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Old August 29th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #21
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Would an alley really be such a bad thing? Could open up some great public spaces along the river.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #22
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a river is a valley
If we're all being so pedantic on here, a river is not a valley. A river is a watercourse generally at the lowest point of a valley.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 10:38 AM   #23
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An article here that mentions the two properties, and a possibility of extending the lines through the site

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...ng-the-future/
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Old August 30th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #24
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What the chances that lambeth and southwark will be the largest area of skyscrapers in 30 years.
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Old August 30th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #25
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That all depends on UNESCO and the Government's response.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #26
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Went to the planning exhibition of this today. Weren't allowed to take photos as the renders and model photos will be online next week. Not saying much here as I don't want to be contributing to a certain websites news section, but in terms of permeation and ground level this works well, however the design of the towers is exactly as shown on those sketches, square rectangles with the usual rectilinear cladding. Same height as One Blackfriars for the main tower.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #27
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Old September 25th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #28
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Sounds like it may be too big for this area. Buildings should step up from the riverside IMHO. I hoped for a track straddler* too to close the gap in the riverside.

*Plus trains through buildings feel urban and cool, think Heron Quays and One America Square/Fenchurch. Not to mention Broadgate...
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Old September 25th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #29
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Sounds like it may be too big for this area. Buildings should step up from the riverside IMHO. I hoped for a track straddler* too to close the gap in the riverside.

*Plus trains through buildings feel urban and cool, think Heron Quays and One America Square/Fenchurch. Not to mention Broadgate...
It's more a case the shrinking of One Blackfriars has created a 'glass ceiling' if you will that nobody is willing to go higher than. This proposal steps up from Neo Bankside to One Blackfriars, sadly there's no longer much difference in height so the potential drama of the 'steps' is lost.

They couldn't build over the tracks as there were right to light issues and the engineering was too costly so they changed the layout.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #30
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Went to the planning exhibition of this today. Weren't allowed to take photos as the renders and model photos will be online next week. .
Who ever could you mean?!
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Old October 29th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #31
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There you go.



Carlyle Group unveils South Bank tower cluster

Developer will build nine Thames-side towers between five and 48 storeys high on site of Building’s office.
Carlyle Group will submit plans for a cluster of nine towers between five and 48 storeys high on London’s South Bank this week.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 01:31 PM   #32
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I like the look of that! Simple, but elegant, and they work pretty well together with 1 Blackfriar's.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #33
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Another render close up.

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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:12 PM   #34
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Do the proposals include plans to demolish and rebuild the station? Are their any renders of the new station? I was at Blackfriars station earlier this year and it looked like they were dismantling it. It looks so modern but it's not a very pleasant place.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #35
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Damn, that's pretty cool!
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Old October 29th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #36
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London's skyline is going to be utterly transformed over the next decade with all the residential towers that are about to go up..far more than the office towers have done over the previous 10yrs.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #37
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Not exactly blown away, it is what we expecting. Still, it is much better than what is currently there.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:01 PM   #38
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I just keep thinking, we on earth did we shorten 1 Blackfriars!
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:10 PM   #39
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Looks great from those renders.

Much chance of English heritage's inevitable whinging holding things up? The other tower has approval doesn't it so should be ok?
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #40
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Can't say I like it from the initial render. It doesn't really relate to other proposals for the area, it looks like it would just stand awkwardly on its own. Also the lower elements look too busy.
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