IRAQ | Education Sector

[diako_ber]

My brother went to a secondary school together with a friend in Stockport when he was 16 I guess. They too said that the level of the students there was WAY lower than what they had gotten used to in the Netherlands. Also, the students over there were taught things my brother was already taught 1 year earlier.

[BigDreamer]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

I really don't know the southern europeans much TBH. But compared to the countries I know (hungary, czech, finland, denmark etc...) yea the UK is FAR worse. One of the main issues being the attitude to education by children and the anti-intellectual slant of students in the "state" schools (at least the ones I knew).

although I went to a school in "surrey" supposedly a "good" area only 35% achieved 5 A-C grades at GCSEs, and out of over 200 students in my year AFAIK I'm the only one with a PhD. half the girls were pregnant by the time they were 17, vast majority of the boys were dossers. One I think went to cambridge and studied "history".

ironically when I was in that school I was always told in "careers classes" to become a chef or a metal worker or some other such "trade" ... and was told that university would be too difficult for me (this was before the GCSE results came in and I had 11 GCSE A-Cs ... which for some reason took the teachers by surprise - how on earth did that darkie do that?).

that's a very interesting insight !

i dunno.. i can only judge from the ppl that i know here who went through the high school system here.. (mostly cousins and second degree cousins)..
most did pretty okay.. they ended up in good (not amazing) unis, Brunel and the likes.. tho one is doing med at UCL ..

i guess your opinion probably more enlightened than mine ..

[sheytanElKebir]

YMMV as the saying goes. different people had different experiences. However the UK has the "public schools" (which are actually private schools! LOL) as well as the "grammar" schools in the past (don't know if they still do) for talented students. but fact is I was always classified as an "untalented" student for no apparent reason (I never did badly in any exams) and thus stayed in a bad school, surrounded by ingrates and teachers who steered us towards a career in making sausage rolls

during 4 years of high school in London we were never taken on any trips of educational or cultural value (compared to over 100 trips during my time at school in budapest)... there were a dozen fights a day at school compared to 0 during all the years I spent in Budapest etc...

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by BigDreamer

israel has one issue with their system !

you have military service at the age of 18 !

so people finish uni at mid 20s instead of the usual 21/22 years of age..

Singapore is a similar story except that you can put off your military service until after you are done with your undergrad degree

yes, and I understand it's unpopular over there. However, there are some advantages. For a start, you take education more seriously after you are done. Secondly, in the IDF you can actually do some quite impressive technical work if you are that way inclined. If you get entry into the right units of the IDF, you can make valuable connections. I think Israel's defence electronics and software industry has benefited from this, as has its prevalent start-up culture.

I read an interview with a successful Israeli entrepreneur who said that what he gained from his time in the IDF was a "anything is possible" attitude, which he carried through to his business life.

[Ali - Iraq]

Iraqis are oppressed everywhere.

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

YMMV as the saying goes. different people had different experiences. However the UK has the "public schools" (which are actually private schools! LOL) as well as the "grammar" schools in the past (don't know if they still do) for talented students. but fact is I was always classified as an "untalented" student for no apparent reason (I never did badly in any exams) and thus stayed in a bad school, surrounded by ingrates and teachers who steered us towards a career in making sausage rolls

during 4 years of high school in London we were never taken on any trips of educational or cultural value (compared to over 100 trips during my time at school in budapest)... there were a dozen fights a day at school compared to 0 during all the years I spent in Budapest etc...

I spent my entire high school life in an all-boys grammar school. Was constituted of Jews, Asians and Chinese. You can imagine we never got laid much You can imagine we were the lowest rung of the social ladder And that we got picked on a lot by other schools


I think in my seven years there I saw one other Arab, though I'm not sure he was actually Arabic.

EDIT: in fact, our bus-route converged with two other schools, who took their respective turns in picking on us. (one of these schools was basically a prison for delinquents - its where you go if you got expelled from other schools in the borough).

[BigDreamer]

Originally Posted by Spin Cycle

yes, and I understand it's unpopular over there. However, there are some advantages. For a start, you take education more seriously after you are done. Secondly, in the IDF you can actually do some quite impressive technical work if you are that way inclined. If you get entry into the right units of the IDF, you can make valuable connections. I think Israel's defence electronics and software industry has benefited from this, as has its prevalent start-up culture.

I read an interview with a successful Israeli entrepreneur who said that what he gained from his time in the IDF was a "anything is possible" attitude, which he carried through to his business life.

very true..

one of my mates here was in the IDF special forces (explosives unit)

i think that's so awesome.. wish NZ had military service like that

[sheytanElKebir]

I was in one of those scum schools who'd stand outside your school and wait for you to come out at 3.15 because we were all bunking off and shacking up with the birds behind the bike sheds

[BigDreamer]

Originally Posted by Spin Cycle

I spent my entire high school life in an all-boys grammar school. Was constituted of Jews, Asians and Chinese. You can imagine we never got laid much You can imagine we were the lowest rung of the social ladder And that we got picked on a lot by other schools


I think in my seven years there I saw one other Arab, though I'm not sure he was actually Arabic.

