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Old July 26th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #21
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What is the point of asking for open discussion when you firstly tell everyone they are not allowed to discuss what you don't agree with?
This is what he meant: What are the advantages of twin complexes, in general, as opposed to single or non-twin complexes? Or why aren't they advantageous? This isn't a Twin Towers vs 1WTC thread. He merely used them as the initial comparison, as an example. The thread title can be misleading.
Someone should change the thread title to Reasons why a twin complex is better than a non-twin complex

OR: Which is better, a twin complex, or a non-twin complex? to allow for more interesting discussion.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 09:15 AM   #22
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Oh then you just cut off your request "this thread is made for discussion".
I would gladly speak with some people that actually are open for discussion. I gave my reasons as to why it's not a good solution anymore. Looks like it's an old russian exam : "who was the best president and why is it Putin ?"
No. This thread was made to discuss why twin complexes are better than single towers not why they're worse or how it's useless because then it wouldn't be on topic. If you want to discuss why they're worse or useless, make a thread about it.


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The point is to remain on topic, read above.


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Certainly the old twins used to be a New York City's icon, I even could say that were actually an american icon, have a new twins would be the chance to increase this landmark as a new icon, and IMO, a truly sign of a fully recovery from those dark days in 2001... and let's be honest, Manhattan's skyline it's not the same without the twins, beyond the economic factor or convinience of two towers, we need to think about what means this place for everybody
I agree, i was super surprised when they announced they weren't going for a twin tower complex seeing how that became such a powerful american symbol over the years. Standing tall and united etc
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Old July 27th, 2012, 12:30 PM   #23
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As per my opinion, As much as I liked the original towers, they are pretty much useless right now. Doubling a tower seems cheap to me and it's just a cheap shot at trying to be different than the rest. As we can see in the renders above, current buildings benefit nothing from being doubled.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 09:38 PM   #24
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As per my opinion, As much as I liked the original towers, they are pretty much useless right now. Doubling a tower seems cheap to me and it's just a cheap shot at trying to be different than the rest. As we can see in the renders above, current buildings benefit nothing from being doubled.
Why did you copy my post ?
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Old July 27th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #25
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That profile is most likely a robot... ignore it.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #26
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There is beauty in the art of repetition... and the Twin Towers did show that. I agree that the different tower designs all linked together does not quite do it justice.

In Detroit they planned a Hotel Tower and 4 matching office buildings that today is the GM World HQ... also known as Renaissance Center. There's a certain beauty to having 4 matching towers as part of the city's downtown centerpiece....

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Old July 27th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #27
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im glad there not building twins because who wants to look at that and remember what happened, thats not to say that i wouldnt mind seeing 2 tall twins popping up somewhere else in nyc, but i just think for that certain area of land it was good that they changed it and did not make 2 new twins
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Old July 28th, 2012, 05:27 AM   #28
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Your thread title says:

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No. This thread was made to discuss why twin complexes are better than single towers
So is this thread is really about the advantages of twin towered complexes vs single towers in general, or is it about why twin towered complexes are better than 1 WTC?

You keep contradicting yourself.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 05:37 AM   #29
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I explained it in my post above...
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Old July 28th, 2012, 06:37 AM   #30
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It's a question to the thread starter, not to you.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 07:00 AM   #31
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Where do you think I got my answer from?

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Those are gorgeous, it also looks neat and organized. And this topic isn't solely about the WTC, but twin structures in General. The initial comparison being the new WTC.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #32
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Wand another one: We wouldn't have to worry about finding more tenants. We'd only need half.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #33
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Your thread title says:



Then you say:



So is this thread is really about the advantages of twin towered complexes vs single towers in general, or is it about why twin towered complexes are better than 1 WTC?

You keep contradicting yourself.
Isn't the new WTC made up of 5 single towers? I don't see why this is so hard to understand for some of you, the WTC in NY was the only complex i could've used as an example for this thread seeing how the old was Twin towered and the new isn't. However, this thread isn't solely about the WTC, just twin towered complexes in general vs Single towers. Maybe i'm typing in Chinese without realizing it.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #34
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The old twins were well designed, but they were an eyesore in the skyline. Most people never liked them. The new situation looks more appealing. New York is doing a great job by redevelop the area instead of cloning the originals.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 12:41 PM   #35
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They were actually pretty much loved and praised not only in NYC or America, but all over the world.
And they weren't eye sore imo, they gave the skyline an identity.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 04:46 PM   #36
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They were some of the most beautiful buildings in the world and nothing can replace them. I would have thought this even before 9/11. Perfect design, (I love minimalism), and perfect location.
But seriously, this thread isn't about the NYC twin towers.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 08:47 PM   #37
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Most people never liked them.
Yeah, no, bullshit. Something tells me you've never been to New York.

Most people on this forum never liked them. They are very much alive, to this day, throughout the city, and are still well-loved and missed.


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Old July 28th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #38
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I wouldn't say they were "well loved" at all, they were just identified with New York. Hence why they're on that old company logo you posted.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 09:36 PM   #39
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As per my opinion, As much as I liked the original towers, they are pretty much useless right now. Doubling a tower seems cheap to me and it's just a cheap shot at trying to be different than the rest. As we can see in the renders above, current buildings benefit nothing from being doubled.
I think he was symbolically referring to his closing statement. In his opinion, there's no benefit of a tower being doubled, so he posted it twice to show there's no benefit from repeating something as well in an attempt to make a point.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #40
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Nice theory...but it's just a spam-bot Nothing symbolic.
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