Poland in the Interbellum (1918-39)

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Oil rafinery Polmin (one of the largest rafineries in Europe, in late 1930s employed around 3000 people)

[Urbanista1]

Originally Posted by Varsben

What do you mean exactly?

more non-Poles or new immigrants will make up the population as well as non-Christians. I think we will eventually see in-migration from other more densely populated western European countries, probably more Ukrainians, Belarusians, Asians etc. - Poland has lots of room, arable land, energy sources and fresh water supplies. Last few years lots of Chinese have arrived which I see everywhere in Poland, and they are very good at finding and creating jobs, as in Canada. Also, small numbers of Dutch have already begun buying up farmland. Don't forget, immigrants actually create jobs rather than take jobs and they also create demand.

Given lower birth rates and emigration of last several years POland may encounter fiscal problems and growth slow downs due to shrinking active labour force, especially once this endless world crisis ends. the government has already begun to develop a comprehensive immigration policy. This is another reason why government recently increased retirement age, older people will have to work longer to make up for any shortfall in skilled labour.

I think diversity will be good for Poland, will boost productivity as natives compete with usually much more motivated immigrants for jobs etc and may even help root out some of our cultural pathologies.

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

thanks for taking the effort to find these pics in archives, no small feat, but very edifying. this is a world I only heard about, images are very evocative of what it must have been like.

You're welcome. And there will be much more.

BTW, I'd encourage everyone, who is interested in taking a look back at this period, to use great facility offered by the Polish National Digital Archive.

If you run a search by the phrase e.g. "stanisławowskie", you'll be able to view much more pics than I posted here (celebration of national holidays, military parades, sport events, etc).

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

more non-Poles or new immigrants will make up the population as well as non-Christians. I think we will eventually see in-migration from other more densely populated western European countries, probably more Ukrainians, Belarusians, Asians etc. - Poland has lots of room, arable land, energy sources and fresh water supplies.

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Not sure about fresh water supplies...

But anyways, I believe the biggest challenge for Poland now is the exchange and development of the society as a whole. I think that it'll have to get worse, before it gets better.

[Urbanista1]

Poland needs to invest more in people that's for sure, don;t see need for it to get worse, gradual evolution reform Poland is now embarked on is ok, though it really should go faster...but you know the bureacracy

[Gatsby]

Originally Posted by katsuma

You're welcome. And there will be much more.

BTW, I'd encourage everyone, who is interested in taking a look back at this period, to use great facility offered by the Polish National Digital Archive.

If you run a search by the phrase e.g. "stanisławowskie", you'll be able to view much more pics than I posted here (celebration of national holidays, military parades, sport events, etc).

the pictures come mostly from the archives of "Ilustrowany Kurier Codzienny", the biggest Polish daily in the interwar period, published in Krakow.

most editions of IKC (as well as "Czas") have been made available by Malopolska Biblioteka Cyfrowa. I strongly recommend this feature.

http://mbc.malopolska.pl/dlibra/news?news=full

BTW., IKC was seated in this grand building called the Palace of the Press...

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa%C5%8...asy_w_Krakowie











that's how the interior looks today...

http://www.abb.pl/cawp/seitp202/6653...500433629.aspx

well, the old lifts used to be more elegant...

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

Poland needs to invest more in people that's for sure, don;t see need for it to get worse, gradual evolution reform Poland is now embarked on is ok, though it really should go faster...but you know the bureacracy

Well, I think that economic crisis may often be a driver of changes for better, as political class and state officials tend not to put through unpopular measures, unless they're forced to. It may've not been necessarily a good thing for the country that Poland remained a "green island" of economic growth in 2008-09 (consequences of the lack of reforms back then will be borne today & tomorrow).

Look how it's perceived e.g. in Sweden (an article from today's Rzeczpospolita): "Swedes apply a rule that the deeper an economic crisis is, the easier is to restructure the economy for a more competitive one."

And by speaking about the exchange and development of the Polish society, I meant that the issues, which IMO may be a significant obstacle for Poland's further development, i.e. the level of social mistrust, dishonesty and lack of the willingness for cooperation. That is partially a legacy of the socialism era, but it's been more than 20 years now since it collapsed, so we can't be putting the blame purely on that.

Ok, enough off-topic from my side. I'll post some further pics later on today.

[Urbanista1]

Originally Posted by katsuma

And by speaking about the exchange and development of the Polish society, I meant that the issues, which IMO may be a significant obstacle for Poland's further development, i.e. the level of social mistrust, dishonesty and lack of the willingness for cooperation. That is partially a legacy of the socialism era, but it's been more than 20 years now since it collapsed, so we can't be putting the blame purely on that.

Ok, enough off-topic from my side. I'll post some further pics later on today.

I very strongly agree with this. There are some cultural problems that became rooted in communist era that need healing, and maybe here is where immigration and return of some ex-pats could help, bringing in people without the baggage. Kaczynski has been a very divisive force who has been single-handedly reawakening Poland's demons, economic uncertainty of last few years has also stirred up the latent paranoias and fears of a populace that has already been through too much. Once he is gone, asap, the political scene will improve and trickle down to society. zgoda buduje is so true, sorry can't help being partisan

For me, I would like to see Poles have more compassion for each other, greater feeling of solidarity and moral support, Poles in Poland and outside, supporting each other instead of bashing and trashing, obgadywac i robienie na zlosc itd.

a lot of deep reforms are taking place though, just have to await passage through Sejm, if all goes well.

[katsuma]

Tarnopol (now Ternopil in Ukraine)
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Tarnopol Castle in 1929 (destroyed during WW1 and reconstructed until 1931)

[katsuma]

Tarnopol [cont.]
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Railway station with a banner advertising the regional agricultural exhibition in Tarnopol, July 1931



Agricultural exhibition, the forestry & hunting pavilion, July 1931



Craftsman pavilion



Student rowing pier



Snow clearing of railway tracks on the line Lwów-Tarnopol, Jan 1929

[Depeched]

This thread is much better than former "Kresy" thread.

[SAPik1989]

Downtown of Lwów

[SAPik1989]

Polish transatlantic Batory & Piłsudski

[Depeched]

What about Gdynia?

[Don Vito KurDeBalanz]

Originally Posted by Depeched

This thread is much better than former "Kresy" thread.

Originally Posted by Depeched

What about Gdynia?

keep trolling bro, u're very welcomed

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Depeched

What about Gdynia?

Gdynia wuz here.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...6&postcount=14

[katsuma]

Tarnopol Voivodeship


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Czortków













Ruins of Czortków Castle (originally built in 17th cent. on behalf of Stanisław & Jan Golski)



Wooden bridge on the Seret River



City hall



District court

[Gatsby]

Czortków always sounded to me like a place where the devil says good-night

but it looks pretty good

[katsuma]

And rightly so, as "czort-ków" is not far from "czart" (devil).

But from what I've read on Wikipedia, the town's name comes from the first landlord, Jerzy Czortkowski, who in 1522 was granted ownership title by king Zygmunt Stary.

[katsuma]

Tarnopol Voivodeship [cont.]
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Złoczów





Sobieski Castle (fortified citadel; the structure was damaged during WW1)




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Brzeżany





Ruins of Sieniawski Castle



Old wooden manor house


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Zbaraż





Ruins of Wiśniowiecki Castle (Siege of Zbaraż in Polish)



The castle's courtyard during some reconstruction works in 1935

[Urbanista1]

could we please be sure to indicate where these places are today, which country. thanks.