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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:16 AM   #301
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:24 AM   #307
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #308
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Regarding your note on efforts to make the city green it certainly is so. Shanghai is without any doubt one of the best cities when it comes to urban green spaces. Perhaps not as great as Shenzhen (which is a new city altogether, hence having advantages in implementing new planning ideas including landscaping) but it is obvious that a lot of money was put into landscaping. Maybe even too much in some situations. Apart from Shenzhen I have never seen a city where so much attention is paid to landscaping and green urban retreats. Moreover, most of them seem to be kept in immaculate condition. This is one of the aspects of Shanghai that impressed me the most besides the skyscrapers and transport infrastructure.

However it is not just Shanghai. Last year I briefly visited Shenzhen and Guangzhou. Shenzhen has a reputation of being a green or park city but Guangzhou is also putting incredible effort to look green and cosy. And with great success to, it seems. Overall it looks like China is paying a lot of attention to urban landscaping and is investing vast amounts of money into it.
I think the excessive greenery is exactly what makes Shanghai a poorly planned city. Instead of having pockets of parks that citizens can actually utilize, they turn the whole damn place into one giant "green" suburb to the point where there are excessive lawns in front of every building. How is this greenery helping anybody? If you're an office worker, the last thing you care about is the useless 50 acre lawn in front of your building. You're upset because you have to walk a mile before you get to any stores and you have to cross a kilometer wide boulevard in front of you just to get to the metro. It is very idealistic and not pragmatic to have so much green space and it obviously was planned by ignorant officials who want to build a "world class city" but have never been to any place outside their home villages.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:48 AM   #309
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I think the excessive greenery is exactly what makes Shanghai a poorly planned city. Instead of having pockets of parks that citizens can actually utilize, they turn the whole damn place into one giant "green" suburb to the point where there are excessive lawns in front of every building. How is this greenery helping anybody? If you're an office worker, the last thing you care about is the useless 50 acre lawn in front of your building. You're upset because you have to walk a mile before you get to any stores and you have to cross a kilometer wide boulevard in front of you just to get to the metro. It is very idealistic and not pragmatic to have so much green space and it obviously was planned by ignorant officials who want to build a "world class city" but have never been to any place outside their home villages.
You must be talking of Pudong. I was referring mostly to Puxi side. However I don't understand this anti-grenery sentiment shown by some. I don't see how cramped and claustrophobic street-level (typical to London, for example) spaces are any good. Or look at some American cities: highrise buildings literally few meters away from each other with no greenery in-between. That is just depressing because the only space you can have is the narrow pedestrian walk and street. That is not bad planning. That is no planning at all. And Shanghai is by no means a poorly planned city. It is, in fact, among the best planned cities in the world alongside the likes of Shenzhen or Singapore. However I have had this discussion so many times that it would be a good idea not to engage into another one.
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Sometimes I find the width of the streets a bit perplexing too. It's like one side of the street is a completely diferent world from the other side, as they're isolated by a river of traffic 100m wide. But I guess with such density it's about a practical thing.

There are streets that look like The Bund, but with cars instead of water.

EDIT: Nevermind, the streets I was thinking about are in new developed areas in Ordos . Probably there are some in Shanghai suburbs, but whatever
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Old December 10th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #311
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Guangqi Park named after Xu Guangqiwho was an important figure and one of the most influential Catholics in early 17th century China
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I shall continue with photos. Still a few of them left

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Park Hotel, one of the main landmarks of Art Deco style in Shanghai. Designed by a renowned Slovakian-Hungarian architect Laszlo Hudec who under tricky and dangerous circumstances ended up in Shanghai and helped to create its modern face back in the 1930's
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