Ludgate and Sampson House | Southwark | approx 165m | Pre-planning - Page 2

Ebeneezer_Goode · August 29th, 2012, 05:58 PM

Would an alley really be such a bad thing? Could open up some great public spaces along the river.

beefykeefy · August 30th, 2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jamiefearon

a river is a valley

If we're all being so pedantic on here, a river is not a valley. A river is a watercourse generally at the lowest point of a valley.

The Champ · August 30th, 2012, 10:38 AM

An article here that mentions the two properties, and a possibility of extending the lines through the site

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...ng-the-future/

PadArch · August 30th, 2012, 10:51 AM

What the chances that lambeth and southwark will be the largest area of skyscrapers in 30 years.

.Adam · August 30th, 2012, 12:40 PM

That all depends on UNESCO and the Government's response.

DarJoLe · September 25th, 2012, 07:47 PM

Went to the planning exhibition of this today. Weren't allowed to take photos as the renders and model photos will be online next week. Not saying much here as I don't want to be contributing to a certain websites news section, but in terms of permeation and ground level this works well, however the design of the towers is exactly as shown on those sketches, square rectangles with the usual rectilinear cladding. Same height as One Blackfriars for the main tower.

El_Greco · September 25th, 2012, 07:48 PM

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***ill tonkso*** · September 25th, 2012, 07:49 PM

Sounds like it may be too big for this area. Buildings should step up from the riverside IMHO. I hoped for a track straddler* too to close the gap in the riverside.

*Plus trains through buildings feel urban and cool, think Heron Quays and One America Square/Fenchurch. Not to mention Broadgate...

DarJoLe · September 25th, 2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ill tonkso

Sounds like it may be too big for this area. Buildings should step up from the riverside IMHO. I hoped for a track straddler* too to close the gap in the riverside.

*Plus trains through buildings feel urban and cool, think Heron Quays and One America Square/Fenchurch. Not to mention Broadgate...

It's more a case the shrinking of One Blackfriars has created a 'glass ceiling' if you will that nobody is willing to go higher than. This proposal steps up from Neo Bankside to One Blackfriars, sadly there's no longer much difference in height so the potential drama of the 'steps' is lost.

They couldn't build over the tracks as there were right to light issues and the engineering was too costly so they changed the layout.

Rational Plan · September 25th, 2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarJoLe

Went to the planning exhibition of this today. Weren't allowed to take photos as the renders and model photos will be online next week. .

Who ever could you mean?!

DarJoLe · October 29th, 2012, 01:17 PM

There you go.

Carlyle Group unveils South Bank tower cluster

Developer will build nine Thames-side towers between five and 48 storeys high on site of Building’s office.
Carlyle Group will submit plans for a cluster of nine towers between five and 48 storeys high on London’s South Bank this week.

SkyscraperSuperman · October 29th, 2012, 01:31 PM

I like the look of that! Simple, but elegant, and they work pretty well together with 1 Blackfriar's.

Douglas Quaid · October 29th, 2012, 02:49 PM

Another render close up.

Bowater · October 29th, 2012, 03:12 PM

Do the proposals include plans to demolish and rebuild the station? Are their any renders of the new station? I was at Blackfriars station earlier this year and it looked like they were dismantling it. It looks so modern but it's not a very pleasant place.

vank · October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM

Damn, that's pretty cool!

DeFiBkIlLeR · October 29th, 2012, 04:05 PM

London's skyline is going to be utterly transformed over the next decade with all the residential towers that are about to go up..far more than the office towers have done over the previous 10yrs.

Core Rising · October 29th, 2012, 07:50 PM

Not exactly blown away, it is what we expecting. Still, it is much better than what is currently there.

potto · October 29th, 2012, 08:01 PM

I just keep thinking, we on earth did we shorten 1 Blackfriars!

SF-02 · October 29th, 2012, 08:10 PM

Looks great from those renders.

Much chance of English heritage's inevitable whinging holding things up? The other tower has approval doesn't it so should be ok?

ferge · October 29th, 2012, 08:17 PM

Can't say I like it from the initial render. It doesn't really relate to other proposals for the area, it looks like it would just stand awkwardly on its own. Also the lower elements look too busy.

August 30th, 2012, 10:38 AM	#23
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October 29th, 2012, 01:31 PM	#32
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August 29th, 2012, 05:58 PM	#21
Ebeneezer_Goode Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 406 Likes (Received): 71	Would an alley really be such a bad thing? Could open up some great public spaces along the river.

August 30th, 2012, 10:51 AM	#24
PadArch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 951 Likes (Received): 30	What the chances that lambeth and southwark will be the largest area of skyscrapers in 30 years.

August 30th, 2012, 12:40 PM	#25
.Adam Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,550 Likes (Received): 25	That all depends on UNESCO and the Government's response.

October 29th, 2012, 02:49 PM	#33
Douglas Quaid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 1	Another render close up.

October 29th, 2012, 03:12 PM	#34
Bowater Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton Posts: 975 Likes (Received): 21	Do the proposals include plans to demolish and rebuild the station? Are their any renders of the new station? I was at Blackfriars station earlier this year and it looked like they were dismantling it. It looks so modern but it's not a very pleasant place.

October 29th, 2012, 03:19 PM	#35
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October 29th, 2012, 04:05 PM	#36
DeFiBkIlLeR SNP Scum Hunter Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,210 Likes (Received): 182	London's skyline is going to be utterly transformed over the next decade with all the residential towers that are about to go up..far more than the office towers have done over the previous 10yrs. __________________ If you're English and support the union you're a fascist racist, if you're Scottish and support the union, you're a quisling & a traitor, welcome to Ultima's fucked up world. Everyone should know, Ultima & Johnnyfive are the same person, 2 accounts, he should be banned.

October 29th, 2012, 07:50 PM	#37
Core Rising Ampersands & What Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/ Nottingham Posts: 4,841	Not exactly blown away, it is what we expecting. Still, it is much better than what is currently there.

October 29th, 2012, 08:01 PM	#38
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,515 Likes (Received): 258	I just keep thinking, we on earth did we shorten 1 Blackfriars!

October 29th, 2012, 08:10 PM	#39
SF-02 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 202 Likes (Received): 1	Looks great from those renders. Much chance of English heritage's inevitable whinging holding things up? The other tower has approval doesn't it so should be ok?

October 29th, 2012, 08:17 PM	#40
ferge Like 'Berg' Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 5,427 Likes (Received): 86	Can't say I like it from the initial render. It doesn't really relate to other proposals for the area, it looks like it would just stand awkwardly on its own. Also the lower elements look too busy.

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