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Old August 20th, 2012, 03:33 AM   #21
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To me, those quotes are like reports about Big Foot. If there's no clear evidence about ferry, it probably doesn't exist (yet).
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Old August 20th, 2012, 01:14 PM   #22
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To me, those quotes are like reports about Big Foot. If there's no clear evidence about ferry, it probably doesn't exist (yet).
Maybe there are occasional ships that take cars from a country to another but not a regular service.

However I think that a road could be build. The excuse that it would bring Colombian gangster or tropical diseases in Central America is not valid since it's already possible to travel by plane or ship and also the road border would be subjected to immigration checks.

The terrain is harsh but... they also build roads on Alps, Himalaya, Rocky Mountains, Andes, Norway, etc...
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Old August 20th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #23
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Maybe there are occasional ships that take cars from a country to another but not a regular service.

However I think that a road could be build. The excuse that it would bring Colombian gangster or tropical diseases in Central America is not valid since it's already possible to travel by plane or ship and also the road border would be subjected to immigration checks.

The terrain is harsh but... they also build roads on Alps, Himalaya, Rocky Mountains, Andes, Norway, etc...
To build a road there is not impossible, just it hasn't the political consensus cause it's too much expansive. Have been made plans to build a road in past: first in 1971 with the help of United States for the funding, but it was stopped in 1974 after concerns by enviromentalists. Another plan was in 1992, but stopped again in 1994 by United Nations cause of extensive enviromental damage. The Darien Gap is the largest national park in Panama and in Central America, and the colombian side is national park too. Plus, is home of native indians Embera–Wounaan ad Kuna tribes. To destroy all this for to build a road of not-specified benefits to me doesn't seem a good idea.
Rather, a regular ferry service between Colon and Cartagena would be usefull and necessary
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Old August 20th, 2012, 06:17 PM   #24
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Autopista Alberto Motta, Colon. Rainbow City's highway access. On the road sign stands: "Avenida Bolivar" straight ahead, "Autopista Panama-Colon" turn left


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Old August 20th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #25
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Maybe there are occasional ships that take cars from a country to another but not a regular service.
You can ship your car (I don't know exactly from where to where), but on a cargo ship, meaning you have to go separately (by plane or ship), which makes it significantly more expensive.

Btw, nice pics, Satyricon!
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Old August 20th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #26
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Panama-Arraijan Highway, Puente Centenario. In foreground are visible the works for the widening of the Panama Canal
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Old August 20th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #27
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Puente Centenario may be the highest bridge in relation to the clearance for shipping (80 meters). Most sea bridges in Europe have a clearance between 50 and 60 m.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 04:07 AM   #28
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About Puente Centenario, a little bit of historic background: finished to build in 2004, it was opened for traffic in 2005. In 2010 part of the access of the bridge collpsed due heavy rain (or due a bad project?) and only in November 2011 the bridge was came back to be total operative.
I found some pics of the bridge collapsed and of the restoring works.

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Restoring the bridge
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The bridge today


Seems that before the collapse, the access road to the bridge was just lied on the ground surface, whereas now it has abutments inside the ground, at least for one carriageway
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Old August 21st, 2012, 06:04 AM   #29
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Agreed....that bridge was not built properly in the first place. Hopefully no one was hurt during the collapse!
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Road sign in Panama on the Ruta Rambala-Almirante. Guabito is located right before the border with Costa Rica
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Welcome sign in Darien province, on the Pan-American Highway
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Km 222 of the Pan-American Highway, Darien province
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[B]Autopista Alberto Motta Cardoze
Dear Miss or Mr. This is proper panamenia flag

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Old August 25th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #33
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Now is correct, thanks you had notice
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Traffic seems pretty horrible during rush hour.
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Old September 27th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #36
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Cinta Costera, Panama City
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Cinta Costera, Panama City
It looks like a large American city.
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Well, it doesn't look like Panama City, Florida
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Project of the third bridge over the Canal, in Colon province.


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