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Filius Dei
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![]() If ever there's going to be an MRT/LRT in Cebu, it's actually just going to be a revival of the old Philippine Railway line. So it's actually pointless to talk about the narrow interior roads of the city, hehehe.. ![]() It would be a revival in the sense that the proposed MRT/LRT will follow the same old line and will still connect the same towns that it served before (from Carcar City in the south passing by the cities of Talisay, Cebu and Mandaue and all the way up north to Danao city). The MRT/LRT is actually not bad. It's just providing us with an alternative to be efficient. Trivia to local residents: Actually, we still have functioning railways in Cebu. They're at a sugar plantation in Medellin, Cebu. I saw one carrying loads of sugar cane! There's also a railroad crossing at the highway going to San Remigio town and trains do still cross there even today. Hehehe.. .. Last edited by LordCarnal; August 31st, 2007 at 06:45 PM. |
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Filius Dei
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The Philippine Railway in Cebu (circa 1944)
- my venerable uncle told me that the Central Station was once at the site where EMALL is right now.
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Save Fiji Railways NOW
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1) Is much of the original railway formation still vacant of buildings? 2) How long ago did you see this sugar train for the Medellin Mill? I was under the impression they had dumped rail. If not, then Cebu may well be on the list for my next trip. 3) What do the trains aul through this crossing in San Remingo? Is this for the Medellin Mill as well? Thanks Brad
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Save Fiji Railways NOW
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The branchline to Carmona was opened in 1973, April 1st to be exact. This thus predates the LRT. It was recently pointed out to me as being important as it is 'currently' the only remaining railway in Cavite province. Brad
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Filius Dei
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Regarding the sugar train in Medellin, the last time I saw a functioning one was in 2003 when we went to a beach resort there. Actually the highway cuts through the sugar plantation thus the crossing with that "X" sign that looks like a stoplight, hehe.. .. Last edited by LordCarnal; September 1st, 2007 at 07:50 PM. |
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Save Fiji Railways NOW
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Would it be easy to relay the tracks in the same place again or has it all been built over? If built over, I wonder if it was done legally or its a 'informal settler' type situation as in Manila. Thanks Brad
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Filius Dei
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BUS RAPIT TRANSIT TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY DECEMBER
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb...ber.mayor.html EVEN if he suffers politically, Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña wants to set up the Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system in the Banilad-Talamban corridor as soon as possible to reduce traffic there. Osmeña said that if they can put everything in place by December, including the buses, the City Government may start implementing it by the end of the year. The mayor said the Banilad-Talamban stretch will be the pilot travel line, where 20 air-conditioned Kaohsiung buses will service the commuters during the initial operations. City Hall will operate the BRT itself but will eventually bid out the project to private investors, who will also have to provide the buses. Osmeña said it is about time the City implements the transport system that has helped Curitiba, Brazil address its traffic problems and improve the quality of life of its citizens for 30 years now. “We’re going to try to implement this in the Banilad-Talamban corridor in less than one year so we can eventually remove the cars and jeepneys from the roads. I’m going to exercise political will on this because very clearly, status quo is not acceptable anymore,” said the mayor. Consulted In his news conference yesterday, Osmeña assured that the students of schools in the Banilad and Talamban areas will be consulted when the City identifies bus stops. Jeepneys will still be allowed to ply the Banilad-Talamban route during the initial stages of operations but will not be allowed to stop on the designated BRT bus stops. But once the operations are in full swing, jeepneys will not be allowed to ply the route. “Once it is fully implemented, there will be no more jeepneys there. If we can implement this by Christmas, fine. We have to have a working model for everyone to understand and in the future, we will have the private sector run it,” said Osmeña. A BRT system works like the train system but uses buses instead of train coaches and bus lanes instead of train tracks. It is also cheaper to operate. Stairless The buses are stairless and passengers pay at the specially designed bus stops. As in Curitiba, the mayor said there will be lanes that will be dedicated solely for the buses. The Curitiba BRT uses up to five bi-articulate buses connected by bolts. When asked how much the system will cost, the mayor said in jest: “Fifty thousand votes for BO-PK.” He expects city-wide opposition to the plan, but said he will do it anyway to solve the congestion problems in the city. “We are not doing this for profit so if we have to subsidize it, we will subsidize the operations at least during the early stage. We have to transfer the passengers to the buses to minimize the number of vehicles on the road,” he said. |
