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Old June 5th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #61
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That is the kind of architecture I'd love to see in Toronto! I'm sure some people won't like it, but it is thought provoking architecture that even the kind of person who doesn't give a rats arse about architecture would have an opinion about.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #62
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The models have nothing to do with the floorplans.I guess it will end up being more linear overall.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 03:16 AM   #63
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #64
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Running with scissors...

More Grief for Mirvish/Gehry



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Mirvish King West plan needs changes, planner says; Jennifer Keesmaat cites 'scale and massing' of condo towers as concerns

CBC News Posted: Dec 16, 2013 12:40 PM ET| Last Updated: Dec 16, 2013 3:04 PM ET

The city's chief planner says David Mirvish's plan to bring three massive condo towers to King Street West must be scaled back before she can support the project.

The controversial plan involves demolishing the Princess of Wales Theatre and four heritage warehouse buildings to make way for three high rise condos designed by renowned architect Frank Gehry. Each of the towers would stand more than 80 storeys and be located on the north side of King Street West just east of John Street.

The plan has raised concerns about neighbourhood congestion, particularly for transit users who already struggle to squeeze aboard the King streetcar during rush hour.

City staff rejected the proposal in its current form, a decision theatre impresario Mirvish has appealed to the Ontario Municipal Board. The proposal will be up for debate at Monday's council meeting, with staff seeking direction about how the city should respond to the OMB appeals.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #65
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Jennifer Keesmaat is a small town girl with provincial ideas. Why she was hired as the chief planner of a big city is beyond belief. She's the problem, not this proposal. It's time she step aside so the city can reach its potential.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 11:51 PM   #66
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you are oversimplifying the issue to the extreme. you fail to realize that this project goes against almost every single planning bylaw this city has, which have been meticulously set up over the last decade through plenty of public consultation and council votes. It also heavily goes across major planning principals, with FAR ratios well above what is considered a maximum reasonable limit, shadowing (though I know you don't much care for that, and neither do I truthfully), and just general bad planning. While this project gives vision, I don't feel it is a project that is approvable in its current state. It is possible to approve it while it still has vision, but the current rendition is a little misguided.
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Old December 19th, 2013, 04:06 AM   #67
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Too much politics in this city, hence why nothing gets done.

Council voted against this proposal, so it looks as if it's going to the Ontario Municipal Board which, might I add, many councillors want abolished.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 01:31 AM   #68
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you are oversimplifying the issue to the extreme. you fail to realize that this project goes against almost every single planning bylaw this city has, which have been meticulously set up over the last decade through plenty of public consultation and council votes. It also heavily goes across major planning principals, with FAR ratios well above what is considered a maximum reasonable limit, shadowing (though I know you don't much care for that, and neither do I truthfully), and just general bad planning. While this project gives vision, I don't feel it is a project that is approvable in its current state. It is possible to approve it while it still has vision, but the current rendition is a little misguided.
You're making a lot of assumptions about what I know and what I don't know. I'm aware of everything you've mentioned. It's plain to me (and others) that the current bylaws are woefully inadequate, out of date, and are doing more to tie a noose around this city's neck than anything else. It's almost commonplace that a proposal massively shoots past what the regulations allow. How on earth are they meaningful any more? They're NOT!

Too many people seem to think that the regulations we have are gospel when it's the regulations that are the problem. They speak to a very rigid idea of what Toronto should be and, quite frankly, I never agreed with them. City planners should be feverishly working on new regulations that will serve Toronto for the next 10 years rather than blindly following rules that make little sense.

Keesmaat is just another in a long line of people who tow the line rather than recognizing that this city is morphing into a vastly different city than it was. We need people who are capable of recognizing where Toronto is going not people who want it to remain 2005 forever. Btw, City Council is stocked with a bunch of dinosaurs for the most part.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 01:34 AM   #69
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You realize those are conceptual and it's Gehry? People either love Gehry designs (Bilbao Guggenheim) or they hate them. I take it you're in the 2nd camp.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 02:53 AM   #71
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So here's the redesign - we've lost a tower - but gained height on the taller tower to 304.3m (so close to 1000 feet)

Second building is 82 storeys





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Old May 28th, 2014, 02:58 AM   #72
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Excellent news! Will move this one up!
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Old May 28th, 2014, 03:07 AM   #73
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I kind of expected the towers to be "dumbed" down. Not too happy with the way they look now - definitely a downward spiral in terms of architecture. I am happy with the height, but still - I fear there will be more "dumbing down" of the towers once they hit the market.

Finally, a supertall for Toronto - about damn time!

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Old May 28th, 2014, 03:33 AM   #74
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Yep, for the tallest tower, Gehry essentially flaired a conventional box while the shorter tower shows much more verve. Hopefully the taller one will get a bit more plastic since that's Gehry's schtick...and TO is his home town after all...
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could someone rename the title from "Projectcore" to "Mirvish+Gehry Toronto"?

Thats the official project name as of right now.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 05:11 AM   #76
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Yep, for the tallest tower, Gehry essentially flaired a conventional box while the shorter tower shows much more verve. Hopefully the taller one will get a bit more plastic since that's Gehry's schtick...and TO is his home town after all...
The compromise design is still nice, but what a let down. He gave us a masterpiece, a gift, and we let a rule book trump common sense. Shame on you Toronto.

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A couple more shots of Mirvish+Gehry from SLOCRO at Urban Toronto:





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Old May 28th, 2014, 05:51 AM   #78
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I'm curious to see some renders, expecially about that "waterscape" feature on the tallest tower.
If you ask me, these buildings are better looking than those three sore thumbs incoherent proposals we got early.
I love how they met the CN Tower in this pic:

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Old May 28th, 2014, 08:01 AM   #79
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The staggered height is the only thing I like better with this re-work. It's lost a lot of architectural detail, the towers don't flow as well, and the podium is nowhere near as cohesive. This is down a number of notches from the original. I'm hoping for a 3rd revision back to the original concept:

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Facade looks a bit like Beekman's Place from NYC.
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