DVO | Davao-Francisco Bangoy International Airport

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by psionic

diba 4 times daily and flights ng PAL dito sa davao? bakit this afternoon may dalawang PAL na magkasunod na nagland? una is a A340 then sumunod isang A320 ata or A319?

yung a340 dapat yun dumating ng 1215..delayed flight yun... yung a320 yun yung 3rd flight of the day ng pal..on time yun...

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by psionic

sino na nakalaro ng computer flight simulator na microsoft flight simulator 2004 dito?
sa game lagi na yun ay walang ILS and dvo. by the way, pano pla magpaland ng plane gamit ang VFR approach? alam ko na mag pa land gamit ay ILS approach.?

well maybe the game was made during the time wala pang ils ang dvo...

[bustero]

I was wondering about that ILS I thought they had it and they do!

Good job arnold, I can visualize the taxiway.

xzibit how big is the capacity of the DIA terminal and how much more can they expand it! I don't think the one runway is the problem as Kaitak i think hit nearly 29 -30 million on one runway! But the terminal iba usapan. They only have four gates, are these supplemented by remote? Any idea how long they may need this terminal, in the 90's I remember they said 2015 to 2020 dapat lumipat na sa Tigato is that where the new airport will be. I only ask kasi I want to buy all the land around it for our kimchi concession

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by bustero

I was wondering about that ILS I thought they had it and they do!

Good job arnold, I can visualize the taxiway.

xzibit how big is the capacity of the DIA terminal and how much more can they expand it! I don't think the one runway is the problem as Kaitak i think hit nearly 29 -30 million on one runway! But the terminal iba usapan. They only have four gates, are these supplemented by remote? Any idea how long they may need this terminal, in the 90's I remember they said 2015 to 2020 dapat lumipat na sa Tigato is that where the new airport will be. I only ask kasi I want to buy all the land around it for our kimchi concession

capacity of the terminal is 1.2 million passengers per year up to 2010. but last year 1.13 million passengers passed through it(international and domestic).

yup there are four gates. but there are 6 remote stands plus they can use the old ramp located at the old terminal building. pwede dun about 4 more aircraft. the capacity of the new ramp is 10 aicraft per hour plus the old ramp which is about 4 aircraft per hour also. so al in all 14 aircraft per hour ang capacity ng airport.

the terminal building can still be expanded left and right pero hangang dun nalang.

the runways cannot be expanded anymore kasi there is no more land na. they have to build a new airprt after they have saturated the present one. but i do not see that happening within the next few years. but the land is there...all 2000 hectars of it...

dapat partners tayo dyan sa kimchi concession ha....

[M.Lee]

Originally Posted by xzibit31

yup. the leftmost is used for the smaller type of airplanes like the 737, dc9, a319, a320. most of which are used for domestic services.

the second tube is used for the a330, a340, and 744 of PAL.

the third and fourth tube is used for international services. planes like the a340, 744, and the a388( i think; i wish.hehehehe)

Why do you keep saying 744? All Boeing Aircraft starts and ends with 7's. I wonder what they'll do after they use up 787 and 797? Anyway, it seems that the DAvao Terminal is still going to be 1 tube more than both the new Iloilo and Bacolod Airports. Both will have three tubes only for A330's. Davao's new terminal, in my opinion, still looks better than the two new airport terminals.

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by M.Lee

Why do you keep saying 744? All Boeing start and end in 7's. I wonder what they'll do after they use up 787 and 797? Anyway, it seems that the DAvao Terminal is still going to be 1 tube more than both the new Iloilo and Bacolod Airports. Both will have three tubes only for A330's. Davao's new terminal, in my opinion, still looks better than the two new airport terminals.

744 is short cut for 747-400... a343 is short cut for a340-300...a333 is short cut for a330-300...

[huistenmark]

they are , in fact, IATA codes for aeroplanes.

[M.Lee]

Originally Posted by huistenmark

they are , in fact, IATA codes for aeroplanes.

Okay. Thanks for the explanation.