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Debate looms on transport system
By MARS W. MOSQUEDA JR. CEBU CITY — A debate on what is the best public transport system in Metro Cebu is shaping up. The Cebu Provincial Board is set to pass a resolution in support of a bill filed by Cebu 1st District Rep. Eduardo Gullas to establish a rail system in the province similar to the Light Rail Transit (LRT) System in Metro Manila to solve the city’s perennial traffic problems. The move of the Provincial Board came on the heels of reports that the Cebu City government is also eyeing the establishment of a Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system for Cebu City as a mode of public transportation, also to address traffic problems. Guillas had the measure to construct an LRT system in Metro Cebu, also noting that "now is the perfect time to build an LRT system because of the increasing value of the peso against the dollar. In support of Guillas’ measure, Board Member Juan Bolo the LRT is the perfect solution to the worsening traffic problem in Metro Cebu that has been the result of rapid population increase, attributed mainly to migration. Bolo also said he believes the LRT system will also provide a convenient form of travel that could be enjoyed by Cebuanos and its migrants. In his measure filed in Congress, Guillas said Cebu desperately needed a fast, safe and economical LRT system in order to ease heavy motor vehicle traffic congestion. "There is no question that Cebu desperately needs a fast, safe, convenient and economical LRT system. This is the best time for the government to invest in such a mass transport project in Cebu, with the peso strengthening against the US dollar," Gullas earlier said. He said two years ago, a -billion LRT line would have cost P55 billion. "Now, it would cost us only P46 billion to put up the same project," he added. Gullas’ initiative came as the national government prepared to reinforce Cebu’s infrastructure support under the Central Philippines Investment Program. Under the program, Malacañang approved P60.8-billion infrastructure spending program for Cebu up to 2010. Meanwhile, the Cebu City government is also eyeing the establishment of a Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system for Cebu City as a mode of public transportation, also to solve the worsening traffic problem here. Cebu City Planning and Development Officer Nagiel Paul Villarete said City Hall wants to establish a BRT system in the northern corridor particularly along the eight-kilometer Gov. Cuenco Avenue. Villarete said there is a need to widen the four-lane Gov. Cuenco Avenue to six lanes to make it feasible for BRT operations. The BRT has been adopted in some American, Latin American and Asian countries. It involves segregated bus lanes with stations along the routes. The bus lanes are exclusively for the BRT units’ use. It also features pre-board fare collection and fare verification, restricted operator access, and "clean bus" technologies. As an advantage over railways, it can be constructed in 12 to 18 months and costs less. A railway transit, on the other hand, could take three to 30 years to complete and could cost -0 million per kilometer. |
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In my opinion, BRTs first as it is the faster solution to implement, then LRTs, using underground routes in the denser areas, and above grade in suburban areas.
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I think anything that is well planned and feasible for Cebu is always welcomed. All of it will really bring progress in that region.
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๑۩๑ Jan BrixX ๑۩๑
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for long term solution.... i go for subways....
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Is this really true.Is Cebu going to be the first city in the Phil. to have a BRT?WoW!
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Subway and MRT/LRT is just the same principle and system except that one is way above the ground and the other is under the ground. With all the built-up already in Cebu and adjacent areas, it's hard to dig underground for a tunnel and the fact that Cebu sometimes experience trophical storms or rains and can flood certain areas of cebu, it wouldn't be too wise to have subway system. It's much wiser to start with BRT and then progress to a rail system if not LRT/MRT at once. It would be nice to ride on it and see the nice city of Cebu and it's surroundings.
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nag december na wala parin BRT??
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^ As per recent press released, it will be initially implemented early next year.
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Batang Munti
Join Date: Apr 2004
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wow, this is really a good development. I am particularly excited to see the new buses (stairless! like those buses in other countries?). Hopefully this could be a good model for other Philippine cities.
