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Old February 10th, 2005, 07:33 AM   #61
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Supertall is just a term used for a very tall building. It isn't even an official term in describing tall objects. I agree with HK4Ever in that Burj Dubai and Al Burj are the new benchmark of supertall. If you go with the term "megatall" then what is next and at what point? Ultratall perhaps?

I feel that the Burj Dubai is the new benchmark for SUPERtall. It's height category is SUPERior to that of the 400 to 500m buildings going up. Those are now very tall buildings. If Bionic Tower was built at 1250m then it will then be superior to BD and the like.

The word "super" simply means superior to everything in lesser categories.
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Old February 10th, 2005, 08:01 AM   #62
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This is why I hate Pudong. These would be two great buildings (without the huge base structures), if they were built into the city fabric somehow. They'd look great poking out of a mass of older buildings, right along the street. But instead, they're standing in the Chinese equivalent of a suburban office park, with huge, wide streets that one can't cross on foot separating them from anything else:

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Old February 10th, 2005, 04:02 PM   #63
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You call Lujiazui of Pudong a "suburban"? It's right beside the oldest part of Bund on Puxi, and will be the center of center of Shanghai.

And your picture is way outdated, lol.
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Old February 10th, 2005, 08:20 PM   #64
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You can walk around Lujiazui just fine; I do it all the time, for lunch. :p It is easily accessible via subway and numerous bus routes. Lack of congestion does not necessarily mean it is an "office park."
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Old February 11th, 2005, 12:38 AM   #65
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You can walk around Lujiazui just fine; I do it all the time, for lunch. :p It is easily accessible via subway and numerous bus routes. Lack of congestion does not necessarily mean it is an "office park."
Lack of congestion is actually ideal for a CBD of a large, major city such as Shanghai. If the CBD is accessible via subway and bus routes, then its already efficient.

However, if by lack of congestion gives you the impression that Pudong is an empty business park because it lacks life, then I can somehow understand, but don't forget that Pudong is still under construction and not everything is done.
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Old February 11th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #66
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From that last rendering, SWFC is more than 40m away from Jin Mao.
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Old February 11th, 2005, 02:28 AM   #67
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From that last rendering, SWFC is more than 40m away from Jin Mao.
Perhaps they mean the edge of the SWFC plot?
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Old February 11th, 2005, 02:31 AM   #68
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Lack of congestion is actually ideal for a CBD of a large, major city such as Shanghai. If the CBD is accessible via subway and bus routes, then its already efficient.

However, if by lack of congestion gives you the impression that Pudong is an empty business park because it lacks life, then I can somehow understand, but don't forget that Pudong is still under construction and not everything is done.
One important difference with Puxi is that Pudong's office towers do not have commercial establishments at ground level; that is a primary contributing factor to the area's relative desertion. Also, the area is too large to be walkable as far as sightseeing goes.
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Old February 11th, 2005, 06:02 AM   #69
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One important difference with Puxi is that Pudong's office towers do not have commercial establishments at ground level; that is a primary contributing factor to the area's relative desertion. Also, the area is too large to be walkable as far as sightseeing goes.

Good observation, however, in the future i would think that would change. As Pudong gets more and more developed, Lujiazui will begin to look more like other major CBD's in the world...
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Old February 11th, 2005, 09:06 AM   #70
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Good observation, however, in the future i would think that would change. As Pudong gets more and more developed, Lujiazui will begin to look more like other major CBD's in the world...
The main difference is in the street grid. Lujiazui's CBD is planned such that each building has a vast plaza surrounding it, unlike most CBDs. This both lowers overall density and also prevents street-level activity. Saying Pudong is an office park overlooks Shanghai residents' reliance on public transportation and taxis. Without private automobiles, there will always be people walking around.
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Old February 15th, 2005, 08:14 AM   #71
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when is it gonna be done if ever?
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Old February 15th, 2005, 08:48 AM   #72
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when is it gonna be done if ever?
2008; construction is proceeding normally.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 08:31 AM   #73
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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:07 PM   #74
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From the pics above, work is actually progressing very quick, given that it's been idle for a while. Would probably need another half a year to rise above ground but at this rate, who knows.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:36 PM   #75
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i cant see them it says direct linking prohibited

any solutions?
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Old February 18th, 2005, 07:54 PM   #76
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i cant see them it says direct linking prohibited

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Copy the URL and paste it in your adress bar
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Old February 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM   #77
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Of all the supertalls under construction, this is my favorite one to keep track of. Can't wait till they start to construct around that giant hole at the top. I understand that it is so big, a jumbo jet can fly through it. I wonder what lighting they will install to highlight that hole at night time.
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Old February 21st, 2005, 06:25 AM   #78
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Any pic of the construction by now?
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Old February 25th, 2005, 10:25 AM   #79
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I found these images on a forum. They're up-to-date and exciting.



















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Old February 25th, 2005, 11:02 AM   #80
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That's very interesting stuff......thanks a lot for sharing!
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