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Old March 24th, 2015, 06:10 AM   #1721
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Old March 24th, 2015, 08:47 AM   #1722
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Russia can not take care of Prussian cultural heritage.
Only because Russians don't consider "Prussian cultural heritage" to be worthy of preservation.

Not to mention that it was founded on land theft and genocide, which would make as much sense to preserve as Japanese heritage in Korea.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 09:43 AM   #1723
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Only because Russians don't consider "Prussian cultural heritage" to be worthy of preservation.

Not to mention that it was founded on land theft and genocide, which would make as much sense to preserve as Japanese heritage in Korea.
Man, take a look to the history of your country before criticising anyone.

It is hard to discuss with fanatic Russian!
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Old March 24th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #1724
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Man, take a look to the history of your country before criticising anyone.

It is hard to discuss with fanatic Russian!
I'm not Russian. Russians, BTW, have never committed genocide.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #1725
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The house of German philosopher Immanuel Kant:
Completly abandoned! Russia can not take care of Prussian cultural heritage. It should be a museum!
There are pretty solid plans for this, they just can't raise enough money. They were going to begin restoration in 2014 but didn't manage, I hope they will start this year.
BTW, Kant didn't live in this exact house. The house was actually built in late 19th century but possibly includes some remnants of an older house, where a local preacher had lived for whom Kant used to work for some time. So connection with Kant is a bit complicated. Nevertheless, it's a part of cultural heritage.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:32 AM   #1726
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Only because Russians don't consider "Prussian cultural heritage" to be worthy of preservation.
It's a weird sort of an excuse. Does it make them right?
In fact it was more the case in Soviet times. Now money is the main problem. In (relatively) wealthier cities some parts of Prussian heritage are being restored and revived. Like Queen Louise's monument in former Tilsit and so on.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:40 AM   #1727
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In (relatively) wealthier cities some parts of Prussian heritage are being restored and revived. Like Queen Louise's monument in former Tilsit and so on.
It's a real shame. Considering the blood-soaked foundation of the prussian state. "prussian" should be equated with the word "nazi".
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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:57 PM   #1728
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I'm not Russian. Russians, BTW, have never committed genocide.
Ask the 40-50 million murdered by Stalin about that. I agree with the advice given to you by Goy....you need to do some history homework before making such stupid statements.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:59 PM   #1729
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Ask the 40-50 million murdered by Stalin about that.
That's a cold war myth. The actual number of people sentenced to death was about 700,000. Suppose it was the ugly face of Russian imperialism. It is in no way near as scary as the face of german imperialism. May "prussians" be cursed.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:38 PM   #1730
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You should be banned for spreading false information, Raj20.
That's all from my side. I just don't discuss with a ignorants.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:56 PM   #1731
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You should be banned for spreading false information, Raj20.
That's all from my side. I just don't discuss with a ignorants.
That is rich - you want to ban me for relying on provable facts, yet you call ME ignorant.

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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:04 PM   #1732
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Immanuel Kant is one of the biggest thinkers of our times. He has nothing to do with whatever happened later in German history. It's a true shame to see his home in such a state .
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #1733
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In 1761, Immanuel Kant wrote:
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In the hot countries the human being matures in all aspects earlier, but does not, however, reach the perfection of those in the temperate zones. Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites. The yellow Indians do have a meager talent. The Negroes are far below them and at the lowest point are a part of the American peoples.
And as you're Polish, "O porzekadle" (1792):
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Polaków opisuje się jako lekkomyślnych, niestałych ludzi (...) czynią długi, nie myśląc o zapłacie (...) niewiele mają kultury tak w aspekcie sztuk, jak i nauk (...) samozawiniona niedojrzałość (...)
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:27 PM   #1734
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Ahem...
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #1735
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And as always, don't feed the troll....

@RS UK-PL
Kant never left Königsberg. I doubt he ever saw or met a black or a native american person. Besides, I remember Voltaire having quite similar views about "Negroes".
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Old March 24th, 2015, 06:01 PM   #1736
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In addition to the post #1655, please see the video.

Reconstruction of a Gothic house in Elbląg/Elbing
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Old March 24th, 2015, 07:11 PM   #1737
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Old March 24th, 2015, 07:12 PM   #1738
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I'm not Russian. Russians, BTW, have never committed genocide.
Yes, they did! Holodomor 32-33
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Old March 24th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #1739
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Typical story line: both parents Samogitian: son Pole.
Samogitian goes to Warszawa to become politician, writer, architect and become Pole.
Prior to the interwar period being Polish was a social status rather than ethnicity. Ruthenians, Germans, Lithuanians and other minorities became Polish by climbing the social ladder rather than assimilating into the ethnic Polish culture. It's a common misconception that a term describing one's nationality in the 21st century carried exactly the same meaning 100 years ago. It didn't. It also varied per region. For example, if you asked an early 20th century Austrian about his ancestry he'd say "German". Because even when a united German state came into existance, the word German referred to one's language/ethnicity and not nationality. And that's what most people (Polish, German, Lithuanian etc.) tend not to understand.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #1740
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Yes, they did! Holodomor 32-33
It was a famine, not a genocide. And the ones responsible... nevermind.
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