[bustero]

I guess people are just to lazy to name the whole thing ! 747-400 ekekekek

xzibit ako tiga luto , ikaw taga lako hehe. ON a more serious note, if they can do 14 planes an hour and assuming lang that their all 320's at 180 pax. That's 2520 pax an hour or operating from 6am to 10pm or 16 hour days, 40320 pax a day or 14716800 paz a year. Obviously it's not the runway nor the parking area ramp which is the limitation to the present 1.2 million. Is it the mechanical systems like baggage, ground handling, or jsut space. It's much larger than the manila domestic terminal and if I remember correctly it's over 5 million a year in throughput if not more. Of course the 4 slots are on the other side of the runway so it's not that safe and higher capacity baggage handling systems and more xray and metal detectors will be need but the current physical structure can easily exceed 5 million I think. The only reason I'm thinking along these lines is that for Davao to catch up to Cebu or Manila they'll need greater tourism which is based on increased airlinks, and 1.2 million people a year flying in isn't going to cut it.

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by bustero

I guess people are just to lazy to name the whole thing ! 747-400 ekekekek

xzibit ako tiga luto , ikaw taga lako hehe. ON a more serious note, if they can do 14 planes an hour and assuming lang that their all 320's at 180 pax. That's 2520 pax an hour or operating from 6am to 10pm or 16 hour days, 40320 pax a day or 14716800 paz a year. Obviously it's not the runway nor the parking area ramp which is the limitation to the present 1.2 million. Is it the mechanical systems like baggage, ground handling, or jsut space. It's much larger than the manila domestic terminal and if I remember correctly it's over 5 million a year in throughput if not more. Of course the 4 slots are on the other side of the runway so it's not that safe and higher capacity baggage handling systems and more xray and metal detectors will be need but the current physical structure can easily exceed 5 million I think. The only reason I'm thinking along these lines is that for Davao to catch up to Cebu or Manila they'll need greater tourism which is based on increased airlinks, and 1.2 million people a year flying in isn't going to cut it.

i also agree with you on those points... to give a birds eye view of the facilities inside the terminal...upon entry there is 2 xray machines for domestic and 2 xray machines for international... the check in counters, i am not sure how many for international and domestic..hehehe... before entering the pre-dparture area..there is again 2 xray machines for domestic and 2 xray machines for international. the 4 tubes are interchangable for domestic and international use. on the remote spots there are 3 on the international side and 3 for the domestic side. the other 4 is on the other side of the runway. for arrival domestic has 2 baggage carousels, same with the international.

obvious talaga na kulang ang mga mechanical systems sa airport terminal. that is why an additional $41 million dollars was released for the upgrade of the airport complex.

with regards to the increase airlinks, there are alot of news of airlines who want to come in.

Asiana has just completed its study here. wala pang pinapalabas na results.

Korean Air is putting up a ticketing office here. so i gues the flights arent far behind.

Qantas was rumored to be interested in and Davao-Darwin-Sydney airlink.

Malaysian is considering fly again to davao.

Silk Air already flies 7 times a week to singapore from davao.

Qatar was rumoured to be interested also.

merpati/bouraq flies once a week to manado.

Brunei is also interested.

Cathay will fly here as soon as the taxiway is completed. (arte naman...hehehe)

at marami pang iba na nakalimutan ko...

[kiretoce]

Originally Posted by xzibit31

Cathay will fly here as soon as the taxiway is completed. (arte naman...hehehe)

CX probably does not want the added wear and tear on their aircrafts.

[bustero]

Good to hear on those developments. I think the truly critical airlinks are certain cities in china (hk, guangzhou, shangai, beijing), taiwan (taipei, Kaoshiung), Korea(seoul), and Japan (tokyo, Osaka). Those will really impact on tourism in a big way. If Quantas will do Davao, Darwin, Sydney run that would also be good but I must say it looks remarkably thin as a market). I hope this comes really soon and in the form of LCC's , as it would really help in marketing the place.

IF the Mechanicals are what's limiting capacity that's good because it means that it does not take much time if needed to upgrade, just the money. Are you sure there is no more 100 meters on both sides to make the runway 3200, I thought that was supposed to be the eventual lenght (in fact I thought it already was) so that it would be a full international standard runway (am not sure about this point but I seem to remember the 3200m runway as the min for all present commercial aircraft- air transport professionals please correct me if wrong). Anyway this would mean that the airport could theoretically go up to 5 million pax or more.

Btw what's to become of the old terminal, using it for special arrivals only , sayang naman .