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Bus Rapid Transit
I'm putting up a dedicated Thread for BRT developments in the country. Currently understudy and very likely to follow. The thread is for education, discussion and updating of news and issues regarding BRT or Bus Rapid Transit systems. This is to be differentiated from the Bus Lines Thread which is of terestrial inter and intra city bus services. Anyway a pretty important topic for any big urban center (not only MM) which is looking at Mass Transit Solutions.
from a hundred years hence- http://hundredyearshence.blogspot.com/ 2.26.2008 if you want to know more about brt All About Bus Rapid Transit ![]() This one's for the great folks over at the Philippine Forums of Skyscraper City who are discussing how we put up bus rapid transit in our cities: The Tri-State Transportation Campaign (www.tstc.org) has a great online resource on Bus Rapid Transit (http://www.tstc.org/issues/brt.html) -what it looks like, how it works (in urban and suburban settings). It's a very concise introduction to BRT systems and links to tons of resources. If it's any comfort, the TSTC is also trying to get BRT implemented and expanded in the New York-New Jersey metropolitan area and are working to build up the political will to improve public transit in their megacity. With a hat tip to Streetsblog. brt up close http://hundredyearshence.blogspot.co...n+metro+manila The public transportation system we could have in Metro Manila Here's an even more in depth look at bus rapid transit -how it works and how it is managed, featuring Bogota's Transmilenio. http://www.streetfilms.org/flvplayer.swf http://www.streetfilms.org/archives/...ransit-bogota/[INDENT]Bus Rapid Transit: Bogota image hosted on flickr ![]() The video is from The Oil Drum and was produced by Streetfilms, the same folks who gave you the documentary on Bogota's Ciclovia. Just so you know that BRT systems are not only about improving traffic, but is basically about social justice through efficient transportation, read more about the Transmilenio's impact on the urban poor from the BoP folks in NextBillion. They write: For Enrique Peñalosa, the mayor of Bogotá who drove the initial planning and implementation of Transmilenio, making high quality transportation accessible to Bogotá's low-income population was central to the project. By attacking the public transportation crisis, characterized by "penny wars," gaps in service, unequal pricing, high levels of pollution, and serious traffic congestion, the new BRT system aimed to reduce inequality. This included not only disparities in the quality of transportation services, but also long-term economic and educational inequities perpetuated by a lack of mobility and access between high and low-income areas of the city. [WRI has an interesting feature piece available that also describes the breadth and vision of Peñalosa's urban reform efforts]. Hmmm. So "public transportation crisis" that is characterized by "penny wars, gaps in service, unequal pricing, high levels of pollution, and serious traffic congestion." Does that sound familiar? Some old posts Quote:
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BRT in Beijing Metro Manila may get Bus Rapid Transit Vol. XXI, No. 27 Monday, September 3, 2007 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES The Nation Bus rapid transport system to put order on Metro Manila thorough fares (sic) METRO MANILA may soon put order to its bus system with the Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) considering a bus rapid transit (BRT) system to address congestion. A team of transportation experts early this month completed a pre-feasibility study for a BRT system for the metropolis. The technical working group, chaired by Transportation Undersecretary Anneli R. Lontoc, include representatives from the United States Agency for International Development, University of the Philippines’ National Center for Transportation Studies (NCTS) and nongovernmental group Clean Air Initiative for Asian Cities Center. The BRT system will be similar to the TransMilenio in Bogota, Colombia and TransJakarta in Jakarta, Indonesia, the groups said in a statement. The BRT is a mass transportation system using buses that operate on exclusive lanes with features commonly found in rail systems: pre-boarding fare collection at stations, scheduled trips, and the use of intelligent transport systems such as global positioning system. The project proponents will attempt to combine the advantages of a metro system (exclusive right-of-way improves punctuality and frequency) with the advantages of a bus system (low construction and maintenance costs). And while the system approaches the service quality of rail transit, it still provides the cost savings of bus transit. Last March at the signing of a Metro Manila Declaration for Environmentally Sustainable Transportation, Jose Regin F. Regidor, director of NCTS, had said BRT is "environmentally sustainable transport." It needs to be mainstreamed and not remain as a mere alternative to the current situation, he added. The group said it soon will undertake a full feasibility study of a public BRT system, which would consider how commercial buses fit into the system. The Metropolitan Manila Development Authority is currently implementing an organized bus route system for the metropolis’ 2,000 privately owned buses. BRT systems are widely used in the Latin Americas, the United States, Europe, Australia, and in Asian countries such as China, Thailand, Taiwan and Indonesia. — Maria Kristina C. Conti Quote:
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wow, comprehensive compilation of data....this would address the pollution and transportation woes of big cities like Metro Manila and Cebu. Hope this BRT would be implemented soon. I've seen the Transjakarta and it is successful.
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