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Old September 27th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #81
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Yalah i never gave it much thought
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Yeap, if u observe airline branding in Indonesia, it's nowhere near AirAsia standard yet. Most of the bookings and sales are through counters and agents. That's one of the reason AirAsia bought into Batavia.
that's not true.
even the less-known airlines have provided online reservations by now
this one for example : http://www.sky-aviation.co.id/
i'm personally no longer buy ticket through counters and agents since 2010

but yeah, i think airasia is better than the rest indonesian budget airlines. the only airline in indonesia that have self checkin machine in every airports they are operating in.
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Old October 9th, 2012, 02:50 PM   #83
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No update about malindo airways since its launched last month ??
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Old October 10th, 2012, 12:45 PM   #84
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that's not true.
even the less-known airlines have provided online reservations by now
this one for example : http://www.sky-aviation.co.id/
i'm personally no longer buy ticket through counters and agents since 2010

but yeah, i think airasia is better than the rest indonesian budget airlines. the only airline in indonesia that have self checkin machine in every airports they are operating in.
yup.. I think many people here have to start re-updating their knowledge toward their tanah seberang counterpart. I guess anyone here just assuming and guessing about what have been developed in Indonesia..

Self checking machine, and some extent separated bagage fee, is uncommon for Indonesian, actually. if AA still charge passenger for checking fee, they will be out of competitive rivaling other budget airlines. Lion for instance provides free upto 20 kilos baggage and its staff helps passenger to make their own checking free of charge. Plus, Lion ticket can be purchased easily through debit card which is more popular among Indonesian rather than credit card. This maybe some reasons why AA can't bite more cake comparing to Lion in Indonesia.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #85
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here comes the nationalists..
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Old October 10th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #86
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Published: Wednesday October 10, 2012 MYT 5:09:00 PM

KUALA LUMPUR: The opposition has questioned the reliability of Lion Mentari Air, claiming that the Indonesian Airline, which was recently acquired as a partner to set up low-cost airline Malindo Airways, has been banned in the European Union (EU) for failure to comply with safety requirements.

DAP national publicity secretary Tony Pua told reporters in Parliament that Lion Mentari Air, which runs under its parent company PT Lion Group, has been blacklisted from flying into the EU and is on a list of globally banned airlines which can be found on the European Commission website (http://ec.europa.eu).

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Old October 11th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #87
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I think the opposition is missing the whole point, yes, Lion Air may be banned from flying to Europe, but Malindo Airways may not be, because the company and aircraft will be registered under Malaysia, thereby it must follow strict rule regarding aviation matters including safety that is acceptable to European or US regulations. And I thought NADI is a company that specialises in MRO right? so Lion Air may get benefit from this? Am I opine a right picture? Aviation insiders and enthusiast, you may give more insight into this.
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Lion and Airod might obtain clean sheet by operating Malaysian registered aircrafts and companies but EU will go into details if they apply to fly into Europe. This wont be their main concern until the 787 shows up.

Had complete headache few months ago when i was roped in by a friend to help him with paperworks when a company tried to bring in a 737 freighter from China and Indonesia. The aircraft was operating in China, but stored and repaired in Indonesia. Garuda facility, GMF Aero Asia was handling the repairs and acceptance job. End up we spend like a month there trying to solve all the things, while if everything in order it could be solve in a matter of days. First the record was in Mandarin, then some shoddy job and wrong spare parts ordered by GMF.

Indonesia has a long way to go but they are improving slowly. GMF, being the best maintenance house still have a long way to go to match the likes of ST Aero, Lufthansa Technik and even our own MAS Engineering. Can't blame them, the lack of local expertise hampers growth. And time is obviously needed to train local pool of technicians and engineers. Aviation in Indonesia grew at rapid pace for the last 5 years and supply of fresh skilled labors and professional couldn't keep up. It's time to invest in Indonesia and despite having some reservations about Fat Bangla, i'm glad he saw the opportunities and invest.

Indonesia AirAsia have some of the best training and operating standard there. Garuda is not bad too, but for pilots they decided to keep it pretty close to their chest, no foreign co-pilots now i was told. Lion, what can i say huh, for foreign co-pilots, they only took the paying ones (majority from Europe and India, urghhh..) and it was like a known secret they fly more than 100 hrs limit monthly, that's a serious safety concern for me.