[psionic]

naga serve pa pla ang boraq? kala ko merpati nlng. kasi, im from bangkal area at nakikita ko halos lahat ng planes for final approach at runway five kasi dito sila dumadaan sa area na ito. wala na ako makita na boraq. by the way, ano yang airline na 9 na sa gabi kung dumating?

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by bustero

Good to hear on those developments. I think the truly critical airlinks are certain cities in china (hk, guangzhou, shangai, beijing), taiwan (taipei, Kaoshiung), Korea(seoul), and Japan (tokyo, Osaka). Those will really impact on tourism in a big way. If Quantas will do Davao, Darwin, Sydney run that would also be good but I must say it looks remarkably thin as a market). I hope this comes really soon and in the form of LCC's , as it would really help in marketing the place.

IF the Mechanicals are what's limiting capacity that's good because it means that it does not take much time if needed to upgrade, just the money. Are you sure there is no more 100 meters on both sides to make the runway 3200, I thought that was supposed to be the eventual lenght (in fact I thought it already was) so that it would be a full international standard runway (am not sure about this point but I seem to remember the 3200m runway as the min for all present commercial aircraft- air transport professionals please correct me if wrong). Anyway this would mean that the airport could theoretically go up to 5 million pax or more.

Btw what's to become of the old terminal, using it for special arrivals only , sayang naman .

the old terminal is just sitting there...no plans for it i think...

actually the whole length of the runway here is 3120 meters(end to end). that is for takeoff...which the aircraft can maximize...

for the landing its 3000 meters...its from the threshold to the end of the runway..vice versa..

the runway here is a category 1 full international standard runway. no need yet to upgrade yet to category 2 or 3...

i agree with your destinations. sana mag materialize talaga yun...

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by psionic

naga serve pa pla ang boraq? kala ko merpati nlng. kasi, im from bangkal area at nakikita ko halos lahat ng planes for final approach at runway five kasi dito sila dumadaan sa area na ito. wala na ako makita na boraq. by the way, ano yang airline na 9 na sa gabi kung dumating?

sometimes its bouraq. but most of the time its merpati.

i live here sa juna...planes pass over our house..

9 pm is the cebu pacific flight, i think. they have adjusted their flight skeds eh. or maybe its pal...alam mo naman ang pal, grabe ang delays...

or maybe its one of the many special flights that come into our airport from night time to wee hours of the morning just to refuel....technical stop kung baga...they land and refuel here kasi its much cheaper here than in cebu and manila...

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by kiretoce

CX probably does not wnat the added wear and tear on their aircrafts.

yup.. thats the main reason..CX knows that there is a hugh untapped market here for the hk flights...

almost all of the special dvo-hk-dvo flights, which is beig operated by pal, are booked...

[psionic]

yung 9 na flight I think its a A320. Ang tail fin nya ay may light. Ang alam ko na naga light ng kanilang tail fin is PAL. Pero yung plane na yun ay walang red so tail so its not PAL. Baka cebu pacific? ano pla last flight ng CEB dito sa davao. daily ang flight ng plane na iyon kasi gabi-gabi ko itong nakikita. can someone clarify this. kasi baka international plane ito na hindi lng natin namamalayan.

[psionic]

Originally Posted by xzibit31

yup.. thats the main reason..CX knows that there is a hugh untapped market here for the hk flights...

almost all of the special dvo-hk-dvo flights, which is beig operated by pal, are booked...

naga operate pla ang PAL ng dvo-hk-dvo flights?

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by psionic

yung 9 na flight I think its a A320. Ang tail fin nya ay may light. Ang alam ko na naga light ng kanilang tail fin is PAL. Pero yung plane na yun ay walang red so tail so its not PAL. Baka cebu pacific? ano pla last flight ng CEB dito sa davao. daily ang flight ng plane na iyon kasi gabi-gabi ko itong nakikita. can someone clarify this. kasi baka international plane ito na hindi lng natin namamalayan.

it might be cebu pac..last flight nila to davo 610 pm arriving 750 pm...lat flight to manila ay 850 pm

[xzibit31]

Originally Posted by psionic

naga operate pla ang PAL ng dvo-hk-dvo flights?

special flights...d yun parati...chartered ata eh..