EDIT: in fact, our bus-route converged with two other schools, who took their respective turns in picking on us. (one of these schools was basically a prison for delinquents - its where you go if you got expelled from other schools in the borough).

yea my cousins went to those all-boys grammar schools.. sound rather depriving

education wise, they do seem pretty good.. other than the sausage fest.. i wouldnt have mind going to one

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

I was in one of those scum schools who'd stand outside your school and wait for you to come out at 3.15 because we were all bunking off and shacking up with the birds behind the bike sheds

lucky you!

[sheytanElKebir]

spin cycle. I don't think you meant that

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by BigDreamer

yea my cousins went to those all-boys grammar schools.. sound rather depriving

education wise, they do seem pretty good.. other than the sausage fest.. i wouldnt have mind going to one

Education-wise, I had no complaints. The "old-skool" teachers were excellent, and had a real passion for their subjects and life experience which really came through. Not sure what standards are like now. There were a lot of young, new teachers coming into the school in my final couple of years, and they weren't much good. The problem is teaching is easy to get into but good teachers are rare.

Socially, it was pretty lame.

[Spin Cycle]

Originally Posted by sheytanElKebir

spin cycle. I don't think you meant that

Depends if I would have come out the other side ok. You seemed to have gotten through (though I imagine the same couldn't be said about your classmates).

[haiderpass]

Dewan Architects and Engineers to design university campus in historical city of Samarra
United Arab Emirates: Thursday, November 01 - 2012 at 16:03




Dewan Architects and Engineers, one of the region's leading architectural and engineering consulting firms, has been awarded the contract to design the Samarra University, an educational project to be established in the historic city of Samarra.

Samarra, about 124 km north of Baghdad, is considered as world's largest known ancient city with its majestic ruins. The city was built by Caliph Al-Mu'tasim in 836 AD to replace Baghdad as the capital of the Abbasid Caliphate, and abandoned by Caliph Al-Mu'tamid in 892 AD.

Despite the short sojourn of the Abbasid Caliphate in Samarra, the city's artistic, literary, and scientific splendors have remained a legend in Arab history.

The decision to participate in the Masterplanning and design of a modern university campus in Samarra, considered to be the largest ancient city known to man, is in line with Dewan's mission to actively participate in the rebuilding of Iraq's ones flourishing education sector and to help return it to its glory days where Iraq once lay claim to having the best universities in the region and the most educated population in the Arab world.

The university, which is envisioned to house around 12,000 students and a large number of acting faculty members, is planned to be implemented in three stages, with the first stage to be built by 2015.

Mohamed Al Assam, Founder, Chairman and Managing Director of Dewan, commented, "As a key player in the major reconstruction efforts of the educational sector in Iraq, we are very excited to be part of this prestigious project, which envisions an enlightened and knowledge-based society in Iraq."

He added, "This project is significant as Samarra is home to a number of sites of historic and architectural interest. As such, our design will incorporate various elements that correspond with the area's cultural and historical significance while complying with international best practices in education campus planning The university will also be designed to be environmentally friendly and with a strong focus on sustainability."

The campus, which will be planned and developed on a 2,6 square kilometres land, is expected to be a word-class education campus incorporating modern technologies and building practices, and without sacrifciging the deep-rooted Iraqi architectural heritage. The campus will house 18 colleges, including those for Education, Archaeology, Medicine, Dentistry, Engineering and Sciences, Applied Engineering, Business and Economics, Biomedical Engineering, Agriculture, Nursing, International Affairs, Law, Media and Fine Arts, Languages, Sports, Computer Sciences, Islamic Studies, and Applied Sciences.

Other building components will include the university's head office, a conference hall, central library, the various Deans' offices, a scientific/research centre, laboratories, library building, students' accommodation, faculty accommodation, a students' complex, social centres, a cultural complex, as well as restaurants and cafeterias.

Dewan Architects & Engineers has extensive experience in the educational sector and has completed a number reputed and successful projects including K-12 schools for Abu Dhabi Education Council (ADEC), Aldar Academies, in addition to higher-education projects for Zayed University, Higher Colleges of Technology, Kufa University, and George Mason University.

Commented Al Assam, "This project is one of a number of educational developments we have taken on in the GCC region and Iraq and forms part of our regional growth strategy. We have a solid track record in this sector and we are confident that we can deliver an outstanding design that corresponds with the client's vision for the future while honouring the past."