If Malindo materialize, i doubt they will do what their counterpars in Indonesia do, DCA here is quite strict on rules and regulations, no hanky panky. Perhaps, it's good for both countries, win win situation. Lion need to spread its wing, and Malaysian are tired of MAS incapability to perform. It's good diversion. I for one, wouldn't want to invest in MAS and take it private even if i have RM 1 billion to play with. I would rather invest in a completely new full service airline and run it without union. (A union member myself..haha)

Look at AirAsia. they are as lean as turkey meat. MAS on the other hand are nothing but a piece of harmful fats
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Old October 11th, 2012, 06:44 AM   #89
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yup.. I think many people here have to start re-updating their knowledge toward their tanah seberang counterpart. I guess anyone here just assuming and guessing about what have been developed in Indonesia..

Self checking machine, and some extent separated bagage fee, is uncommon for Indonesian, actually. if AA still charge passenger for checking fee, they will be out of competitive rivaling other budget airlines. Lion for instance provides free upto 20 kilos baggage and its staff helps passenger to make their own checking free of charge. Plus, Lion ticket can be purchased easily through debit card which is more popular among Indonesian rather than credit card. This maybe some reasons why AA can't bite more cake comparing to Lion in Indonesia.
well, for me. i would rather fly with airasia since many tail strikes happened to lion fleet recently
and now airasia tickets can be booked by debit as well. i just bought may 2013 flights using my klikbca account

and baggage fee... who cares about baggage fee when you can get extremely cheap promo flights?
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Old October 11th, 2012, 06:56 AM   #90
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Yeah me too, i would take AirAsia rather than Lion air, in fact JT is the only airline i never flew before.

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Garuda facility, GMF Aero Asia was handling the repairs and acceptance job. End up we spend like a month there trying to solve all the things, while if everything in order it could be solve in a matter of days. First the record was in Mandarin, then some shoddy job and wrong spare parts ordered by GMF.
OT but do GMF still take ages to get the spareparts delivered? I heard one the issue of GMF is their reliability of getting the necessary spareparts on time.

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Yeah me too, i would take AirAsia rather than Lion air, in fact JT is the only airline i never flew before.



OT but do GMF still take ages to get the spareparts delivered? I heard one the issue of GMF is their reliability of getting the necessary spareparts on time.

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I dont like Lion or Wings, but since they are the biggest now, they should capitalise on that and improve on services before branding. It's an opportunity to grab attention away from AirAsia. With serious competition i see it coming, since AirAsia received favourable comments from Indo travellers. Lion need to buck up and deliver. Tail strikes and whatnots are not doing good to the company. Spend a little bit more on training and enforce some good SOP for their tech crew will enhance customer's confidence.

Well, GMF for me, honestly is swarmed with little Napoleons. Sometimes u can't avoid feels like being shortchanged and that scare customers away. The problems with spare parts order can be solved if everyone talking to each other. If they dont improve, then it's really a lost opportunity to become one of major players in SEA.
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The thing about LION is their upcoming brand new fleet will change the whole story.

As for Malaysia Airlines (MAS), I'm not sure how the Airbus A380s have changed them.
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The thing about LION is their upcoming brand new fleet will change the whole story.

As for Malaysia Airlines (MAS), I'm not sure how the Airbus A380s have changed them.
they already had brand new fleet.
more than 70 of B737-900 extended range in almost of their flights and currently orders dozens B737-MAX, even bigger than garuda's domestic fleet
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Recruitment: Malindo Air (operated by Lion Air in Malaysia)

Malindo Air, not just low cost...

http://www.malindoair.com/

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Seated, PT Lion Grup president-director Bapak Rusdi Kirana (l) and NADI president Tan Sri Dato' Ahmad Johan formalize the launch of Malindo Air, while, standing, from l to r, Malaysian minister of transport Dato' Sri Kong Cho Ha, Malaysian prime minister Dato' Sri Mohd Najib Tun Razak and NADI chairman Tan Sri Hashim Ali look on.

Malindo Air will begin operations with 12 new generation Boeing 737-900ER and 5 new Boeing Dreamliner 787 to be delivered to LION AIR next year.

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Over 2,000 jobseekers at Malindo Airways office this morning
By BK Sidhu | The Star | Thursday November 1, 2012 MYT 11:42:00 AM
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PETALING JAYA: Over 2,000 people looking for jobs showed up at the walk-in interview at Malaysia's newest low cost airline, Malindo Airways office at KLIA on Thursday morning.

The airline did not expect so many people to show up. A large number of those who showed up were pilots, as there are over 1,174 pilots in the country that are still unemployed.

Malindo is offering jobs for pilots, cabin crew, engineering and general support positions.

The airline has taken up space at KLIA main terminal building where its office is located and the airline is planning to begin commercial operations on May 1, starting with flights to Indonesia.

