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Old November 20th, 2011, 02:30 PM   #21
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these are the beasts

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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:54 AM   #22
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Sampson House:



I hate 1960's architecture and would quite happily see it all disappear but this example has a great sense of presense, disregards all of it surroundings, look how un-utililesed the river views are! In short this beast of a building is pretty dam cool for getting everything wrong and be completely oversized in its proportions. It is a shame that it should be demolished but c'est la vie.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 05:36 PM   #23
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What about that ugly brown building next to Sampson House? Will it go too?
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 05:38 PM   #24
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those are houses!
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 06:15 PM   #25
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This is an interesting elevation.

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There could be some interesting massing going on there if a more contemporary material was used for a reclad, with the group of verticals meeting the horizontals. I like the force of the building, it's long, its grunts into the space and has a powerful presence, and sort of resembles a cruise ship with its lengthy decking - how very 1970s. The streetscape is dire though!



So for a new build something more permeable, lighter on the space and maybe, maybe a splash of colour would be good. Don't mind what height; here's hoping that original cluster that was proposed around this area materialises.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 06:20 PM   #26
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That building is hideous.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 06:50 PM   #27
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Its like a giant, darker version of Mondial House. Its no real loss but it does have something about it. Maybe it is interesting because it is soooo ugly.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 09:47 PM   #28
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It's the building equivalent of an aye-aye. Many may be repulsed but I find them very cute.

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Old February 6th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #29
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Any more info on this development, and in particular on Ludgate House just to the west of the Blackfriars viaduct?

This was built on the alignment of the old rail line over the bridges, and they will need to regain this space if they expand Blackfriars into new platforms westwards.

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Old February 6th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #30
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After thinking about it, I'm not holding out much hope, to be honest.

If they replace Sampson House with a couple of slender office or resi towers and it's possible to open up further arches under the railway lines, then great, but...
  • Most businesses prefer large floorplans to small (ie there's a premium on large), and there is definitely a tendency towards buildings of the general massing of the current building.
  • Tall buildings will struggle to get through planning.
  • What can one do with this plot of land? It's never going to be that pleasant.
It just fantasy to suggest they would build over the tracks. Network Rail would object decisively.

My guess is they will replace it with a shiny glass box of very similar dimensions.
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Old February 7th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #31
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Almost any replacement would be an improvement on the current building, which is absolutely foul.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #32
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What can one do with this plot of land? It's never going to be that pleasant... It just fantasy to suggest they would build over the tracks. Network Rail would object decisively.
Agreed it's a long shot, and only of strategic importance for Network Rail only if it can create grade-separation at Herne Hill, and so unlock the 4-track route up through Elephant & Castle. It's a great shame that this development blocks the growth of Blackfriars westwards. I feel NR might look favourably at this, and perhaps redevelopment will allow it to expand its station entrance on the South Bank, which may quickly become more popular than the main station on the north bank.

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Old May 2nd, 2012, 04:49 PM   #33
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What about that ugly brown building next to Sampson House? Will it go too?
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Old May 4th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #34
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How did our country, our city end up even looking like this?

Most of those building could do with being knocked down.

Those 'houses' or flats on the river Get rid of them now!

As for the massive monstrosity that looks like a cruise liner has been stranded, seriously what were people thinking?
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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #35
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I can't think of a bad enough word
For this building which is so absurd.
Were the architects thinking?
They must have been drinking
It's evident their vision was blurred.
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your right SSR it does look like someone's just dumped a cruiseliner there
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Old May 9th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #37
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How did our country, our city end up even looking like this?

Most of those building could do with being knocked down.

Those 'houses' or flats on the river Get rid of them now!

As for the massive monstrosity that looks like a cruise liner has been stranded, seriously what were people thinking?


That has got to be one of the worst stretches of the Thames. A mixed bag of different styles, like Cinderella's ugly stepsisters trying to compete with each other for attention.
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Old May 21st, 2012, 07:38 PM   #38
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There's going to be an exhibition at the Bankside Resident Forum tomorrow Tuesday 22 May.

It would be nice to see some renderings...


Ludgate House & Sampson House Public Exhibition

Carlyle Group, the owners of Ludgate House on Blackfriars Road and Sampson House on Hopton Street, will present their plans for the redevelopment of these prime sites close to the new Blackfriars Railway Station.

"Our initial plans include turning the existing impermeable block structures into a vibrant and open area which includes residential, retail and offices as well as cultural centres and new public spaces by the Thames," says managing director Mark Harris.


Full article here: http://www.london-se1.co.uk/whatson/...lic-exhibition
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 12:33 AM   #39
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I'd be interested to see whether the new plans have safeguarded the rail alignment to extend Blackfriars westwards with further platforms over the old bridge piers.

Currently Ludgate House is in the way:

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Old May 30th, 2012, 02:34 PM   #40
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very vague images of the scheme http://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/plp-r...037421.article
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