Dewan Architects & Engineers is a regional architectural and engineering design firm with nearly three decades of industry successes across GCC countries, Africa, Asia and the Middle East. The firm has offices in the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Qatar, the Philippines, and India and has received many awards for excellence including being placed on the 'World Architecture Top 100' list by the esteemed UK Building Design Magazine for four consecutive years, Major projects undertaken successfully by Dewan include the Yas Island Viceroy Hotel, The Fairmont Resort and Al Bateen School in Abu Dhabi, Ibn Batutta Shopping Mall and Green Community in Dubai, UAE, and the Baghdad Rotana Hotel in Baghdad, Iraq.


EDIT --- Just saw that elusive has already posted this in the construction thread, my bad.

[Sinjar]

Nah not your bad it should be here or even have its own thread as there is enough information about it.

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Fifty World Bank-funded schools opened across Iraq

2012-11-14

Iraq on Wednesday (November 14th) inaugurated 50 World Bank-funded schools across the country, the Ministry of Education said.

"The number of classes at the new schools range between 16, 18 and 24, all laid out according to modern designs that take the country's scientific development and the rise in student numbers into account," ministry spokesperson Waleed Hussein told Al-Shorfa.

The schools are expected to accommodate tens of thousands of students who will receive computer lessons, and attend English, chemistry, physics and biology lectures in modern classrooms, he said.

The schools also feature playgrounds, reading rooms and libraries, he said.

Sixty more schools will open by the end of this year in Iraq, according to Hussein.

[Sinjar]

Number of Iraqi students admitted to medical, engineering colleges leaps


Iraqi universities have seen an increase in the number of medical and engineering students. Above, students walk through the main gate at Baghdad's al-Mustansiriyah University. [Ali Yussef/AFP]

2012-11-14 By Khalid al-Taie in Baghdad

The number of students admitted to medical and engineering colleges in Iraq jumped significantly in the 2012-2013 academic year in comparison with the previous year, officials at the Iraqi Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research said Friday (November 9th).

The number of students graduating from high schools [in science] who were admitted into medicine-related colleges […] increased by 12% for medical colleges, 67% for dentistry colleges and 27% for pharmacy colleges across all Iraqi universities," said Abdul Wahab Mohammed, general director of the ministry's central admission office.

"As for those students accepted into engineering colleges of all specialties, their numbers rose by 20% this year," he told Mawtani.

Mohammed attributed these increased figures to the successful performance of Iraqi students in the last grade of secondary school, who he said received very high marks.

The fact more Iraqis are studying in the medical and engineering fields is "an important accomplishment for the country because we require the scientific capabilities of young students to meet the needs of the health sector for physicians, and [we also require the skills] of engineers to promote the reconstruction efforts and build our country", he said.

So far this year, a total of 114,380 students have successfully completed secondary school in the sciences, humanities and other areas, and were admitted to various colleges and institutes, he said.

The ministry created around 90 new colleges, institutes and departments to absorb this increase in students completing their secondary school studies, in line with the ministry's centralised admission plan for 2012-2013, he said.

'REAL NEED'
This year, 12,830 male and female students were accepted into medical and engineering colleges, while the total number for last year for both groups reached 10,462, ministry spokesperson Qassim Mohammed told Mawtani.

"There is great need for any increase in student numbers [in medical colleges] in order to secure the requirements of the expansions taking place in hospitals and health centres," he said. "There is also need in the private and public sectors for people specialised in engineering in order to support national development."

Mohammed said the ministry will continue its plans to build more universities, colleges and institutes, and to expand current academic institutions so they will be able to keep pace with the steady growth in Iraq's education sector in general.

Meanwhile, Ashour al-Karbouli, a member of the parliamentary committee on higher education, deemed the jump in medical and engineering students a "good and important indicator".

The increase will help overcome the problem of lack of qualified human resources in the development and service sectors, he added.

[Ali - Iraq]

International conference for higher education to be held on next Tuesday in Iraq

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Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) -The Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research will hold its international conference, on next Tuesday, to discuss developing the higher education in Iraq where the conference will witness participation of foreign exerts.

A statement by the Ministry quoted the Director General of the Research & Development Office also head of the preparatory commission for the conference, Mohamed Atiya al-Saraj, as saying “The meeting will be held under slogan (Development towards Society of knowledge) where it will be participated by experts from UK, US, Holland, Australia, and Ireland.”

“The activities of the conference, which is organized in collaboration with Iraqi Scientists Network (Nisa), will be held at Universities of Baghdad, Mustansiriya, Nahrein, and Technology for three days respectively,” the statement concluded.

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[Ali - Iraq]

[BigDreamer]

good... but i think this is overrated

[Ishtarporten]

So in the future no one will ever use books?