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Old August 25th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #1201
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were those Russians and Old Believers allowed to stay during the time of expulsions?
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Old August 25th, 2013, 10:22 PM   #1202
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All Warmiaks, Masurians and Old Believers were allowed to stay in Poland after WW2.

Aleksandr Awajew - Old Believers pastor between 1922 and 1956 in Wojnowo/Eckertsdorf
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Old August 26th, 2013, 02:41 AM   #1203
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That's interesting, do you happen to know how it was decided that someone was a Warmiak, Masurian or Old Believer instead of German?
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Old August 26th, 2013, 03:13 AM   #1204
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According to Wikipedia...

Warmiaks - are a Polish ethnic group from Warmia who are mostly Roman Catholics and who speak their own dialect of Polish, called gwara warminska.

Masurians - are a Lechitic sub-ethnic group who are descended from Masovians, Polish settlers from Masovia who moved to Prussia. They speak Masurian, a dialect group of the Polish language.

The official East Prussian census of 1910
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:14 AM   #1205
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Wojnowo/Eckertsdorf, Masuria




















* In 1968, there were 412 Old Believers living in Wojnowo and Gałkowo.
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Gałkowo/Galkowen, Masuria












* The village was founded by Old Believers in 1831.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #1207
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Sorkwity/Sorquitten, Masuria








* The building, in which the camps for youth and children have been organised was thoroughly renovated.

Prayer of Thanksgiving in Lutheran Church
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Old August 26th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #1208
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Festival of Music in Lutheran Church in Mikołajki/Nikolaiken, Masuria










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Old August 26th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #1209
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Masurian Lake District
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According to Wikipedia...

Warmiaks - are a Polish ethnic group from Warmia who are mostly Roman Catholics and who speak their own dialect of Polish, called gwara warminska.

Masurians - are a Lechitic sub-ethnic group who are descended from Masovians, Polish settlers from Masovia who moved to Prussia. They speak Masurian, a dialect group of the Polish language.

The official East Prussian census of 1910
The blank part of the map at the top is labeled "east Prussia". Are the areas/cities within dotted line at the lower part of the map with the language indicators part of east Prussia as well? For example, Marienwerder was previously always designated as west Prussia.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #1212
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Are the areas/cities within dotted line at the lower part of the map with the language indicators part of east Prussia as well?
Yes.

The red line shows roughly the border between Poland and Kaliningrad Oblast today...



About 30-35% of the former East Prussian territory annexed by Poland after WW2 was once part of Kingdom of Poland (1466-1772), and lost during partitions of Poland. 55-60% of the area is called Masuria and it was inhabited mostly by Polish settlers from Masovia (up till the late 19th century).

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For example, Marienwerder was previously always designated as west Prussia.
Marienwerder/Kwidzyn region was under an inter-allied commission between 1920 and 1922. After Marienwerder plebiscite it became part of East Prussia until 1939.
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It came to East Prussia after most of the West Prussian province became polish.
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The blank part of the map at the top is labeled "east Prussia". Are the areas/cities within dotted line at the lower part of the map with the language indicators part of east Prussia as well? For example, Marienwerder was previously always designated as west Prussia.


According to admin. division before 1920:

County Osterode (Ostróda) and everything to the east - that's East Prussia.

County Rosenberg / Deutsch Eylau (Susz/Iława) and everything to the west - that's West Prussia. You can see inscription (in small letters: Westpr) below "Rosenberg".

After Versailles, when Pomoranian Corridor (which consisted mostly of former West Prussia) cut Germany into two pieces, it was decided in Germany that there is no point to keep "residuum" West Preussen, if 80% went abroad, to Poland or to Free City of Gdansk: so the former West Preussen counties, incl. Rosenberg / Eylau, Marienwerder (Kwidzyń), Stuhm (Sztum) and Marienburg (Malbork) were moved to East Prussia.
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Palace in Stolno/Stollen, Poland

Before World War II, the palace belonged to von Kuenheim family.

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Lutheran Pisz/Johannisburg Parish Feast in Wejsuny/Weissuhnen, Masuria






* Lutheran Church in Wejsuny/Weissuhnen was recently renovated
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...with the traditional light blue interior color used in almost all Lutheran Churches.
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Klaipėda/Memel castle will be rebuild in long-term stages


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Guys, could you show all crusaders castles in Poland? I would like to visit. I have been only in Marienburg/Malbork
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http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategor...ackie_w_Polsce
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Kiermas in Bałdy/Balden (2012), Warmia

Folk band in traditional Warmian costumes (tried to teach "godać, spsiewać i tancować po naszamu" )








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