This will be the country's second low cost airline after AirAsia. Malindo is a joint venture between Malaysia's Nadi Sdn Bhd and Indonesia's Lion Air. Nadi has 51% equity stake in Malindo while the owners of Lion Air, the Kirana brothers hold 49% stake in Malindo via PT Lion Grup.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 08:54 AM   #97
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Nak jadi pilot pun kena walk in meh? Mcm nak apply jadi bus driver heh heh
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I have always thought of them as glorified bus drivers!
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 05:04 AM   #99
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Malindo Air brings forward operations date to mid-March


2 NOV 2012

PETALING JAYA: Malindo Air which is supposed to start flying May next year has brought forward the launch date to mid-March and will begin with domestic flights and a month later it will expand to offer international flights with its first stop being India, said PT Lion Grup chief Rusdi Kirana.

In a telephone interview, he said that he had decided to delay the launch of Indonesia's Batik Air from March to year-end in 2013 because he wanted to focus on building Malindo to become regional player sooner.

“We will delay Batik Air launch because we can now use Malindo to fly international routes. You must remember that Indonesians like to fly the world via Kuala Lumpur, Singapore or Bangkok and Lion Air, being the biggest domestic carrier can be a feeder for Malindo for the international connectivity,” he said.

“It is possible for us to bring forward the launch date because the aircraft meant for Batik Air will now be allocated to Malindo. Batik Air was only going to offer point to point services but we are more keen to have a hub in KL to move traffic beyond KL.
“We now fly the most number of points within Indonesia and imagine the traffic volume that we can bring from all these destinations into KL and beyond to countries such as Thailand, China, India, Vietnam and Hong Kong,” he said, adding that “We would fly where the Indonesians like to go and the feed will be from Indonesia.”
This year Lion Air would have flown 30 million passengers, and next year it is targeting 35 million and Malindo Air CEO Chandran Ramamuthy said “if we can divert 10% of that traffic into KL and beyond, it would be good.”

PT Lion has a 49% stake in Malindo Airways Sdn Bhd which will operate Malindo Air. PT Lion owns the whole of Lion Air and Batik Air, a new start up for international routes. The remaining stake in Malindo is held by Tan Sri Ahmad Johan via Nadi Sdn Bhd. Ahmad Johan also owns Mofas Air.

Lion Air has 600 take-offs daily and it has ordered more than 300 new aircraft from Boeing whose deliveries stretch through to 2026.

It currently has 75 aircraft.
Malindo will take delivery of the first two B737-900ER in March, followed by and two each in April and May.
On funding he said “I think it is not going to be so much, the idea is to have 12 aircraft next year.”
Rusdi said the first two aircraft will be used to ply the Kuala Lumpur-Sabah and Sarawak routes.
The next two will be used for flights to India, and its first stop will be Trichy but New Dehli will be added to its network.

“In May we will fly to China and are looking at cities such as Canton and Shenzhen, and will also add Hong Kong,” he said.

Asked if Malindo had the rights to fly the international routes like China and India, he said “we are in the process of getting the rights.”

Chandran added that “we have had a series of meetings with the regulators and we are confident that we can start in March. We have submitted all the applications and are awaiting for approvals.”
Asked on competition he said “if you see AirAsia Indonesia and Garuda, they have a big network in Indonesia but their market share is smaller than ours and we have 600 take offs in a day, and we carry 100,000 passengers a day. So with kind of traffic, and if we have more destinations, we can carry more passengers. We fly to 69 points such as Sulawesi, Kalimantan, Pekan Baru, Medan, Semairiang, Solo, Pontianak and all this traffic (needs to go somewhere). That is why we think we can be successful with Malindo,” he said.
On the overwhelming response to Malindo walk in interview he said “it is good that there are a lot of people who want to be involved in the aviation industry. There is a good time to expand in Malaysia given the pool of human resources here.”

More: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story...8&sec=business
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Over 3,000 turned up at Malindo's first walk in interview
By B.K. SIDHU | The Star | Friday November 2, 2012
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PETALING JAYA: Malindo Air is set to at least halve Malaysia's problem of unemployed pilots.

The country's newest low-cost airline and its Indonesian partner Lion Air will absorb all the 600-odd pilots who turned up for the walk-in interview at the KL International Airport yesterday.

And they might take more with further interviews planned for today and tomorrow, according to Malindo Air chief executive officer Chandran Ramamuthy.


Hopefuls: A sea of applicants waiting for their interviews during Malindo Air's walk-in-interviews at its KLIA office.

He told The Star: “We will take all of them (who turned up yesterday) and more pilots provided they meet all our requirements which include them passing our entrance examinations and meeting Department of Civil Aviation regulations.

“We will take them within a year. The timing is subject to availability of our instructors and simulator. We intend to position one simulator in Kuala Lumpur early next year.”

He added that Malindo would take some of the pilots and the others would be absorbed by Indonesia's Lion Air, that country's largest privately-owned airline, controlling 50% of the domestic air market.

