Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)

[IndioBravo]

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I think Cebu will be better off with this kind of Mass transport.Aside from being a lot more cheaper.It's more easier to build and not blocking nice views.
I hope Cebu stops copying Imperial Manila.Specially it's urban mistakes.
(Pics courtesy of Senor Pancho-Muchas gracias Senor)

[Louman]

Nah. I think an overhead LRT is still better. They just need to find a way to keep it from completely covering the entire street AND sidewalk underneath it. I've seen it before here in Los Angeles. I don't think you would want to be in that bus in the middle of rush hour. I'm sure some idiot will go on that lane even if it was for buses only. .... and enough with the silly "imperial" Manila epithets. C'mon. Have some love with your fellow kababayans up north. Sure the capital has made its mistakes (ok.. a lot of mistakes. hahahaha) and Cebu will be able to learn from them.

[dabert]

furthermore, most of cebu's roads are narrow... definitely not feasible for a BRT system if it were to transverse major thoroughfares that barely reach 4 lanes.

[Louman]

I just looked at Google Earth and it looks like Cebu will have to widen its lanes or face the same traffic problems as Manila. If most of the streets really are barely more than 4 lanes then its roads are not ready to handle a city three or more times the current population let alone handle a overhead LRT. I hope no one's house or business here is not in the way of any future road widening.

[rage@cebu]

Originally Posted by dodong

i agree with you. highways don't last long in the philippines...and we all know why.

the only highway i know here in the philippines is NLEX because it is the best managed by a private firm... we could build it here in Cebu.

[allan_dude]

Originally Posted by dodong

i agree with you. highways don't last long in the philippines...and we all know why.

Hindi rin tumagal yung mga railways natin. Ibang lines abandoned na or napapabayaan.

[pau_p1]

Originally Posted by rage@cebu

the only highway i know here in the philippines is NLEX because it is the best managed by a private firm... we could build it here in Cebu.

we've got a lot of highways in the Philippines but not as wide as freeways in western countries...

NLEX, SLEX, Coastal Road, STAR are all tollways... not sure if there are tollways currently in Visayas and Mindanao...

[flesh_is_weak]

i agree with @rage, Cebu needs a decent, "real" highway...that would cut the 4-hour trip to Bogo from Cebu to about an hour and a half

[IndioBravo]

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Cebu is too small to have big highways.BRT's are more practical.With highways you only promote more cars,it's good if you can afford it.But if not,like most of us Cebuanos,then a comprehensive mass transpo is needed.BRT's can run on Cocodiesel or LPG's which can be a boon to the environment and air quality of Cebu,which is already choked up by private cars and jeepneys.(Let's see if those rude drivers can jump over these concrete barriers.wasak ang sasakyan mo!)

[dodong]

Originally Posted by allan_dude

Hindi rin tumagal yung mga railways natin. Ibang lines abandoned na or napapabayaan.

you are probably referring to railways constructed before the war. if i'm not mistaken, the first railway constructed after the war is LRT1.

http://www.pnr.gov.ph/

[rage@cebu]

Originally Posted by pau_p1

we've got a lot of highways in the Philippines but not as wide as freeways in western countries...

NLEX, SLEX, Coastal Road, STAR are all tollways... not sure if there are tollways currently in Visayas and Mindanao...

im referring to convenience in driving these highways... it usually takes 40minutes for me to drive from balintawak to dau.... i envy the freeways abroad, it will only take 3hrs. to travel a 300km distance...

[jameslab8470]

Originally Posted by IndioBravo

Cebu is too small to have big highways.....

Cebu is not small. And should have big highways... yun lang...

[Mootown]

Originally Posted by rage@cebu

we don't need a rail system sinj... not everyone can use the system, there are a lot of feasible means to transport goods and people from one place to another, and in the case of Cebu were goods are transported in a specific place and not just a station... freight trucks, buses and cars are the common types of transport which are ideal to an island province like ours...

haven't we learned from manila? the MRT/LRT system is not even earning, how much more here in Cebu... we must look further, take for example Germany's autobahn and USA Inter-state highways... they are the backbone of their economies...

as i have said before, we must not waste people's money on systems that won't work... we need to fully utilize our resources on something that everyone can use feasibly, economically, and suitable to our needs.

the highway system could be the backbone for Cebu's economic growth as we pursue to become the only Province-wide economic zone.

