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Old January 21st, 2013, 09:44 PM   #1
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MISC | Gentrification in Your Cities

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Gentrification is a dynamic that emerges in poor urban areas when residential shifts, urban planning, and other phenomena affect the composition of a neighborhood
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Old January 21st, 2013, 11:05 PM   #2
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BUENOS AIRES - Neighborhood: Puerto Madero

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:14 AM   #3
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The definition from Wikipedia is, actually, not very good. The most important thing is that it affects inner cities of metropoles, where the social structure of neighborhood is changing. What's true, that it affects working class, which is changed by middle and upper class. The most important reason, in my opinion, are not investments to urban renewal, but rent gap or new lifestyle of such social groups. Those urban renewal projects are more a consequence of gentrification.

The most widely used examples of gentrified neighborhoods by important authors are Greenwich Village in NYC, Society Hill in Philadelphia or West End in London.

Anyway, thanks for this thread! I was thinking about creating it, because gentrification is theme of my diploma work!
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:27 AM   #4
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The definition from Wikipedia is, actually, not very good. The most important thing is that it affects inner cities of metropoles, where the social structure of neighborhood is changing. What's true, that it affects working class, which is changed by middle and upper class. The most important reason, in my opinion, are not investments to urban renewal, but rent gap or new lifestyle of such social groups. Those urban renewal projects are more a consequence of gentrification.

The most widely used examples of gentrified neighborhoods by important authors are Greenwich Village in NYC, Society Hill in Philadelphia or West End in London.

Anyway, thanks for this thread! I was thinking about creating it, because gentrification is theme of my diploma work!
Wow Awesome! Feel free to post any info you like I thought we needed a gentrification thread.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:47 AM   #5
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I want to add one of the most prominent things of gentrification:

People move! The poor get pushed out and the rich take their place. The poor will have to find other places.

Btw, gentrification can also go the other way: Poor push the rich away in wich case the district gets worse. In Brussels you can see both forms only few blocks away from eachother.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:27 PM   #6
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Woodstock in Cape Town, South Africa, is currently experiencing gentrification at a steady place. The area has become a popular location for art galleries, cafe's/restaurants, trendy apartments, offices for the likes of architecture firms and other creative companies etc. In other words, it's hipster central. It's located on the border of the CBD, so its convenient location has slowly led to the poor being pushed out of the suburb.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 12:54 PM   #7
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I think the process of gentrification operates on a feedback loop. Re-shaping and reconstructing buildings and infrastructure is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for mode structural demographics changes in a certain area.

What I like about gentrification is that is usually cleans up not only the buildings, but rotten social structures or demographics, such as ghettos, areas where the police "doesn't dare to enter without caution" etc.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:16 PM   #8
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I think the process of gentrification operates on a feedback loop. Re-shaping and reconstructing buildings and infrastructure is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for mode structural demographics changes in a certain area.

What I like about gentrification is that is usually cleans up not only the buildings, but rotten social structures or demographics, such as ghettos, areas where the police "doesn't dare to enter without caution" etc.
It doesn cleans them up, it replaces them to somewhere else...
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It doesn cleans them up, it replaces them to somewhere else...
Not exactly, josham.

I believe sometimes bad neighborhoods are bad not only because of the individuals that live there and the condition of their buildings, but because of root social dynamics that develop there. That is especially the case where you have a mix of gangs with local control over shoddy businesses, community leaders that pander to them and ethnic tensios. If you scatter the population, each one goes live somewhere else and you destroy the social engines that wer part of the problem.

I think this is what helped NYC, for instance, with the progressive dismantling of the social fabric of problematic communities. It didn't solve all problems, but some, for those displaced (including breaking a generations-long cycle of local thuggery).,
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:21 PM   #10
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But in most cases that's not what happens.

In most cases a neighborhood suddenly becomes attractive because industry moves away or yuppies like the old fashioned style of the neighborhood or whatever.

What happens next is that rent prices wil go up, the people living in the neighborhood can't pay those high rents so they have to move out, richer people move in, buildings get restored and again well kept afther, the city makes sure the streets look good again but the people that where living there just moved to another part of city and in most cases are still concentrated.

An example of this can be found in Brussels where the east of the city core used (within the pentagon) to be mainly Turkish/Moroc. The area started gentrifying, pushing them towards the channel Charlerloi-Brussels. Today the channel is alos gentrifying pushing them further east into Sint-jans-Molenbeek. People that were living in Sint-jans-Molenbeek now go away because crime skyrockets, shops close,....the rent drops even more, even more poor get concentrated because that district is the only one they can actually pay rent in...

Your ideal immage is not what gentrification in most cases is. There are always displaced people in the process and poor people still go live concentrated in places where rent is low taking the crime and gang activity with them.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 07:23 PM   #11
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But doesn't Belgium have a lot of social housing like Netherlands?
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East Nashville is the big gentrification area of Nashville, Starkville is too small
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But doesn't Belgium have a lot of social housing like Netherlands?
Nope, actually not, at least not like The Netherlands.
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Nope, actually not, at least not like The Netherlands.
Here in the Netherlands 30% of the population lives on social housing and around 25% get housing subsidy (which can be used to pay part of social housing costs)
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Here in the Netherlands 30% of the population lives on social housing and around 25% get housing subsidy (which can be used to pay part of social housing costs)
Numbers of 2007:

Belgium total: 6,2%
Flanders: 5,4%
Wallonia: 7%
Brussels: 7,7%

from: http://www.armoedebestrijding.be/cij...uisvesting.htm

Belgium is totally differend compaired to the Netherlands. The number of home owners is twice a high here. Outside city centers, rentals are pretty much non-existant.
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And its much lower than that here in the US I believe
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East Nashville

This area used to be very dangerous in the 80's and 90's. Carjackings, Muggings, and Homicides were very common. In the late 90's gentrification began to restore the area and today is an artisan community with stellar views of Nashville's skyline.



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Old February 3rd, 2013, 02:31 AM   #18
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When you say 'artisan community' do you refer to the inhabitants and their jobs and businesses or to the craftsmanship with which the neighbourhood was built/renovated? (Just wondering as I'm not native in English.)
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When you say 'artisan community' do you refer to the inhabitants and their jobs and businesses or to the craftsmanship with which the neighbourhood was built/renovated? (Just wondering as I'm not native in English.)
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 07:36 AM   #20
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Get a poor area, fill it with gays, then all the trendy people will start moving in, pushing the gays to the next suburb to be gentrified. That's usually how it happens.

The poor just get pushed further and further towards the periphery.
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