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Old November 11th, 2012, 06:09 AM   #61
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will the workers die of radiation sickness eventually?
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Old November 11th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #62
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: radioactivity is not a gas and can very from minute quantities to lethal doses within a few meters, which means you can be fine at some place, and in danger a few steps further.
The operating ground was decontaminated a long time ago and poses no health risk to the workers. Yet the radiations increases quite a lot as they get further from the ground, so most of the potentially dangerous work will be operated by cranes or heavy machinery.

As for the new confinement, every operation to be done inside of it will be either remote controlled or automated.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #63
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Is that why the liquidators died because they were above the reactor
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Old November 11th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #64
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The liquidators were exposed to vast amounts of decaying matter, including some of the most potent and short lived radioisotopes such as xenon or lithium 131, which are not around anymore.
The explosion also spilled vast amounts of matter around the reactor and the facilities, so there was no easy way to avoid radioactivity (understand: no safe place), especially working in a hurry like they had to do.
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Old November 16th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #65
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Old November 25th, 2012, 11:42 AM   #66
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We have liftoff! 5300 tonnes lifted at 22m high.

ChNPP hasn't posted its weekly update yet, but I'm sure they'll have some pictures of the lifting soon.

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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #67
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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #68
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Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 08:23 PM   #69
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Old November 26th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #70
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #71
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Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.
Why?
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #72
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Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.
Do you really think, spending money, on saving the enviroment from radiation, is a waste of money?

If so, please elaborate yourself.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM   #73
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Buddy I don't know what's your job, what education you have but be more accurate when you give analysis to people over here: the soil is still contaminated and can't be decontaminated,there is radioactivity especially in the iron and steel materials around the plant, liquidators who died were few compared to the whole number and they died few years after the accident.
Only the firemen died in the fire because they hadn't the necessary equipment to extinguish the fire in the turbine hall, near the reactors.
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Short answer: no.

Long answer: radioactivity is not a gas and can very from minute quantities to lethal doses within a few meters, which means you can be fine at some place, and in danger a few steps further.
The operating ground was decontaminated a long time ago and poses no health risk to the workers. Yet the radiations increases quite a lot as they get further from the ground, so most of the potentially dangerous work will be operated by cranes or heavy machinery.

As for the new confinement, every operation to be done inside of it will be either remote controlled or automated.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #74
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #75
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What a waste of money. This is 25 years too late.
So It's a waste of money to care about people's health? And no it's not 25 years too late...they immediately built a sarcophagus after the disaster, but are now building a newer, better, one.

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The best plan of action would be to launch all of this radioactive waste at Chernobyl into space and be done with it.
You do realize that doing such a thing would be unprecedented in terms of the scale of operations needed to accomplish it (it would require a LOT of rockets to be launched), and would be far, far, more expensive than just building a new sarcophagus right? You're talking about launching thousands of tons of contaminated rubble into space, instead of just burying it, which has proven to work fine. Not to mention that if something went wrong, radioactive debris would end up raining from the sky.

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They should just nuke the entire site and be done with it.
Yes, let's nuke the nuclear contamination zone! That would help a lot! LOL, you're either amazingly stupid, or you're trolling.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #76
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I see no real point to this. All the ground around it is still contaminated, and will be so for a very long time. Just abandon the whole area already... Its not like it will be safe to live there in your lifetime anyway.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:08 PM   #77
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There's a lot of contaminated dust inside the old sarcophagus, and the structure itself is on a brink of collapse. So, any damage to the sacrophagus would create emissions going far beyond the exclusion zone.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:46 AM   #78
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There's a lot of contaminated dust inside the old sarcophagus, and the structure itself is on a brink of collapse. So, any damage to the sacrophagus would create emissions going far beyond the exclusion zone.
So your telling me people are so dumb that they cant repair the old sarcophagus, and instead build a sarcophagus for a sarcophagus?
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Old November 29th, 2012, 03:02 AM   #79
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It's like trying to repair a rusty, deteriorating junky car left in a field for nearly 25 years, but this time it's in a highly radioactive zone.
This new one will last much longer than the old one ever would have.
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Old November 29th, 2012, 04:39 AM   #80
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It's like trying to repair a rusty, deteriorating junky car left in a field for nearly 25 years, but this time it's in a highly radioactive zone.
This new one will last much longer than the old one ever would have.
Why not be smart and hire someone to check it once a year so it doesnt get rusty? Maybe repaint it every few years too? No? Much less expensive than this massive project.
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