Poland in the Interbellum (1918-39)

[rychlik]

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

rychlik, you are right, I think they see it as an adventure and something different to a young person is automatically so much better. I don't get it, but at least my family are all back in Poland now from UK and Ireland and hopefully it will stay that way, stable. generations have toiled to get this far, and to now throw it away in one generation over a few more euros in the bank. luckily some are coming back and immigrants have come to fill the voids in many places....Poland will become more like prewar Poland, more diverse in the next 10 years.

I found this interview from the Warsaw Business Journal.
http://www.wbj.pl/article-60590-does...graduates.html

Some points:
A lot is made of Poland’s need to transform into a knowledge-based economy, but that doesn’t seem to be happening at a particularly fast pace. What can the government do to help?

Today, Poland has a “copy-cat” economy. Technology is simply transferred here. This is strange because Poles are extremely creative and innovative as a people. There are no major international IT firms where Poles don’t work. So it’s not we universities that are making the mistakes, because we are producing these people. It’s the government and regional authorities who must now do their part. There should be serious tech hubs in Poland. Why isn’t there even one in Warsaw?

Why do you think the Polish government is not doing its part?

I am not sure whether it is the government or external factors. We are not operating on an island. There are powerful players in Europe who have no interest whatsoever in Poland becoming an innovative economy and gaining competitive advantage.

http://www.wbj.pl/article-60590-does...graduates.html

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

could we please be sure to indicate where these places are today, which country. thanks.

Sure we can, although I think it should be fairly clear for someone with basic knowledge of European geography and history.

Re the recent pics posted by myself, lands of the former Stanisławów and Tarnopol Voivodeships are now (after dissolution of USSR) part of Ukraine.

[katsuma]

Tarnopol Voivodeship [cont.]

(as stated above, now part of Ukraine)


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Buczacz







City hall





Catholic and Orthodox churches





Ruins of the castle (originally built in 14th cent. and owned by Buczacki, Golski and Potocki families)

[Urbanista1]

Originally Posted by rychlik

I found this interview from the Warsaw Business Journal.
http://www.wbj.pl/article-60590-does...graduates.html

Some points:
A lot is made of Poland’s need to transform into a knowledge-based economy, but that doesn’t seem to be happening at a particularly fast pace. What can the government do to help?

Today, Poland has a “copy-cat” economy. Technology is simply transferred here. This is strange because Poles are extremely creative and innovative as a people. There are no major international IT firms where Poles don’t work. So it’s not we universities that are making the mistakes, because we are producing these people. It’s the government and regional authorities who must now do their part. There should be serious tech hubs in Poland. Why isn’t there even one in Warsaw?

Why do you think the Polish government is not doing its part?

I am not sure whether it is the government or external factors. We are not operating on an island. There are powerful players in Europe who have no interest whatsoever in Poland becoming an innovative economy and gaining competitive advantage.

http://www.wbj.pl/article-60590-does...graduates.html

sorry for OT moderator, but Poland is actually creating a fair number of high-tech hubs and incubators, most are just coming on-line now. there is a big challenge ahead thoigh. Poles have a problem working together, and such large endeavours need lots of coordination. I feel very bad for young people everywhere now, it's harder than it has ever been in my lifetime. At least I had a few really good years. you know yourself how hard it is to find any kind of job in Canada now where the downturn has been maybe milder than Europe and US. it will take some time for this financial meltdown starting in US to work itself out, but great ideas can attract capital even in bad times and Poland has so many advantages in terms of cost structure and taxation levels.

[TimothyR]

This is a very interesting and informative thread. I have seen so many photos of Warsaw before the war, but very few about other cities.

Poland is a fascinating country - so much loss and suffering under the Nazis and then the Russians. But Poland is alive and growing; it is proof that suffering does not have to destroy a nation. A moving story.

[rychlik]

Originally Posted by Urbanista1

sorry for OT moderator, but Poland is actually creating a fair number of high-tech hubs and incubators, most are just coming on-line now. there is a big challenge ahead thoigh. Poles have a problem working together, and such large endeavours need lots of coordination. I feel very bad for young people everywhere now, it's harder than it has ever been in my lifetime. At least I had a few really good years. you know yourself how hard it is to find any kind of job in Canada now where the downturn has been maybe milder than Europe and US. it will take some time for this financial meltdown starting in US to work itself out, but great ideas can attract capital even in bad times and Poland has so many advantages in terms of cost structure and taxation levels.

