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Old March 1st, 2013, 11:38 AM   #101
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Weekly update from ChNPP.


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Old March 15th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #102
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Update from ChNPP. Currently working on cladding (inner and outter), arch steel (for second lift), lifting towers, etc.


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Old March 22nd, 2013, 03:21 PM   #103
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Weekly update from ChNPP.


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Old April 3rd, 2013, 05:10 PM   #104
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Update from ChNPP.

We can clearly see the supports for the internal crane beams. Most of the lifting towers are in place for the next lift.

Key numbers :
- 20% of the steel for next lift is installed
- 37% of outer cladding before next lift is installed


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Old April 3rd, 2013, 07:57 PM   #105
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Thanks for the updates. This is one of the coolest projects currently under construction simply because of how they addressed solving the problem of building the containment structure in a dangerous environment.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 04:42 PM   #106
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Another update from ChNPP.

Outer cladding is getting more and more visible.

Key numbers :
- 27% of the steel for next lift is installed
- 40% of outer cladding before next lift is installed


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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #107
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #108
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OFF TOPIC: Are there news for such a structure at the Fukushima power plant?

(Sorry for the off topic question, but i didnīt know where to post it.)
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #109
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ok so exactly what is the purpose of this?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #110
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OFF TOPIC: Are there news for such a structure at the Fukushima power plant?
Yes, but not in the same scale. Obviously, they have some more pressing issues to solve before thinking of a long term solution to the problem. And they don't really like to communicate much about what's happening over there, much like the Chernobyl accident.

But they intend to cover each one of the 4 damaged reactors with some kind of structure to limit radiation release. You can see it here under construction at unit 1. It's been there for quite some time, but I haven't heard any news about the 3 other reactors, or any other long term plan (this solution isn't very effective). But like I said, they don't talk much, and I didn't search much either.

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ok so exactly what is the purpose of this?
Basically, the old sarcophagus is... well, old, and threatening to collapse. The goal of the new one is to provide a safe confinement (hence its name) for at least the next hundred years, to dismantle the current sarcophagus and to remove as much radioactive material as possible.

For more information, you can read through the whole thread.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 01:48 AM   #111
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Basically, the old sarcophagus is... well, old, and threatening to collapse. The goal of the new one is to provide a safe confinement (hence its name) for at least the next hundred years, to dismantle the current sarcophagus and to remove as much radioactive material as possible.

For more information, you can read through the whole thread.
why not bulldoze down the whole plant..
and remove everything ...

are there plans to repopulate Pripyat again?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:27 AM   #112
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why not bulldoze down the whole plant..
and remove everything ...

are there plans to repopulate Pripyat again?
Because you cannot simply drive a bulldozer into it!! Everything there is highly contaminated and will remain so for 100s of years. You have to remember that bits of radioactive fuel were spat out into the air and around the plant. Additional the levels change so randomly. Inside the reactor is wide open the lid was blown off. You see it should be |_| but the force of the explosion moved it to |/|.

Also how could you?! During the initial clean up the radiation was too high for un manned robots and the men that had to go are still suffering from it. The method they have chosen is the best as ther is minimal human contact with the actual building.

I think they were abandoned years ago. I like Pripyat though, it's frozen in time. It'd make an excellent museum of life in the Eastern Bloc, if it weren't so radioactive..!
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Old April 9th, 2013, 06:09 PM   #113
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Yes, but not in the same scale. Obviously, they have some more pressing issues to solve before thinking of a long term solution to the problem. And they don't really like to communicate much about what's happening over there, much like the Chernobyl accident.
Not as much of a need to do so at Fukushima where there was a meltdown but there was no containment vessel breach. This is in comparison to Chernobyl where the whole damn reactor blew up and the Soviets didn't think a containment vessel was necessary.

Long-term containment and storage is still required at Fukushima but this won't require the elaborate nature of the New Safe Confinement to do so and will likely be done concurrent with a decommissioning program. The New Safe Confinement at Chernobyl may actually allow for decommissioning to occur there as well, but that is decades out. First thing is to make sure that the reactor and emergency sarcophagus is safely contained.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #114
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great project, nice progress so far. love the cladding.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 04:29 PM   #115
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Weekly update from ChNPP.

Nice close-up on cladding this week, and we also see supports for lateral cladding being set up.

Key numbers :
- 35% of the steel for next lift is installed
- 43% of outer cladding before next lift is installed


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Old April 21st, 2013, 11:32 PM   #116
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Weekly update from ChNPP.

Key numbers :
- 50% of the steel for next lift is installed (i.e. south side should be done)
- 46% of outer cladding before next lift is installed


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Old April 21st, 2013, 11:52 PM   #117
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How did they get past the Brain Scorcher? ........ just kidding

But I do have a question. How tall is the tallest chimney of the power plant? In the SSC diagrams it lists the roof of the NPP as being 78 meters, but the drawing shows the roof to be only 56 meters and the pinnacle of the tallest chimney to be 84 meters. But the render on the first page of this thread shows the chimney being taller than this cover construction, which is 108 meters tall, so I am now confused, does anybody have exact height figures for the NPP?
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 12:30 AM   #118
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I don't think that the chimney is part of the destroyed reactor complex? I think it's to do with cooling and the new confinement just covers the reactor? Someone came slain this better than I but this is just my understanding!
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 12:35 AM   #119
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NSC internal height: 92.5m
NSC external height: 108.3m
Old Ventilation Stack height: ~150m
New Ventilation Stack height: ~125m

The new ventilation stack was erected at the end of 2011. The old one will be dismantled "by 2015", since it's on the way of the NSC. The new one has been placed just behind the final location of the NSC, so even though it is taller than the NSC, it's not an issue.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 08:15 PM   #120
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Thanks for the info. I am very interested in Chernobyl and the zone arround it

So is the SSP diagram below wrong only in the height of the chimneys, or is it wrong in the heights of the building themselves too? Also, are the heights of the DUGA array and the tallest buildings in Pripyat accurate in this diagram?

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