Bus Rapid Transit (BRT)

[wheel of steel]

I think we've got one subway plan up in Manila. The semi-confirmed Northrail Phase 4 project that would eventually bypassed all major roads by building a subway from Caloocan to Fort Bonifacio thus providing a seamless express train ride to DMIA..

[midwestguy1]

oh, I doubt if that will really gonna happen. That's why they went overhead in the first place. But who knows? maybe they can go real deep underground without affecting the traffic and such at the surface.

[wheel of steel]

Really, the boring(tunnelling) machines of nowadays are so fast compared to decade 80's, maybe that's probably the reason why they were opted for that instead of Elevated Railway.

[flesh_is_weak]

if you'll all take a closer look, Cebu's streets arent really that small...Jones Avenue for example is 8-lanes-wide, and N. Bacalso is a good 6-8-lanes...the real problem is the lack of discipline in most drivers

[rage@cebu]

scrap that MRT/LRT system if it were to be built along Jones Ave, i really don't like the idea of putting a huge concrete wall in the center of the road... even if we design it like those of our neighboring neighbors we will still end up having a dirty, expensive, chaotic, and bankrupt system all because of government red tape, corruption, and lack of self-discipline. MODERNITY? I don't think it is a good answer...

[flesh_is_weak]

i didnt mention anything about building an LRT line along Jones...but i'm with you in opposing that...for now, a BRT would be the practical choice...and should the demand for a more efficient system come--LRT, MRT, or subway--we could always sell the buses to some other Philippine city that would benefit from them, then put the new system where the buses used to be

[Louman]

If you look at Google Earth, the road leading to the Capitol Building in Cebu is not consistent in its number of lanes. Apparently, the closer you get to the Capitol Building, the more lanes there are. I think it goes from 4 lanes, then to 6, and maybe to 8.

[midwestguy1]

I've seen the roads in Cebu or atleast at Jones Ave. It may have 6 to 8 lanes but the actual width size is still narrow. Although there is a road there going towards Minglanila that is wider, probably because it was built in the latter years unlike Jones that been there for a long long time.

[wheel of steel]

Originally Posted by pIrEnA

if you'll all take a closer look, Cebu's streets arent really that small...Jones Avenue for example is 8-lanes-wide, and N. Bacalso is a good 6-8-lanes...the real problem is the lack of discipline in most drivers

It might be that case but trains are well designed to sharp curves. Im possitive that it is not impossible to set a mass transport in Cebu and they must initiate it now...

[allan_dude]

Originally Posted by dodong

you are probably referring to railways constructed before the war. if i'm not mistaken, the first railway constructed after the war is LRT1.

http://www.pnr.gov.ph/

Before and after. Ang tinutukoy ko kasi mejo off topic, about sa maintenance ng railways natin. Halos same lang sya sa comment mo about our Highways.

Dodong nakasakay ka na ba sa LRT1 or MRT3? Pag naranasan mo na sumakay, alam mo na rin kung ano tinutukoy ko. LRT2 mejo napapabayaan na rin pero OKx pa naman.

[midwestguy1]

Maybe the Cebu government would privatize the LRT system in Cebu so that hopefully, it will be well kept and maintained. I don't know if that is possible. Looking at BRT system, it will not be too bad to have it in Cebu, especially if that can be modified a little bit where there would be an extra car behind that can be pulled just like a train. On the whole Island of Cebu including Mactan Island, I can see how an rail system will benefit the whole region so hopefully all you guy's suggestion would be realized as I don't think none of them were all a bad idea...

[Ady001]

I think Cebu could build a purple-line like LRT system (although I believe ito ang pinakainutil na line ng LRT because marami namang Jeepneys na nagpapass-by sa area, which renders this a piece of weirdness and white elephant.

[Jarenz]

Underground Railway System would be the best solution......

[animasola]

Although I do not agree entirely, it would be a good long-term solution. But let us fix our sewage/drainage system first.

[flesh_is_weak]

the sewers can be fixed/constructed together with the construction of the subway...but that would be very expensive...not to mention the cost of maintaining it, especially when it rains...

[dodong]

Originally Posted by allan_dude

Before and after. Ang tinutukoy ko kasi mejo off topic, about sa maintenance ng railways natin. Halos same lang sya sa comment mo about our Highways.

Dodong nakasakay ka na ba sa LRT1 or MRT3? Pag naranasan mo na sumakay, alam mo na rin kung ano tinutukoy ko. LRT2 mejo napapabayaan na rin pero OKx pa naman.

yeah, 8 years ako dyan at kaaalis ko lang. LRT1 sinasakyan ko papuntang opisina at MRT pag namamasyal ako sa cubao. ok pa rin yan. at least, umabot ng 23 years ang LRT1 at 8 years ang MRT3. kung highway pa ang MRT3, isang malakas na ulan pa lang, malamang may mga butas na kinabukasan yan dahil sa baha at sa laki ng mga sasakyan na dumadaan dyan sa EDSA.

BTW, was there a railway construction after the war and before LRT1? As fas as I know, the railway from dagupan to manila was constructed in 1892 and the extension railways from dagupan to la union and manila to legaspi were constructed in 1916. branch lines within central luzon and metro manila were also constructed in 1916.

[allan_dude]

basta para saken Luma na mga metro lines natin except LRT2.

[flesh_is_weak]

nakasakay na ko ug train dinhi sa Cebu...naa sa SM

[diz]

I like that ride.

[alcogoodwin]

Originally Posted by dodong

BTW, was there a railway construction after the war and before LRT1? As fas as I know, the railway from dagupan to manila was constructed in 1892 and the extension railways from dagupan to la union and manila to legaspi were constructed in 1916. branch lines within central luzon and metro manila were also constructed in 1916.

What year was the Carmona branchline built?
IIRC this was a Marcos project and ws the last MRR/PNR branchline to be built thus far.

Brad