Well said Urbanista. I'm one of those younger people not really where I want to be

[rychlik]

Originally Posted by TimothyR

This is a very interesting and informative thread. I have seen so many photos of Warsaw before the war, but very few about other cities.

Poland is a fascinating country - so much loss and suffering under the Nazis and then the Russians. But Poland is alive and growing; it is proof that suffering does not have to destroy a nation. A moving story.

Glad you view it this way.

[katsuma]

Tarnopol Voivodeship [cont.]
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Trembowla







Bridge on the Seret River



St. Peter & Paul's Church



King Jan III Sobieski's monument



Ruins of the castle (built in 14th cent. on the instruction of King Kazimierz Wielki / Casimir the Great)

[RS_UK-PL]

In 1675 the Turkish army destroyed the town of Trembowla, in the Podole Voivodship, and laid siege to the castle for an entire week. A woman played the decisive role in the garrison's successful stand against the invaders. Anna Chrzanowska, the wife of the castle's commander Jan Samuel Chrzanowski, threatened to commit suicide if her husband proceeded with the planned surrender, thereby stiffening his spine and creating an atmosphere for defending the castle. The story of Anna Chrzanowska inspired Polish painters and writers alike, for example she was a heroine in a drama written by Józef Wybicki. The small group of 80 dragoons and 200 townsmen defended the Castle of Trembowla against 20,000 Turkish soldiers until Jan III Sobieski arrived to relieve them.

Anna Chrzanowska monument in Trembowla

[RS_UK-PL]

Wolyn Fair in Rowne

[katsuma]

Tarnopol Voivodeship [my last batch of pics from that region]

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Dźwinogród, view on the Dniestr River by the then Polish-Romanian border




Czerwonogród (the town itself no longer exists, see Wikipedia)




Czerwonogród, Lubomirski Palace (heavily damaged during WW1, now in ruins)




Jagielnica, Lanckoroński Castle




Celejów Palace




Jazłowiec (one of the oldest Polish towns in the historic region of Podole; over the course of history it was owned by Jazłowiecki, Koniecpolski, Lubomirski & Poniatowski families)




Jazłowiec, monument dedicated to the famous Polish cavalry regiment (14 Pułk Ułanów Jazłowieckich), who were given the honorary name of Jazłowiec after the battle with Ukrainian forces in 1919




Skałat, ruins of the castle (originally built in early 17th cent. on behalf of Sienieński family)






Jazłowczyk, old wooden Catholic church




Dobrowlany, Orthodox church




Brody, family house of novelist Joseph Conrad, born Józef Korzeniowski)

[RS_UK-PL]

Few more from Brody

Brody Castle/Palace


Jozef Korzeniowski monument

[RS_UK-PL]

International football matches in Lwow...

Poland - Turkey (6:1)






Poland - Romania (3:3)






PS. I've updated some posts on the first page of this thread.

[Viriatuus]

Any fotos of Pinsk and Luninets coming over?

[RS_UK-PL]

Krzemieniec (birthplace of Juliusz Słowacki)

Catholic Church






Januszewskich House


Old street


Panoramic view


Krzemieniec Castle (in the history, fortress became known by the name of Polish Princess of Italian descent Bona Sforza; in 1569 the castle became a property of Queen Bona Sforza with forthcoming renovation conforming to Renaissance architectural style and upgrade; it was destroyed by Cossacks in 1648)

[RS_UK-PL]

Włocławek

[katsuma]

Płock (capital of Poland in 1079-1138)
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Płock Cathedral





The Royal Chapel, sarcophagus of Duke Władysław I Herman (11th-12th cent.)



Mariavite Cathedral



Children from the Mariavite's orphanage at play



City hall



City theatre



Coffee house adjacent to the theatre



Guardhouse

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Viriatuus

Any fotos of Pinsk and Luninets coming over?

Sorry, I've overlooked your post.

Especially for you, sir.
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Pińsk (now Pinsk in Belarus)









Catholic churches





Jesuit Collegium



Orthodox Church



Great Synagogue



Butrymowicz Palace



District court



Opening of a bridge on the Pina River, 1932



Polesia fair & exhibition, Aug 1937


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If you were interested, I've found a Polish website with a few more historic pics of that town (http://echapolesia.pl/index.php?mact...t01returnid=15).

[katsuma]

Originally Posted by Viriatuus

Any fotos of Pinsk and Luninets coming over?

I've managed to find only two pics from Łuniniec (now Luninets in Belarus).

Catholic church

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Local theatre

[Viriatuus]

Thanks!