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Old August 13th, 2013, 06:05 PM   #41
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I am glad to hear those KCK progressives lured the NASCAR track, probably using lots of taxpayer money to pay for it but without asking the taxpayers if they could do so. How enlightened of them.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 02:58 AM   #42
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City officials unveiled renderings of what the streetcars will look like, although the actual colors have not yet been chosen.

The vehicle of choice is the URBOS 3 Platform Vehicle, built by CAF, and manufactured in Elmira, New York. CAF has extensive rail transit experience in both the U.S. and Europe.



Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/04...#storylink=cpy
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Old October 5th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #43
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Excellent. I like the look of the Urbos 3. I get the "made in America" thing, but I am not really a fan of the Skoda/United Streetcars.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #44
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KC has done one thing right and that is improve the bus system so connectivity with the streetcar is enhanced. The MAX BRT offers far superior service to what KC citizens are use to and the larger the system the much higher the ridership.

There is no point of building a streetcar for transit when getting to the line requires a a long wait for a bus, people won't do it. The MAX system greatly improves that so the line can be part of an effective transit system in the future as opposed to just a tourist line or a novelty that people will ride once and then never again.
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Old October 5th, 2013, 10:18 PM   #45
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KC has done one thing right and that is improve the bus system so connectivity with the streetcar is enhanced. The MAX BRT offers far superior service to what KC citizens are use to and the larger the system the much higher the ridership.

There is no point of building a streetcar for transit when getting to the line requires a a long wait for a bus, people won't do it. The MAX system greatly improves that so the line can be part of an effective transit system in the future as opposed to just a tourist line or a novelty that people will ride once and then never again.
There are 3 MAX lines now that will connect to this streetcar route. Main St MAX, Troost MAX, and the State Ave Connex. (maps below)

Also, it looks like the commuter rail plans want to use 3rd/grand(on the streetcar route) as its hub. So the streetcar will be connected to several suburbs, the airport, and the NFL/MLB stadiums through that in a few years hopefully. Union Station is also on the streetcar route and the communter rail plan wants to use it as a hub but due to the major cost difference they will most likely use 3rd/grand ave.
http://www.examiner.net/article/2013...0?refresh=true
Commuter rail is still having disputes with the freight rail owners over using their tracks
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascit...l-dispute.html



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When does State Avenue Connex open?
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Building BRT into a comprehensive system is good for the streetcar as it ensures proper connectivity and is also good because it ensures that the streetcar won't bleed operational funding from the bus network which is the backbone of the system.
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Old October 12th, 2013, 03:18 AM   #48
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Building BRT into a comprehensive system is good for the streetcar as it ensures proper connectivity and is also good because it ensures that the streetcar won't bleed operational funding from the bus network which is the backbone of the system.
Indeed. Not a bad system for the money.
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Old November 16th, 2013, 01:41 AM   #49
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the first tracks have been laid

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Old January 18th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #50
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they are planning to hold an election later this year to expand the taxing district to fund the following proposed lines from the starter line. The proposed district is huge and includes a large industrial area by the river, the pro sports stadiums, and a mall at the SW corner so this area should generate a lot of tax revenue from areas that won't actually be getting a line. (edit: sorry if the picture is too large)

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Old February 27th, 2014, 03:14 AM   #51
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Jackson County takes big step toward commuter rail with option to buy Union Pacific tracks

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/24...-big-step.html

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the upcoming election reduced the size of the taxing district and removed the southern most extension from the plan due to push back from the southern neighborhoods to improve the odds of the tax passing. The newest plan released earlier this week: If you look 2 posts up you can see the changes.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 02:01 AM   #53
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City officials unveiled renderings of what the streetcars will look like, although the actual colors have not yet been chosen.

The vehicle of choice is the URBOS 3 Platform Vehicle, built by CAF, and manufactured in Elmira, New York. CAF has extensive rail transit experience in both the U.S. and Europe.


Great choice indeed. Urbos looks really good...
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Old April 19th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #54
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update video, shows arrival of rails and utility relocation work along streetcar route.

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Old May 19th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #55
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I made a metro/subway style map for KC, to show the BRT lines with the future Streetcar and commuter rail lines together.
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Old May 19th, 2014, 06:30 AM   #56
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Nice job. I'm glad KC is moving forward. One of my favorite cities in the Heartland.
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There will be both a streetcar and a bus rapid transit system on main street? Won't that hurt the streetcar? Makes it rather useless.
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There will be both a streetcar and a bus rapid transit system on main street? Won't that hurt the streetcar? Makes it rather useless.
If they get the streetcar extension built down to the plaza, I think they might move the MAX buses over to Broadway street.
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That's worrisome. Extensions will occur based on the level of success of the streetcar, no? Considering it will compete with a bus rapid transit system that is already established and much extensive (it already goes to the plaza), I question whether the streetcar will be successful after all.
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That's worrisome. Extensions will occur based on the level of success of the streetcar, no? Considering it will compete with a bus rapid transit system that is already established and much extensive (it already goes to the plaza), I question whether the streetcar will be successful after all.
It will be built if the sales tax district expansion passes in a election later this year. I think it will pass.
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