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Old January 25th, 2013, 01:18 PM   #401
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Kaliningrad/Konigsberg
1975. Lutheran church was demolished in 1976

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Old January 25th, 2013, 04:23 PM   #402
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Old January 25th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #403
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That could've been a beautiful church again......
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Old January 26th, 2013, 11:44 AM   #404
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Tragic pictures of once Königsberg

Depeche: these 2 pictures tell me a very tragic story and end of this German city for 800 years which its lights were put out definitively in 1945.
It is also the city with the highest civilian loss of life of all German WW2 cities: of 140.000 civilains which remained back (stupid decisison) the wrath of the Soviets cost them 110.000 lives and so many horrendous deaths. A city of nearly 400.000 inhabitants which was nearly 800 years in the hands of German citizens became ausradiert with no chance at revival.

Hamburg lost ca 45.000 inhabitants (all of aerial bombardments; Berlin 44.000 ( 50% Endkampf and 50% Areal Bombardments); Dresden 25.000 and Magdeburg: 18.000. In Breslau also many civilians died. ca 45.000. And there is the terrible Swinemünde bombing. All other German cities had casualties < 10.000.

PS the pictures itself shows us the tragic loss of a beautiful church and once a splendid designed Gründerzeit Haus (they all resembles litle castles).
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Old January 26th, 2013, 12:36 PM   #405
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Typically communist, don't bother with restoration!
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Old January 26th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #406
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Tragic pictures of once Königsberg

Depeche: these 2 pictures tell me a very tragic story and end of this German city for 800 years which its lights were put out definitively in 1945.
It is also the city with the highest civilian loss of life of all German WW2 cities: of 140.000 civilains which remained back (stupid decisison) the wrath of the Soviets cost them 110.000 lives and so many horrendous deaths. A city of nearly 400.000 inhabitants which was nearly 800 years in the hands of German citizens became ausradiert with no chance at revival.

Hamburg lost ca 45.000 inhabitants (all of aerial bombardments; Berlin 44.000 ( 50% Endkampf and 50% Areal Bombardments); Dresden 25.000 and Magdeburg: 18.000. In Breslau also many civilians died. ca 45.000. And there is the terrible Swinemünde bombing. All other German cities had casualties < 10.000.

PS the pictures itself shows us the tragic loss of a beautiful church and once a splendid designed Gründerzeit Haus (they all resembles litle castles).
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Old January 26th, 2013, 01:34 PM   #407
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It's a shame that WWII destroyed so many beautiful German cities

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Old January 26th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #408
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And it is also a shame that the Germans destroyed so many Polish and Russian cities and bombed British cities, destroyed Rotterdam in the Netherlands, and killed millions innocent civilians because of their ancestry.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 02:12 PM   #409
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And it is also a shame that the Germans destroyed so many Polish and Russian cities and bombed British cities, destroyed Rotterdam in the Netherlands, and killed millions innocent civilians because of their ancestry.
Every party in the war did that.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #410
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Every party in the war did that.
That's not true, the Allies didn't murder their own citizens by the millions in camps. The Axis did.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #411
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That's not true, the Allies didn't murder their own citizens by the millions in camps. The Axis did.
The Sovjet Union did, and in the final months of the war they and the later Warschau-pact did some horrible war crimes and commited genocide in East-Germany.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 02:28 PM   #412
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The Sovjet Union did, and in the final months of the war they and the later Warschau-pact did some horrible war crimes and commited genocide in East-Germany.
The nazi's started by declaring the war, committing the most horrendous crimes in human history, bombing western Europe and murdering as many people as possible in eastern Europe.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 03:44 PM   #413
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That's not true, the Allies didn't murder their own citizens by the millions in camps. The Axis did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
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Old January 26th, 2013, 04:08 PM   #414
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The nazi's started by declaring the war, committing the most horrendous crimes in human history, bombing western Europe and murdering as many people as possible in eastern Europe.
War was inevitable because of the treaty of Versailles. And the allies started the bombing of cities.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 04:19 PM   #415
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War was inevitable because of the treaty of Versailles. And the allies started the bombing of cities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing...n_World_War_II

Btw, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pa_um_1918.jpg, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...931_census.png and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...64physical.jpg
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Old January 26th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #416
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Let me rephrase, the allies started with the continuous terror bombing of civilians instead of military targets.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #417
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Let me rephrase, the allies started with the continuous terror bombing of civilians instead of military targets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Wieluń
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Old January 26th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #418
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The bombing of Wieluń on 01/09/1939 is considered to be one of the first terror bombings in history and the first one in Europe in WW2.





And earlier (1937) there had been the bombing of Guernica by the German 'Legion Condor'.

Anyway, I reckon it's pointless to speak to that neo-nazi Kirov88. His avatar says it all.
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Old January 26th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #419
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Anyway, I reckon it's pointless to speak to that neo-nazi Kirov88. His avatar says it all.
What a joke
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Old January 26th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #420
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Probably it would be a joke if it wouldn't be so pathetic as your nazi posts in this threat.
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The Sovjet Union did, and in the final months of the war they and the later Warschau-pact did some horrible war crimes and commited genocide in East-Germany.
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War was inevitable because of the treaty of Versailles. And the allies started the bombing of cities.
I love especialy those two posts above, congratulations
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