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Old April 1st, 2013, 11:20 PM   #381
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Well, this year's Easter is almost gone, but I've come across a few occasional pics from the Interwar period.

Palm Sunday, Kraków 1927



Palm Sunday, Myślenice (southern Poland) 1934




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These and other interesting pics can be found on a Facebook page dedicated to the 2nd Polish Republic (Interwar Poland): http://www.facebook.com/pages/II-Rze...79667668730827
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 07:42 AM   #382
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Katsuma - I'm not on a facebook and I'm not gonna be there so request is - if there is any chance to post a picture(s) just post it down here please.
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You don't need to be a registered user to view a Facebook page, I think. Just click on the above link to find out.
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 03:09 PM   #384
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I'm in Brazil right now and wi-fi net I've got access to is so f..d up that I am not able to open linked pages.
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Not sure where to stick this so I will stick it here.

Malbork after the war (1947). It pains me to see this. Those barbarians!!
Malbork is the worlds biggest brick castle fortress.





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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:11 AM   #386
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Not sure where to share this so I will share it here. Something I saw on Facebook today.



“He who does not work, does not eat” April 13, 1940: The second wave of Soviet expulsions against Polish civilians forcibly deports 340,000 people from their homes following the Soviet invasion. These exiles were the families of previously arrested political prisoners—mostly women, children, and the elderly. They endured a frightening journey in cattle cars to Siberia and Central Asia, where they were supposed survive in the barren steppes. Some sources estimate up to 1.5 million Polish citizens were deported by the Soviet Union in 1940, and anywhere between 15%-50% of these deportees perished.

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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:39 AM   #387
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Horrible, I think the higher number most likely perished, they wanted to eradicate the very DNA of Polish intelligentsia and nationalism.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 07:41 AM   #388
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Horrible, I think the higher number most likely perished, they wanted to eradicate the very DNA of Polish intelligentsia and nationalism.
Is this figure included in the 5.5 million Poles that died in WW2?

By the way I met an elderly woman in Toronto who survived Siberia. She looked in quite good shape too. You would never guess she lived through such an event.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 04:18 PM   #389
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Is this figure included in the 5.5 million Poles that died in WW2?
not 5.5 million Poles but 5.5 million Polish citizens (including Jews). So the number of Poles killed could be around 2.6 million (which is still a huge number)
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Old April 17th, 2013, 07:08 PM   #390
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Not sure where to share this so I will share it here. Something I saw on Facebook today.

“He who does not work, does not eat” April 13, 1940: The second wave of Soviet expulsions against Polish civilians forcibly deports 340,000 people from their homes following the Soviet invasion. These exiles were the families of previously arrested political prisoners—mostly women, children, and the elderly. They endured a frightening journey in cattle cars to Siberia and Central Asia, where they were supposed survive in the barren steppes. Some sources estimate up to 1.5 million Polish citizens were deported by the Soviet Union in 1940, and anywhere between 15%-50% of these deportees perished.
In four waves of deportation approx. 330-360 thousand citizens of Polish Second Republic were expelled (Feb 40: 140k, mostly settlers and forest inspectorate employees, Apr 40: 60k, mostly families of people murdered in the Katyn Masssacre, Jun 40: 80k, mostly refugees from Nazi-occupied part of Poland, mostly of Jewish origins, May-Jun 41: 50-80k different social groups including stamp collectors, esperantists and prostitutes).

It is estimated that over 20 thousand of them died, mostly people from terrible "Winter Deportation" from Feb 40, transported in the extremely bad conditions (temperature below -30 centigrade, blizzards, etc).

1,5 million is based on war estimates, which were long time ago proved to be inaccurate. It is really a pity that this information still proliferates over the Internet
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In four waves of deportation approx. 330-360 thousand citizens of Polish Second Republic were expelled (Feb 40: 140k, mostly settlers and forest inspectorate employees, Apr 40: 60k, mostly families of people murdered in the Katyn Masssacre, Jun 40: 80k, mostly refugees from Nazi-occupied part of Poland, mostly of Jewish origins, May-Jun 41: 50-80k different social groups including stamp collectors, esperantists and prostitutes).