Toast everyone...
yeah i think highways are better investment for cebu in the long run this is the way to connect (unite) the whole province

[tj_brewed]

wala lang.....lurk lang! ah basta kung ano ang ok para sa Cebu..dun ako! MRT, LRT, BRT, Highway or Expressways.....Sana lahat yun! Widen the roads, build up expressways and decent highways, plus may MRT para mas mabilis ang transportation for Cebuanos who do not have cars like moi

[midwestguy1]

Originally Posted by IndioBravo

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Cebu is too small to have big highways.BRT's are more practical.With highways you only promote more cars,it's good if you can afford it.But if not,like most of us Cebuanos,then a comprehensive mass transpo is needed.BRT's can run on Cocodiesel or LPG's which can be a boon to the environment and air quality of Cebu,which is already choked up by private cars and jeepneys.(Let's see if those rude drivers can jump over these concrete barriers.wasak ang sasakyan mo!)

Yes, we are with you. It's more practical. But then, just like what Louman mentioned. The roads around cebu are narrow, even around the business park are narrow, there are already built up and it's harder to widen it up maybe not so much with SRP area. And then, when I was in Cebu, I've noticed that the public transport drivers are as bad as manilan's, even my brother in law drives with no regards to lanes and such.

The idea of Cocodiesel or LPG is always good....

[wheel of steel]

Practically Cebu City layout is so old, and I think it was designed in late 19th Century.. Practically, a heavy railway system is really suitable for Cebu City. If it is easy to acquire ROW, then it's good for it but if it takes too long to do it, I suggest the government must first build an elevated railways system in the likelyhood of LRT (Megatren), not the Metrotren and not even the Oldest LRT1. Megatren is superb and can run in heavy passenger volume plus interchangeable formation of the cars. Though, Cebu also have wide avenues, LRT is simply the construction of pillars at the center of these wide avenues very much similar to the one done in Megatren....

[technoblaze]

i hate railways... they are an eyesore... look at manila , it would ruin our province look.. better if they make a subway or sumthing... and put many trees around it.

unlike manila, very2x hot in manila, super congested manila,.. just visit areas near Lrt, MRt in manila... its hot hot lets folow skorea, singapore, hongkong, Japan the Cool Hightech Cities

[midwestguy1]

Highways and rail system I'm sure it will benefit all the cebuanos as both will facilitate more growth in Cebu economy. Highways can be 4 laners just like NLEX, it will help a great deal as far as shortening the travel time. Cebu might not need superhighways about the size of San Francisco freeway because it is not as heavily populated like the latter.

Originally Posted by adrianvill2

i hate railways... they are an eyesore... look at manila , it would ruin our province look.. better if they make a subway or sumthing... and put many trees around it.

unlike manila, very2x hot in manila, super congested manila,.. just visit areas near Lrt, MRt in manila... its hot hot lets folow skorea, singapore, hongkong, Japan the Cool Hightech Cities

You think LRTs are ugly? I think they really are nice looking and very modern, other developed countries have them too. Cebu city is too small to have a subway really besides, it's expensive and will take 2 or 3 times longer to dig a tunnel then build a rail system underneath, besides, the Philippines is also within the Pacific rim of fire, I'm not sure if it's really wise. Subways are really nothing to be proud of if you are to ask me. They are not really hightech. Now, if it's a monorail for Cebu, I think that would be perfect just in Cebu proper alone then Link it with other rail system leading towards different provinces of Cebu Island, if that is possible.

[wheel of steel]

Originally Posted by adrianvill2

i hate railways... they are an eyesore... look at manila , it would ruin our province look.. better if they make a subway or sumthing... and put many trees around it.

unlike manila, very2x hot in manila, super congested manila,.. just visit areas near Lrt, MRt in manila... its hot hot lets folow skorea, singapore, hongkong, Japan the Cool Hightech Cities

We can't follow the footstep of Japan without railways. Shutdown the whole JR Rail and Japan would be in CHAOS!!!

[wheel of steel]

Originally Posted by midwestguy1

Highways and rail system I'm sure it will benefit all the cebuanos as both will facilitate more growth in Cebu economy. Highways can be 4 laners just like NLEX, it will help a great deal as far as shortening the travel time. Cebu might not need superhighways about the size of San Francisco freeway because it is not as heavily populated like the latter.

That's right, I agree with you. Railways can solve the problem in Cebu at least for the Medium Term then after that starts building a super elevated highway that can absord the massive increase in trappik in the future...