GES | General Santos International Airport

[chevy_boy]

There are no international flights yet at the moment. Merpati opened a GenSan - Manado flight 2 years ago but was suspended due to low traffic.

More infor about the airport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...tional_Airport

[FrancisXavier]

pansin ko lang, walang asphalt overlay ang runway? di kaya masyadong shakey yan para sa taking off/landing plane?

[FrancisXavier]

now, i already know the difference between B747-400 and B747-200.. Thanks to this thread.. lols

[Raven83]

Originally Posted by FrancisXavier

pansin ko lang, walang asphalt overlay ang runway? di kaya masyadong shakey yan para sa taking off/landing plane?

Ang alam ko walang effect yun kasi iba ang standards ng construction for runways. If you're an architect you can get a copy from ATO. I'm not really good at describing runway construction but I guess may certain Psi na sinusunod sa cement runways. Pero ang alam ko sa malalamig na bansa they prefer Asphalt daw kasi mas madali yate yun de-icing process. Where as sa mga tropical country cement runways ang mas preferred...

[FrancisXavier]

eh halos lahat ng major airports sa pinas asphalt.. maliban nalang dito sa GES. ah yeah, sa Laokan Airport din pala sa Baguio.

[WawaY[625]]

di naman, if you look ive seen a site about philippine airports and marami ding concrete ang runway

[FrancisXavier]

i mean major airports.. such as

Manila
Cebu
Davao
Zambo
GES
Clark
ILO
BCD
CGY.

[Raven83]

Originally Posted by FrancisXavier

eh halos lahat ng major airports sa pinas asphalt.. maliban nalang dito sa GES. ah yeah, sa Laokan Airport din pala sa Baguio.

Yu nga nga yung pinagtataka ko eh,I guess we needed a real expert on this one. For one I read in the magazine during the mid 90's.(I was middle school)
That it was the american who build that airport with extra long runway at gen san. Ang alam ko it actually stirred quite a controversy kasi the runway was specifically made to handle a fully loaded C-5 Galaxy daw(for what purpose will the C-5's do in there?,that I dont know ) Pero kung yun nga talaga ang purpose nila it means na mas matibay nga ang cement runways. Pero the Japanese's choice of asphalt in the new airport of Bacolod and Ilo ilo seems to puzzle me except for the fact na baka mas madaling ma prevent ang runway flooding pag asphalt. Kasi ang alam ko during the planning inemphasize yata nila yung flood control systems. But I'm not pretty much sure of this though..Dapat talaga may source...

[chevy_boy]

Air Philippines B737-200 to Cebu and Manila 7/1/2007


PAL A330-300 as PR 454 to Manila 7/1/2007

[habagatcentral1]

Originally Posted by RavenCute

Yu nga nga yung pinagtataka ko eh,I guess we needed a real expert on this one. For one I read in the magazine during the mid 90's.(I was middle school)
That it was the american who build that airport with extra long runway at gen san. Ang alam ko it actually stirred quite a controversy kasi the runway was specifically made to handle a fully loaded C-5 Galaxy daw(for what purpose will the C-5's do in there?,that I dont know ) Pero kung yun nga talaga ang purpose nila it means na mas matibay nga ang cement runways. Pero the Japanese's choice of asphalt in the new airport of Bacolod and Ilo ilo seems to puzzle me except for the fact na baka mas madaling ma prevent ang runway flooding pag asphalt. Kasi ang alam ko during the planning inemphasize yata nila yung flood control systems. But I'm not pretty much sure of this though..Dapat talaga may source...

Because according to rumors that was circulating Gensan, it will be the next Clark Air Base and Glan Sarangani be the next Subic after loosing these 2 vital bases in the early 90's. Majority of the infrastructure projects were done with the assistance of the United States.

[ianers_ianized]

Wow GEN is has a lot of space... this also needs of modern udgrading and a whole new airport building to keep up with the modernization of all airports in our country.

[Rajah_Soliman]

simple lang oy... ang 200 pisot and 400 tuli

Originally Posted by FrancisXavier

now, i already know the difference between B747-400 and B747-200.. Thanks to this thread.. lols

[amras]

Originally Posted by FrancisXavier

pansin ko lang, walang asphalt overlay ang runway? di kaya masyadong shakey yan para sa taking off/landing plane?

got this from this website: http://www.rinkermaterials.com/Prods...Highways.shtml

Benefits of Concrete Pavement Highways & Airports


Strength & Durability: Concrete pavements withstand heavier loads with minimal deformation. Unlike asphalt pavements, concrete pavements do not react or deteriorate with petroleum products, and their strength is not reduced by heat and moisture. Concrete pavements are more durable even under extreme element conditions such as flooding, hurricanes and fires.

Cooler Environment: Concrete pavements are a key element of the "Cool Communities Movement"; concrete surfaces can be 30°F to 70°F cooler than asphalt surfaces. Use of concrete pavements reduces ground level ozone, VOC emissions and the Urban Heat Island Effect.

