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Old May 10th, 2016, 04:40 PM   #101
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Good luck KC. I hope it does well (and can extend south)
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Old May 12th, 2016, 07:26 PM   #102
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At least they are trying. With the Plaza connected it will be good corridor already. But of course, nothing beats having a major university campus connected with downtown. The first step is done though and it looks good so far.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 03:58 PM   #103
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Old May 15th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #104
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Americans do not have idea hot tobuild modern tram networks, they build it like it is a car.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 05:29 AM   #105
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Well hopefully this and other Streetcars being built will help pave the way for larger public transit systems...
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Old May 16th, 2016, 06:53 AM   #106
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Old May 16th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #107
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Americans do not have idea hot tobuild modern tram networks, they build it like it is a car.
Yes, unfortunately these downtown streetcar schemes often run at very low speeds on the streets(due to auto traffic, stoplights, etc.), but as is often the case in N. America, perhaps "something is better than nothing", especially if it has the capability to be expanded, or to induce building of other, more useful, grade separated or reserved ROW lines.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 11:14 AM   #108
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The vast majority of new streetcar lines in the US have precious little to do with transit planning but are rather built for city pride {look mom I have a streetcar now} or for political ribbon cutting ceremonies.

None of the US streetcar lines built in the US in the last 30 years have the ridership numbers that a decent bus service wouldn't carry but, unfortunately for the tax payers and transit users, buses aren't as sexy.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 03:08 PM   #109
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Busses don't have the advantage of route inflexibility.

Yes, I deliberately call that an advantage. Of couse, this alone doesn't suffice. Tram lines have to fit well into the network and connect central locations where people want to go with surrounding areas and with important PT hubs.

I do agree however that most tram lines in the US don't look like an efficient transit option.
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will the streetcar remain free forever or will there be a fee after some time like in Atlanta?
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I don't know if it will "remain free forever", but I have a feeling the taxpayers will be paying for it for some time.

That said, I am not sure if this one is as much of a snafu as the one in DC or Atlanta.
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Such a shame cities dont focus on actual metro systems again Like some did a few decades ago.
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 07:21 PM   #113
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Some Kansas City Streetcar Photos from Peter Ehrlich


KANSAS CITY--803 at Main/14th Street IB
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KANSAS CITY--803 at Main/12th Street IB
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KANSAS CITY--804 lv City Market IB
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KANSAS CITY--804 at Main/8th Street IB
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KANSAS CITY--802 at River Market West OB
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KANSAS CITY--802 at Main/9th Street IB
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KANSAS CITY--802 (lvg), 804 at Union Station
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KANSAS CITY--802 appr City Market IB
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Old May 23rd, 2016, 08:42 PM   #114
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Such a shame cities dont focus on actual metro systems again Like some did a few decades ago.
Many of the cities are just not dense, big or rich enough. A light rail system (a streetcar is downgraded light rail) can serve a big city perfectly fine. You just have to figure out how. The formula for success seems to be: reliable, fast, inexpensive, comfortable, convenient.

The KC Streetcar, in my opinion, only ticks two boxes (inexpensive and comfortable). Give it its own lanes (reliable, fast) and extend the system appropriately (convenient), and it could very well turn more successful.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 07:21 AM   #115
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Some Kansas City Streetcar Photos from Peter Ehrlich


KANSAS CITY--802, 804 at Union Station
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KANSAS CITY--802 at Delaware/Independence OB
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KANSAS CITY--802 appr Crossroads Stop IB
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KANSAS CITY--802 at Main/7th Street OB
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KANSAS CITY--803 at Delaware/Independence IB
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 01:04 AM   #116
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Streetcar mishaps, weather don't derail ridership

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascit...ip-update.html

It's proving to be very popular on weekends. Over 10,000 riders for 4 straight Saturdays. And Sunday ridership has increased for 4 straight Sundays.

6,683 daily average so far, projected daily ridership was 2,700. I think we can declare this a success ridership wise.

Route design, I think was horrible. Too much parking along the route, the streetlights are timed terribly, and being in traffic, make the route very slow. Also, if you have to wait 5-15 minutes for the next train, then it's just as fast to walk if you are only going a few stations.

I think it's a good route for getting people around downtown, but if they expand the system, it needs to be more "light rail" design with it's own lane.
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New bus 495 launches 2016.07.05.

http://ridekc.org/news/joco_expansion

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Weekends are still the busiest days but weekday ridership improved during the 2nd month of operation.




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Impressive ridership stats , has there been any talk of expansions?
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"Smart" touchscreen kiosks at every streetcar stop now have streetcar location and arrival times.

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