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Old July 25th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #1
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Reasons why a twin complex is better than 1 world trade center

Note: Save your "it's never gonna happen" bullshit, this thread is made for discussion. If you're not gonna contribute to the topic, save your post for another thread.



1. Twin Buildings are efficient, less construction space in exchange of huge office space skyscrapers as opposed to a crowded area of less tall towers.



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Old July 25th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #2
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They set a better focal point on the skyline...?
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Old July 25th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #3
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True, they definitely add to the uniqueness factor
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As opposed to
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Old July 25th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #4
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but 2WTC is the most unique tower out of the complex =(
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Old July 25th, 2012, 08:31 PM   #5
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True, they definitely add to the uniqueness factor
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As opposed to
I like the twin tower version better!
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Old July 25th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #6
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As much as I liked the original towers, they are pretty much useless right now. Doubling a tower seems cheap to me and it's just a cheap shot at trying to be different than the rest. As we can see in the renders above, current buildings benefit nothing from being doubled.
It worked a few times (Petronas being the last good example) but right now it's nothing too good to be proud of.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #7
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As much as I liked the original towers, they are pretty much useless right now.
Way to completely ignore my first request for this thread.


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Doubling a tower seems cheap to me and it's just a cheap shot at trying to be different than the rest. As we can see in the renders above, current buildings benefit nothing from being doubled.
It worked a few times (Petronas being the last good example) but right now it's nothing too good to be proud of.
Way to completely ignore my second request for this thread.

It's like people don't take the time to read anymore.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #8
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Twins are much easier to identify as a complex.

A non-WTC example:

A lone building can be mistaken for others, and they are harder to identify.
(Eg. IBM Building, Chicago, looks like several other buildings in the city)


But many people can easily identify these buildings as LA's City National Plaza, since identical towers right next to each other are rarer and draw more attention.


Just a suggestion, but maybe you don't have to limit this thread to the WTC.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 03:31 AM   #9
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Those are gorgeous, it also looks neat and organized. And this topic isn't solely about the WTC, but twin structures in General. The initial comparison being the new WTC.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 04:59 AM   #10
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1. Twin Buildings are efficient, less construction space in exchange of huge office space skyscrapers as opposed to a crowded area of less tall towers.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 05:45 AM   #11
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Does the logic of two skyscrapers taking less space than 4 get to you?
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Old July 26th, 2012, 06:31 AM   #12
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I normally don't like twins, but I did like the WTC especially because of the antenna on 1WTC. They were so powerful, but elegant. Minimalist.

However, I am completely fine with the new WTC, as I love the difference in the spires on each building. 1WTC has a tall, centered spire. 2WTC has the most unique spire ever: 2 short, 45 degree angled connecting spires. Only thing even similar is Bank of China Tower, if you take off the tallest vertical sections. 3WTC has four short corner spires, and 4WTC has no spire.

Anyhow, I would take either design any day of the week.

Another one to add to the list: Twins put a focal point on the architectural style of the time period they were built in.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 06:41 AM   #13
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Another good reason for twins... sometimes one tower can look ugly, but if paired with a twin, they complement each other and end up looking great.
Twin complexes are some of my favourites.

Don't know if this happens to anyone else, but when I see twin buildings, I sometimes get shivers, especially if they're boxy. They stand like two massive, strong guardians and bring about an awe-inspiring feeling that no lone building can produce. One of the reasons why NYC's twin WTC were some of my favourite buildings of all time.

And I agree, the complex in LA is beautiful.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 07:14 AM   #14
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I normally don't like twins, but I did like the WTC especially because of the antenna on 1WTC. They were so powerful, but elegant. Minimalist.
That is what i loved about the old twins, despite being humongous buildings, they looked neat. I don't necessarily dislike the new complex, but i do think it looks quite messy and all over the place.
I understand why some find it attractive but to me, there's no symmetry in it.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 08:32 AM   #15
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The only real rational advantage of a twin complex, is probably that two identical towers are easier and cheaper to design and to build than building two different towers.
(Comparing twin towers to just one single possibly bigger and taller tower usually doesn't really make to much sense. The only really useful comparison is comparing two more or less identical twin towers to two different and unique towers. The question what is generally better, one single skyscraper or two smaller ones, can not really be answered generally and simply depend on individal and local aspects which differ from case to case.)

Architectural advantages may of course be that identical design shows that the two towers are belonging together and make them appear as one complex optically. And some twin complexes really look nice.

My favorite twin complex is one whicht doesn't really appear to look all that much like one, since the two towers don'tquite look like having an identical shape from most view angles, the Deutsche Bank Towers in Frankfurt.

Here a few links to pictures in case you don't know the building:
http://www.adpic.de/data/picture/det...furt_80324.jpg

http://www.banklupe.de/news/wp-conte...-bieter-an.jpg

Only when the complex is being viewed from above does it really get obvious, that the two towers do indeed have an identical footprint:
http://www.nordpool-media.com/images...lo00968311.jpg
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Old July 26th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #16
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Way to completely ignore my first request for this thread.




Way to completely ignore my second request for this thread.

It's like people don't take the time to read anymore.
Oh then you just cut off your request "this thread is made for discussion".
I would gladly speak with some people that actually are open for discussion. I gave my reasons as to why it's not a good solution anymore. Looks like it's an old russian exam : "who was the best president and why is it Putin ?"
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Old July 26th, 2012, 02:16 PM   #17
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If there would be a twin version of 1 WTC I think that one should have a totally flat roof.
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Old July 26th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #18
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Way to completely ignore my first request for this thread.




Way to completely ignore my second request for this thread.

It's like people don't take the time to read anymore.
What is the point of asking for open discussion when you firstly tell everyone they are not allowed to discuss what you don't agree with?
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Maybe he's a Republican?
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Certainly the old twins used to be a New York City's icon, I even could say that were actually an american icon, have a new twins would be the chance to increase this landmark as a new icon, and IMO, a truly sign of a fully recovery from those dark days in 2001... and let's be honest, Manhattan's skyline it's not the same without the twins, beyond the economic factor or convinience of two towers, we need to think about what means this place for everybody
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