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Old April 22nd, 2005, 07:45 AM   #221
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Comparing Pudong to Chicago should be prohibited. Just that Oriental Pearl at Pudong makes me wanna puke - it's the most horrible construction ever.
Chicago is classic, its classy, and even if the SWFC (which looks great by the way) is built it will be 1 in a million, because just looking at Shanghai's skyscrapers makes me wanna say: horrible pieces of architecture. Just look at Jin Mao. HORRIBLE.
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 08:42 AM   #222
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^ Comparing Chicago to Pudong should be prohibited. The city that invented the skyscraper is getting its antique ass kicked by a plot of land whose tallest structure 20 years ago was a farm house. Somebody better call the cops, this is murder!
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 11:28 AM   #223
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Huh? Who compared Pudong to Chicago?


SWFC is totally amazing, the most beautiful building on earth!
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Old April 22nd, 2005, 11:30 AM   #224
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Actually Shanghai has a lot of classic and art-deco high-rises in the Bund ;-)
I believe some of them are nearly as old as those in Chicago :-)
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 03:22 AM   #225
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Nice!!! Just wondering but some people are talking about this "modification" of the hole. What modifications did they do? Last I heard was it was going to be a bridge across (sort of like a lookout platform?).
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 03:52 AM   #226
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Nice!!! Just wondering but some people are talking about this "modification" of the hole. What modifications did they do? Last I heard was it was going to be a bridge across (sort of like a lookout platform?).
The hole is no longer a complete circle. The space under the bridge has been filled in.
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 03:55 AM   #227
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The whole is no longer a complete circle. The space under the bridge has been filled in.
Oh! OKay thanks! Regardless of the modification, I still think the building is easily one of most unique and elegant. Full circle or not.
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 12:06 PM   #228
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I have to admit they build this very fast.

Pic from 22th april from avcellvs SSP
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 03:10 PM   #229
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Fast indeed, but the way they're building it seems a little strange... Where is the core ? Won't it use a concrete core ? How will be the structure ?
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Old April 23rd, 2005, 04:24 PM   #230
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That could be the core hole in the middle.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 01:16 AM   #231
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Fast indeed, but the way they're building it seems a little strange... Where is the core ? Won't it use a concrete core ? How will be the structure ?
The circular shape in the middle is the core walls.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 01:32 AM   #232
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^ Comparing Chicago to Pudong should be prohibited. The city that invented the skyscraper is getting its antique ass kicked by a plot of land whose tallest structure 20 years ago was a farm house. Somebody better call the cops, this is murder!
Don't forget Shanghai's colonial-era buildings (there was also one skyscraper built in the early 1980s, I believe). Besides those, the city also has a lot of old midrises from throughout its history.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 03:01 AM   #233
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Don't forget Shanghai's colonial-era buildings (there was also one skyscraper built in the early 1980s, I believe). Besides those, the city also has a lot of old midrises from throughout its history.
Not that many, actually, away from the Bund. Most midrises built during Maoist days are awful enough to deserve construction hell.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 05:31 AM   #234
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Here's an illustrated version of what I was referring to. This is a pic of Pudong in the 1850s:



It looked this way till the late 1980s. It was a FARM, and now it's arguable the most modern skyline around. The "before" and "after" to me is breathtaking.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 05:35 AM   #235
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Ah, oops, you were talking about Pudong. I was thinking of the entire Shanghai city.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 07:19 AM   #236
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When this thing is done, it will be my favorite building in all of China.
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Old April 24th, 2005, 07:52 AM   #237
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I love this building, just beautiful. I really like the original with the full circle. Oh well, I guess we will get use to the new design....

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Old April 24th, 2005, 08:24 AM   #238
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Here's an illustrated version of what I was referring to. This is a pic of Pudong in the 1850s:



It looked this way till the late 1980s. It was a FARM, and now it's arguable the most modern skyline around. The "before" and "after" to me is breathtaking.
That picture is from 1880, I believe. In any case, it is too old to be representative; after all, that was before skyscrapers were invented, and all cities looked flat like that.

Pudong in 1980:



Now there's a shocker.

I watched Pudong's rise to fame, one rebar at a time. I witnessed the construction of Nanpu and Yangpu bridges, the Oriental Pearl, the Bund renovation, among other things. How proud of my city I was, one would never know until he sees his own city rise to glory; every weekend warranted trips to the riverside. Too bad I was too poor as a secondary school student to afford photography, or all of it would be documented.

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Old April 24th, 2005, 09:29 AM   #239
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Pudong in 1980:



Now there's a shocker.
Indeed ! Thank you for showing this
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