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Old April 9th, 2014, 10:32 PM   #1581
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Old April 10th, 2014, 12:26 PM   #1583
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What about this
Precisely. It's neat and tidy, but unfortunately refurbished without much respect to original architecture.

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Old April 14th, 2014, 02:08 PM   #1584
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Btw, what a mess
Administrative division of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (click to enlarge)


From the left:
brown - Pomeranian Voivodeship (woj.pomorskie)
blue - Malbork Voivodeship (woj.malborskie)
red - Chełmno Voivodeship (woj.chełmińskie)
light green - Warmia (ks.warmińskie)
whitish - Duchy of Prussia (Prusy Książęce), later Kingdom of Prussia
green - Samogitia (ks.żmudzkie)

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Former Protestant Church in Grabowo/Grabowen (the town founded by Jan Bałamutowski in 1585; Protestant parish existed since 1590), Masuria






Post-war stained glass and Pope John Paul II figure


Tombstone of Lutheran pastor, Adamus Rostcovius (Adam Rostkowski) from 1625


"Pola już białe" (by Lutheran pastor in Kalinowo/Kallinowen, Bernard Rostock-Rostkowski/Rostkovius; 1690-1759) published in "Nowo wydany Kancyonał Pruski" from 1741 (Królewiec/Königsberg)
Pola już białe, kłosy się kłaniają,
Stworzycielowi cześć i chwałę dają.
Wołają: Pójdźcie, sierpy zapuszczajcie
i Pana wielbić nie zapominajcie.

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Lecz gdy ukrywasz swoją twarz przed nami,
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Old April 16th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #1585
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"Oeconomia albo Gospodarstvvo to iest Navka" (a gift for duchess Dorota Oldenburg, wife of Albrecht Hohenzollern; 1546) and "Repetitio corporis doctrinae ecclesiasticae albo Powtorzenie summy a gruntownego zamknienia prawey, pospolitey, chrzescianskiey, kościelney nauki" (preface by duke Albrecht Hohenzollern; 1569)


The tomb monument of Albrecht Hohenzollern (1570; click on the image to enlarge)

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"invicta virtute potens belloque togaque
hic lacet Albertus marchio tectus humo
teutonico pater illius prognatus Achille
regis Casimiri filia mater erat (...)"

"invincible power of the mighty in war and peace
here lies the ground, protected by marquis Albert
his father was Teutonic born Achilles
the mother was the daughter of King Casimir (...)"

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Old April 24th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #1586
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Text which was born in Prussian Lithuania.
Kristijonas Donelaitis was a Prussian Lithuanian Lutheran pastor and poet. He lived and worked in Lithuania Minor, a territory in the Kingdom of Prussia, that had a sizable minority of ethnic Lithuanians. He wrote the first classic Lithuanian language poem, The Seasons (Lithuanian: Metai), which became one of the principal works of Lithuanian poetry. The poem, a classic work of Lithuanian literature, depicts everyday life of Lithuanian peasants, their struggle with serfdom, and the annual cycle of life.
You can hear en excerpt from it in this video.

Jau saulelė vėl atkopdama budino svietą
Ir žiemos šaltos trūsus pargriaudama juokės.
Šalčių pramonės su ledais sugaišti pagavo,
Ir putodams sniegs visur į nieką pavirto.
Tuo laukus orai drungni gaivindami glostė
Ir žoleles visokias iš numirusių šaukė.
Krūmai su šilais visais išsibudino keltis,
O laukų kalnai su kloniais pametė skrandas.

Translation of this excerpt from THE SPRING'S JOYS:
Now the sun rose again to rouse the world
And laughed to topple down chill winter's labors.
And cold's creations, with the ice, diminished
As foam of snow changed everywhere to nothing.
Soon the bland weather stroked and woke the fields,
Called up herbs of all species from the dead.
Thickets and every heath bestirred themselves;
Hill, meadow, dale threw down their sheepskin jackets.



Tolminkiemis/Tolmingkehmen church was restored from Lithuanian money

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 06:34 PM   #1587
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Königsberg then & now

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 06:45 PM   #1588
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Interesting perspectives, Kaliningrad is truly a sad sight.
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quiet shocking, also I have never seen the Germanised version of the Polish name Sienkiewicz = Schenkewitz, noticed it on signs in pics above.
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Depeched, very interesting comparison of old and recent pictures of Koenigsberg.
Armageddon of European civilization.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 04:56 PM   #1591
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Castle Schaaken in Nekrassowo (Kaliningrad obl.)

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Old July 15th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #1592
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New Town Hall in Tolkmicko

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New houses in Elbląg (by Mytych, to be completed in 2015)




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Andrzej Samulowski's bookshop in Gietrzwałd/Dietrichswalde, Warmia


A book describing the apparitions of Our Lady in Gietrzwałd/Dietrichswalde published in 1878

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Roman Catholic Church of St. John the Baptist in Malbork/Marienburg



* In the 1960s, after reconstruction - photo

Epitaphs/tombs in that church:
Adam von Götzen (died during the Polish–Swedish wars)
Piotr Konopacki (†1589)
Piotr Wedelszted (†1638, father of Konstancja Kruszyńska, Urszula Lubodzieska, Karol and Michał Wedelszted)
Adrian Kitnowski (†1684)

Former Protestant Church of St. George in Malbork/Marienburg


Jan Gerhard and Marianna Dönhoff epitaph in that church; Gerhard Dönhoff's funeral sermon (he was buried in Elbląg/Elbing, 1649)



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Former Protestant Church in Cichy/Czychen, Masuria (founded in 1566, rebuilt in 1727)






"X. PAWEL GIZICKI JUN PLEBAN CICHOWSKI DLA SIEBIE Y DLA POTOMKOW SWOICH TU LEZY BARBARA, CORKA (...)"

