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Old November 15th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #221
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I've never been interested in post-Soviet Russian history. Soviet history was interesting but when I look at Moscow, I can't help but feel sorry for the city. That downtown screams of faux-modernism. It's a architectural masquerade hiding the deep scars of Russian history, an overbearing statist petrostate, a population still struggling with high rates of alcoholism and depression and a quasi-anarchic state where mob mentality and racist attacks are perfectly okay so long as the perpetrators support United Russia and the rubber-stamp Duma. To me that skyline is a slap in the face to the Russian people. It's a 21st century Potemkin village in a rather ironic, poetic way. So when I look at that skyline I think of everything it could represent and when you see instead look at the street level you find that the City of Capital LED and Mercury City Tower are just appendages of a system where the vast majority of people still live in poverty and only the precious oligarchs are allowed to feast on the country's squandered potential. But I've gone all deep and philosophical so I apologize lol Although I will say if Russia became more like Canada, the world would be a much safer place.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying actually. Russia is a mess. Maybe instead of becoming more like Canada, they've decided to move here instead. 10 years ago I didn't meet any, now I meet them left right and centre. Canada's almost a perfect fit for them: America, but northern like back home.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #222
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I've never been interested in post-Soviet Russian history. Soviet history was interesting but when I look at Moscow, I can't help but feel sorry for the city. That downtown screams of faux-modernism. It's a architectural masquerade hiding the deep scars of Russian history, an overbearing statist petrostate, a population still struggling with high rates of alcoholism and depression and a quasi-anarchic state where mob mentality and racist attacks are perfectly okay so long as the perpetrators support United Russia and the rubber-stamp Duma. To me that skyline is a slap in the face to the Russian people. It's a 21st century Potemkin village in a rather ironic, poetic way. So when I look at that skyline I think of everything it could represent and when you see instead look at the street level you find that the City of Capital LED and Mercury City Tower are just appendages of a system where the vast majority of people still live in poverty and only the precious oligarchs are allowed to feast on the country's squandered potential. But I've gone all deep and philosophical so I apologize lol Although I will say if Russia became more like Canada, the world would be a much safer place.
this is so funny. I think that you are watching the news too much. you do not have any idea of ​​the real situation in Russia. you piled a bunch of depressive information in real Moscow is much more positive. lived here a lot of smart and talented people. We often criticize their government, but that in order to make it work better.
MIBC is not just the native character of wealth, it is very popular for office and residential units. all built private development companies
Russia has long been in deep crisis after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but has recovered and continues to develop
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Old November 15th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #223
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Old November 15th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #224
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #226
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Moscow's skyline is beeeeeaaauuuuttiiifuuuuul..! one of my top 10 skylines in the world
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Old November 16th, 2012, 09:10 AM   #228
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It's quite something. Makes me sad that College Park in Toronto was never completed. It likely would have looked similar to that. Maybe one day they will get around to finishing it.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #230
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It's quite something. Makes me sad that College Park in Toronto was never completed. It likely would have looked similar to that. Maybe one day they will get around to finishing it.
really pity
in Moscow were still many unfinished towers. I'd love to see them now



Palace of the Soviets 420 or 500 m




Palace of the Soviets in the episodes of Russian film "Spy" (2012) - fictional alternate history:





Zaryadye building 285m


This building was built to the 15th floor, when Stalin died. After it began to dismantle by order of Khrushchev

I really want to see this buildings on the skyline

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Old November 17th, 2012, 12:19 AM   #232
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Those old Soviet proposals were great. Not a fan of the Stalin statue on the top of the 2nd last one though. It would look better with something else on top.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 01:17 AM   #233
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I don't see a Stalin statue. You mean Lenin?
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Those old Soviet proposals were great. Not a fan of the Stalin statue on the top of the 2nd last one though. It would look better with something else on top.


That was Lenin not Stalin! Physically, Lenin looks so different from Stalin (Lenin was bald while stalin was not ), how could you fail to tell one from the other!

Lenin and Stalin's portraits/posters are still all over the place today in Chinese Classrooms across the country, the phenomenon which you couldn't find in Russian society for decades since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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In 1924, Vladimir Lenin's death and the construction of the temporary Lenin's Mausoleum initiated a national campaign to build Lenin memorials across the country. Victor Balikhin, a graduate student at VKhUTEMAS, proposed to install Lenin's memorial on top of a Comintern building, on the site of Christ the Savior Cathedral. "Arc lamps will flood the villages, towns, parks and squares, calling everyone to honor Lenin even at night..."[3] Balikhin's concept, forgotten for a while, emerged later in Boris Iofan's design.
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It was the foreigner Brasini who literally expressed the idea of "Lenin atop the skyscraper" in the most clear form.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 01:29 AM   #235
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What else can you expect from yankees, my friend ? Tsss-.-
In Europe they would laugh at him at least 3 minutes.

Btw, there are still many Lenin statues in Russia and very few Stalin statues.
Just 2 days ago I saw a Stalin portrait in a military school for girls(TV).




A 400m version would be great.
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In Europe they would laugh at him at least 3 minutes.
Ooops, yes Lenin. I obviously didn't look too closely. I used to get Laurier and MacDonald mixed up all the time. Thank god for $5 bills. I'm sure you know which one is which.

Btw, I'm originally from Europe and now Canadian... just like my location suggests. Yankees don't have 'provinces', but I promise not to laugh at you for 3 minutes.
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Toronto undoubtedly belongs to the top 10...
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