Life Cycle Cost: Long-term costs to maintain concrete pavements are typically lower than the costs associated wiht periodical resurfacing required to maintain asphalt pavements.

[chevy_boy]

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...tional_Airport

General Santos has a single 3,227-meter (10,587-foot) runway running at 17°/35°. The airport's runway is the second-longest runway of any airport in the Philippines, second to Runway 06/24 of Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

[kiretoce]

Elephants at war

MANILA, Philippines -- The international airport in General Santos City, completed in 1998, was built with US aid -- altogether, about $50 million worth of official, forward-looking charity. The airport is designed to accommodate the world’s biggest and heaviest airplanes, and much more traffic than it actually bears. In the decade since it opened for business, the massive but underused facility has prompted many to ask: Is the airport, in fact, a white elephant?

Wrong image. As a recent report by Focus on the Global South serialized in the Inquirer reminds us, the question all this time should have been: Is the airport a sign that the elephant is back in the room?

Often, the uses and advantages of the General Santos airport are discussed through the prism of business, such as the prospects of tourism or the requirements of domestic travel. The report, however, details the new US policy on maintaining a global military presence -- thus restoring the proper context for discussing the airport’s true uses and advantages: American military presence in the Philippines.

The facility has the look and heft of a military base because, in a crisis, the US military can turn it into one. (The airport is connected to a deep-water port by a robust road system, both built, like the airport itself, through official development assistance.)

By redefining the meaning of a military base, and by rethinking its requirements for maintaining a global military posture, the United States has employed a new strategy that is not only cost-effective but also host-friendly. In countries like the Philippines, where resistance to foreign military presence or new military bases begins with provisions in the fundamental law, the new US strategy allows the Pentagon, in cooperation with a willing host government, to avoid constitutional stumbling blocks.

The report quotes a US Navy admiral as saying: “We don’t want to be stepping all over our host nations. We want to exist in a very non-intrusive way.”

The report details how the US military inserts itself into a host nation in a very non-intrusive way. “First, the United States has stepped up deploying troops, ships, and equipment to the country ostensibly for training exercises, humanitarian and engineering projects, and other missions.”

In 2006, under the aegis of the Visiting Forces Agreement, some 37 exercises were scheduled. This is up at least threefold from the average of 10 to 12 that the Department of Foreign Affairs reported on its website.

The “repeated and regular” schedule of exercises allows the United States to gain what the chief of the US Pacific Command described as the prize as far back as 2003: “Access over time can develop into habitual use of certain facilities by deployed US forces with the eventual goal of being guaranteed use in a crisis, or permission to pre-position logistics stocks and other critical material in strategic forward locations.”

To be sure, no one in the US military would identify the Philippines as a strategic forward location, at least not officially and not to Philippine media. But as another report by Focus on the Global South reveals, internal documents or studies and journals circulated within the US military candidly and explicitly characterize the mission of US forces visiting the Philippines as “conducting unconventional warfare.”

The second mode of non-intrusive insertion is obliging the host nation “to provide it with a broad range of services that would enable it to launch and sustain operations from the Philippines when necessary.”

The third way is establishing a new kind of facility called Cooperative Security Locations (CSLs). “In August 2005 the official commission tasked with reviewing US basing, categorically identified the Philippines as one of the countries where CSLs were being developed by the United States in the region,” the report said.

Lastly: stationing a US military unit in the country indefinitely -- exactly like the Joint Special Operations Task Force-Philippines, based these last six years in Zamboanga City.

These four modes may be non-intrusive, but together they undermine the Constitution itself. Constitutional resistance to foreign military presence, however, is not an outright ban; allowing foreign troops into the country is politically difficult, but not impossible. If the Arroyo administration believes a semi-permanent presence of US forces is in the nation’s best interests, why not bring everything out into the open?

[tough]

Originally Posted by chevy_boy

http://www.ato.gov.ph/web/airports.htm

An International Airport with International Standards.... The official name of this airport according to ATO is General Santos International Airport... Classified as an Alternate International Airport and one of the 8 (eight) International Airports in the Philippines.

Just like the u/c Laguindingan Airport?

[WawaY[625]]

Originally Posted by tough

Just like the u/c Laguindingan Airport?

as LADP_infodesk said, laguindingan is a domestic airport

[tough]

Domestic Airport with International Standards right?

[WawaY[625]]

yeah, international standards but an airport of international standards doesnt mean international airport na siya, maybe pasado sa international standard for domestic flights? or nasa international standards yung mga navigational equipment nya

And the terminal isnt designed to accomodate international flights (yung layout kumbaga)

if you look at NBSA and NIA walang separate areas like check in, arrival and mga support areas for international flight like customs etc

[tough]

Thanks for clarifying @WawaY[625]