It is estimated that over 20 thousand of them died, mostly people from terrible "Winter Deportation" from Feb 40, transported in the extremely bad conditions (temperature below -30 centigrade, blizzards, etc).

1,5 million is based on war estimates, which were long time ago proved to be inaccurate. It is really a pity that this information still proliferates over the Internet
What did they have against stamp collectors?
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What did they have against stamp collectors?
I guess that stamp collectors form large inter-border society, they correspond between each other, they swap their marks, they are kind of people for whom borders does not exist. Like SSC society, to some degree

No doubt they can be troublemakers or spies, according to Soviet secret police. I would like to remind that receiving a sole letter from abroad (or having relatives abroad) was a 'reason' for being prosecuted in a paranoic Soviet empire under Joseph Stalin. That's why all the members of international societies had to go.

It would probably explain the rage against esperantists, as well.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 01:43 AM   #393
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It would probably explain the rage against esperantists, as well.
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Ludwig Lazarus Zamenhof - the creator of Esperanto

( Born on December 15, 1859 in Białystok – died on April 14, 1917 in Warsaw)

L. Zamenhof's grave at Okopowa Street Jewish Cemetery in Warsaw

author: Hĺkan Henriksson

Esperanto society of Kraków in 1933

http://www.nac.gov.pl/

Esperanto language course in Kraków

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World Congress of Esperanto in Kraków (1931)

http://www.nac.gov.pl/

Esperanto society of Białystok - Jakub Szapiro and Abraham Zbar ( 1930s)
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Old April 18th, 2013, 02:53 PM   #394
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Łódź, II Polish repuplic´s second largest city

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Plac Wolnosci - Freedom square

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/233/233038.jpg


http://fotopolska.eu/foto/379/379883.jpg

Piotrkowska (Main boulevard) on may 3 (constitution day)

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/259/259065.jpg


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Demonstration for polish overseas colonies

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/232/232696.jpg


http://fotopolska.eu/foto/227/227095.jpg


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Narutowicz street

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...41148043_n.jpg

Tuwim street

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...92841504_n.jpg

Kosciuszko avenue

http://www.fotopolska.eu/foto/126/126437.jpg

Great synagogue in Lodz

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Interior:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...a_wew_Lodz.jpg

Wolborska street (No longer exists, part of the Old town park)

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Orthodox synagogue Alte Szil in Wolborska street

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/213/213733.jpg


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http://fotopolska.eu/foto/102/102690.jpg

Old market square in Lodz, none of the buildings exists

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/142/142536.jpg


http://fotopolska.eu/foto/16/16035.jpg

Ogrodowa street with Poznanski palace

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/13/13769.jpg

Railway stations in Lodz (Fabryczna and Kaliska)

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/261/261216.jpg

Juliusz Heinzel Palace in Northern Lodz (Willa district Julianow), Destroyed september 1939

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/384/384850.jpg


http://fotopolska.eu/foto/106/106136.jpg


http://boreksadlak.zapto.org/var/alb...g?m=1362322843

Lodz, the polish Manchester.

http://fotopolska.eu/foto/12/12981.jpg
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when and why was the Lodz old town market destroyed. More than 90% of Lodz was intact after the war overall.
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Litzmannstadt Ghetto was placed there because old town was inhabited mostly by Jews.
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Catholic Church of St. Mary of the Perpetual Assistance, Tarnopol/Ternopil (built by Teodor Talowski, demolished in 1954 )






Adam Mickiewicz Monument in Tarnopol/Ternopil


Jozef Pilsudski Monument in Tarnopol/Ternopil


Of course, monuments were destroyed as well. I wish to see more so nicely designed monuments in today's Poland!!
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The Holy Trinity Collegiate Church in Olyka




Now: link1, link2 (neglected like most Catholic churches in Ukraine)
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St. Mary's Church, Grodno (now Belarus, church was demolished in 1961)


Basilian Church, Berezwecz (now Belarus, church was demolished in 1970)


Church was reconstructed in 1991-1996 in Bialystok (Poland)




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Żółkiew (now Zhovkva, Ukraine); city was founded by Stanisław Żółkiewski


Graves of members of Żółkiewski family in Church of St. Lawrence in Żółkiew...
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