Interior:
- Gothic triptych (ca.1510)
- 3 tombstones of the Giżycki family, Gozdawa coat of arms: Paweł (†1683), Paweł Jr. (†1715), Barbara (†1700)

18th century Masurian poet (author of "Mór w Prusiech 1709 roku"), Michał Grodzki, was a teacher in the parish school here. In 1837, 3599 Poles and 930 Germans lived in Cichy/Czychen.
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Old July 24th, 2014, 07:49 PM   #1596
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Pieniężno/Mehlsack, Poland



is a town on the Wałsza River in the Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship of Poland. It is located in Braniewo County and had a population of 2,956 in 2012.

During the Middle Ages, an Old Prussian fort called Malcekuke, loosely translated as "woods of the subterraneous" or "devil's ground", was located near the current site of Pieniężno. This was linguistically corrupted by German settlers to Mehlsack, meaning "flour sack", and then by Poles to Melzak. In the 14th century it was founded as a town west of Heilsberg/Lidzbark Warmiński in Warmia.

The Teutonic Knights built an Ordensburg castle near Malcekuke in 1302. Both the castle and the town which developed nearby were destroyed during warfare between the Teutonic Order and the Kingdom of Poland in 1414. During the Thirteen Years' War, Mehlsack surrendered to the Order, and the castle burned down during Poland's recapture of the town.

The town was captured by Swedish troops in 1626 during the Polish-Swedish War of 1625-29, recovered by Hetman Stanisław Rewera Potocki, and then had its castle partially destroyed by Swedish troops in 1627. The town hall, dating from the 14th century and rebuilt in the 15th century, was destroyed during the Swedish occupation in 1626. It was rebuilt in 1666, but burnt in a fire the same year, only to be rebuilt again in 1770. The castle was restyled in 1640 with Baroque gables, and its function changed from being a fortress to being a château.

The town was annexed by the Kingdom of Prussia during the First Partition of Poland in 1772, and administered in the Province of East Prussia the following year. It became part of the German Empire in 1871 during the Prussian-led unification of Germany.

During the 19th and 20th centuries the castle lost some of its Gothic and Baroque features, and in 1870 its eastern and southern wings were demolished after extensive deterioration. The remainder of the castle was used as administrative offices for Prussian officials. From 1920-31 the western wing was renovated so the castle could be used as a school and museum.

In 1945, Mehlsack, including its castle, was 90% destroyed by fighting during World War II and was conquered by the Soviet Red Army from Nazi Germany. The town was placed under Polish administration according to the post-war Potsdam Conference. German-speaking residents of the town were expelled and replaced with Poles, many of whom had themselves been expelled from Polish areas annexed by the Soviet Union.The town was renamed from Mehlsack to Pieniężno after Seweryn Pieniężny (1890-1940), an editor for the Polish newspaper Gazeta Olsztyńska.

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Saints Peter and Paul church, 1897

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Castle, 1302

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Divine Word Missionaries Seminary, 1921

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Old July 25th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #1597
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Why did Poland rename this town after a person, in this case Pieniężno, while there was already a Polish name for Mehlsack, namely Melzak?
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That's a good question. After II World War commies for any price wanted to separate in every possible way from german wahatever you call roots.
I think came time to rename villages/cities to their former/historical name.
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That's a good question. After II World War commies for any price wanted to separate in every possible way from german wahatever you call roots.
I think came time to rename villages/cities to their former/historical name.
A Commission for Determining Place Names was established after World War II, where a Polish equivalent or a Slavic root was found, it was preferred in establishing the "new" Polish names.

Masuria was unique because many of the place names had a unique Polish, or at least Masurian, equivalent. Sometimes they were changed to commemorate a local figure of significance to the development of the Polish language, like Rastembork to Ketrzyn, but the vast majority of time the traditional name was kept (Olsztyn, Frombork etc). Obviously this had a political motivation and was used to underscore a "Polish connection."

My grandfather was from the Kurpie region near the border of Poland and East Prussia and during the war he was taken (a whole 500 metres!) to work as slave labour on a farm near Wielbark. The owners, who spoke German and Masurian, treated my grandfather very well and took care of him and my grandfather befriended their eldest son, Alfred. After the war, the son moved to Canada and when my grandfather came to visit we arranged a reunion. When speaking English, Alfred had the thickest German accent and didn't speak Polish to my parents. When my grandfather showed up, they were both speaking in their respective dialect (Masurian/Kurpie) for hours.
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Really like your story. Are you indicating that your grandfather spoke a Kurpie dialect?
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