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Old January 17th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #661
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From what I recall Poznan still looks very much like it did prewar, the old town has seen changes where most of the destruction occurred.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #662
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From what I recall Poznan still looks very much like it did prewar, the old town has seen changes where most of the destruction occurred.
Indeed. The parts that changed the most are the Old Market, the Swiety-Marcinstreet, the East of Poznan with the beautiful Chwaliszewo which was heavily damaged and the area of the citadel.

Some comparisons:

Old Market
Before the war:


(The big building, the new City Hall, was completely destroyed and replaced with the middle-aged Waga (city scale) after the war)


1945:




Now:



Tower on the International Fair
Destroyed


Citadel



Chwaliszewo

Pre-war:





1945:



Now:



Swiety-Marcin

Pre-war:




1945:




Now:



Emperor's castly

Pre-war:




1945:



Now:


In total 20% of the buildings was destroyed. 50% of the city center was destroyed, 90% damaged.

The old districts Jeżyce (West), Łazarz (South), Wilda (South) and Sołacz (West) were not badly damaged.

The city center was relatively quickly captured, though after heavy fights. My grandmother, who lived on the Old Market in the building that is now the museum of Architecture, was expelled and lived near Swiety Marcin street. She told me how they were fleeing the house when the buildings on the street started to collapse after the heavy artillery. The Russians used Katyusha's inside the city, causing heavy damage.

The second phase of the Battle of Poznan was the very heavy fight for the citadel. The Germans paid heavy resistance. Many Polish citizens were forced by the Russians to participate in the battle and the many frontal attacks. One of them was my grand-grandfather, who was wounded in the battle and died March 8th, a few days after the city was liberated.

In total 10.000 Russians, 700 Polish soldiers or forced civilians, 6000 Germans and 100 Hungarians were killed in action. The battle took place from January 24th to February 23th.
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #663
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Thanks for that information JanVL, very interesting for me to see what condition Poznan was in when my mother's family was transferred from former eastern Poland to Poznan post-war. From what she told me it was because there was still a good supply of useable housing in the city unlike Warsaw where my grandfather's family perished and there was virtually nothing. She got a housing unit on Jackowskiego Street after a few years.

She actually was an economist with the housing ministry and was involved in the planning of new housing and restoration of existing stock. She really loved Poznan and always regretted leaving, never got used to Canada sadly. May your great-grandfather and all those who died in that stupid war rest in peace. Pozdrawiam
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Old January 17th, 2014, 10:26 PM   #664
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A few more images from 1945 and 1965: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...36&postcount=1

Tarnopol, now Ukraine


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Old January 18th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #665
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Thanks for that information JanVL, very interesting for me to see what condition Poznan was in when my mother's family was transferred from former eastern Poland to Poznan post-war. From what she told me it was because there was still a good supply of useable housing in the city unlike Warsaw where my grandfather's family perished and there was virtually nothing. She got a housing unit on Jackowskiego Street after a few years.

She actually was an economist with the housing ministry and was involved in the planning of new housing and restoration of existing stock. She really loved Poznan and always regretted leaving, never got used to Canada sadly. May your great-grandfather and all those who died in that stupid war rest in peace. Pozdrawiam
Jackowskiego Street is in the Jezyce district, so same story as with my grandmother and her parents . They got a house in the Jezycka street, since in the Western part of the city many houses were indeed empty or survived the battle.

I would love to be able to spend just one day in pre-war Poznan, on many pictures it looks amazing, especially since some places still need to be revitalised badly, and then looked great.

But if I look at my pictures from 2004 and look at how Poznan is now - you can apply this virtually in all of Poland - it is amazing how things have changed, luckily.

Pozdrawiam and I hope that you visit our beautiful city once again

To keep the thread rich, still some pre-war Poznan pictures

Central-Station


West-Station


Fara-Church and monastery


Autumn of the People Square


Mickiewicza and Poznanska (in the back) streets (The round building in the street was a circus that still stood there till the 80/90's, the big building next to it is a hospital. The big building on the horizon is the Zeppelinhall, build by the Germans for the large Zeppelins, it stood there until destroyed in the war.)


Zeppelinhall


Marcinkowskiego Avenue


Wielkopolski Square



When the city was still laying at the water...


Statue of the Gratitude to Jesus for the Independent Poland - blown up by the Germans the first day they arrived - Funds are being raised to rebuild it, but it will probably stand at the Malta lake
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Lot of fugly looking stuff on the right side of that street now. The last visible building on the left side of the street looks pretty bad too

Sad.
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Meh....could be worse. Have seen worse.
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Meh....could be worse. Have seen worse.
And that's the really sad part. That there is so much that is as bad or worse to be seen in postwar Europe
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Lot of fugly looking stuff on the right side of that street now. The last visible building on the left side of the street looks pretty bad too

Sad.
Luckily the building on the left has been renovated last month and is now white. The Alma-towers on the right need new glass, one has been renovated, but not in the style of the others. Maybe once..

Luckily the street will be revitalised over the next years, together with its parallel street, 27th of Decemberstreet for the Greater-Poland Uprising, which will become a pedestratrian only street.

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Still a last load of pictures I found of Poznan

Cathedral


Library


Old Square



Swiety Marcin


The tower of the Saint-Martin Church that didn't survive 1945


Statue for the gratitude for the Independence of Poland


27th Decemberstreet


The same spot now, I had to show this comparison


Polwiejska nowadays (The church was destroyed, as well as the beautiful kamienica on the left)
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Warsaw and Drohobycz (now Ukraine)


Warsaw (project by Zygmunt Plater-Zyberk)


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In addition to the post #644, Polesian folk...


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too bad that church wasn't rebuilt.
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too bad that church wasn't rebuilt.
on the right it is not same church?
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No, it's another one. I didn't know there was a church there before, but I found this pic by accident this week of the old church.

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Old January 29th, 2014, 06:02 AM   #680
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on the right it is not same church?
it looks like there were two churches here before war, the demolished one was halfway on the road it looks like and now the road Is wider. shame it couldn't be rebuilt, wonder if anyone knows the name of it from pre-war period and when it was built?
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