Those hired will have to undertake an aircraft-type rating, and payment for the training would be through bank loans and other sources of funding, Chandran said.

Malindo, launched last September, is a joint venture between Malaysia's Nadi Sdn Bhd and Indonesia's PT Lion Grup, which controls Lion Air. Nadi has 51% stake in Malindo with PT Lion Grup holding the remaining equity.

Malaysia has 1,174 unemployed pilots, many of whom cannot repay the bank loans they took to obtain the commercial pilot licence which costs an average of RM250,000.

Malindo has given them a ray of hope. Chandran said: “As our group grows, we would need more pilots. We have already ordered over 300 new aircraft to add to our present fleet of 75. We will have the capacity to hire more pilots but it would be done in stages.''

We have the capacity to absorb more pilots over time because Lion Air now hires pilots from Europe and since Malaysia has unemployed pilots, we can now source them from here,'' Chandran added.

Over 3,000 people attended the walk-in interview yesterday for positions of pilots, cabin crew, engineers and support staff.

Chandran said: “We are building an airline that will have 100 aircraft in 10 years. In five years, we would have created 5,000 jobs.''

Malindo Air is a new low-cost carrier that is expected to operate out of KLIA2 and start plying Indonesia-Malaysia routes from May next year. The airline's walk-in interviews will continue until Saturday.




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By B.K. SIDHU | The StarBiz | Friday November 2, 2012
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PETALING JAYA: Malindo Air which is supposed to start flying May next year has brought forward the launch date to mid-March and will begin with domestic flights and a month later it will expand to offer international flights with its first stop being India, said PT Lion Grup chief Rusdi Kirana.

In a telephone interview, he said that he had decided to delay the launch of Indonesia's Batik Air from March to year-end in 2013 because he wanted to focus on building Malindo to become regional player sooner.

We will delay Batik Air launch because we can now use Malindo to fly international routes. You must remember that Indonesians like to fly the world via Kuala Lumpur, Singapore or Bangkok and Lion Air, being the biggest domestic carrier can be a feeder for Malindo for the international connectivity,” he said.

“It is possible for us to bring forward the launch date because the aircraft meant for Batik Air will now be allocated to Malindo. Batik Air was only going to offer point to point services but we are more keen to have a hub in KL to move traffic beyond KL.

We now fly the most number of points within Indonesia and imagine the traffic volume that we can bring from all these destinations into KL and beyond to countries such as Thailand, China, India, Vietnam and Hong Kong,” he said, adding that “We would fly where the Indonesians like to go and the feed will be from Indonesia.”

This year Lion Air would have flown 30 million passengers, and next year it is targeting 35 million and Malindo Air CEO Chandran Ramamuthy said “if we can divert 10% of that traffic into KL and beyond, it would be good.”

PT Lion has a 49% stake in Malindo Airways Sdn Bhd which will operate Malindo Air. PT Lion owns the whole of Lion Air and Batik Air, a new start up for international routes. The remaining stake in Malindo is held by Tan Sri Ahmad Johan via Nadi Sdn Bhd. Ahmad Johan also owns Mofas Air.

Lion Air has 600 take-offs daily and it has ordered more than 300 new aircraft from Boeing whose deliveries stretch through to 2026.

It currently has 75 aircraft.

Malindo will take delivery of the first two B737-900ER in March, followed by and two each in April and May.

On funding he said “I think it is not going to be so much, the idea is to have 12 aircraft next year.”

Rusdi said the first two aircraft will be used to ply the Kuala Lumpur-Sabah and Sarawak routes.

The next two will be used for flights to India, and its first stop will be Trichy but New Dehli will be added to its network.

In May we will fly to China and are looking at cities such as Canton and Shenzhen, and will also add Hong Kong,” he said.

Asked if Malindo had the rights to fly the international routes like China and India, he said “we are in the process of getting the rights.”

Chandran added that “we have had a series of meetings with the regulators and we are confident that we can start in March. We have submitted all the applications and are awaiting for approvals.”

Asked on competition he said “if you see AirAsia Indonesia and Garuda, they have a big network in Indonesia but their market share is smaller than ours and we have 600 take offs in a day, and we carry 100,000 passengers a day. So with kind of traffic, and if we have more destinations, we can carry more passengers. We fly to 69 points such as Sulawesi, Kalimantan, Pekan Baru, Medan, Semairiang, Solo, Pontianak and all this traffic (needs to go somewhere). That is why we think we can be successful with Malindo,” he said.

On the overwhelming response to Malindo walk in interview he said “it is good that there are a lot of people who want to be involved in the aviation industry. There is a good time to expand in Malaysia given the pool of human resources here.”
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