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Old November 5th, 2012, 09:43 PM   #101
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I think the unit is Club M - the windows are all covered over because it's a nightclub rather than a bar.

Makes you think they should have opened in a building without any windows really. :S
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I think the unit is Club M - the windows are all covered over because it's a nightclub rather than a bar.

Makes you think they should have opened in a building without any windows really. :S
Windows are glazed over, and the signage are looks like someone's just torn the signs out... I honestly thought it was an empty unit.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #103
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It's going to be the 'Muffin Mill Coffee House' according to the Planning Portal. Would've been another option for you on New Union St, NT.

Not particularly exciting but good to have a unit occupied and better than a 'shit in a tray merchant' or another buffet!
Would have been perfect, as that is where I drop my wife off at work every morning. But you have to pay 50p to park. So no.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 03:23 AM   #104
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Old Orleans is now Harvester.
The unit in the middle is Wetherspoons
The unit on the end towards the Arena is empty.

The clubs have all gone. Jumpin' Jaks is still there, I think.

Pretty depressing place.
That is depressing.. I remember when it opened up (and pretty much sucked the life out of the town centre),you had Diva, JJ's, Old Orleans, Ikon(?), Odeon, and of course the ice-rink. A sign of the times if people have less money to spend on leisure but then again, why stay in Cov, when Birmingham is up the road I guess.

I know Browns is still open (heaven knows how, after that prolonged backlash) - is the Varsity still there?.. And in Earlsdon, is that large pub still there? (The Oak?)...
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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #105
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That is depressing.. I remember when it opened up (and pretty much sucked the life out of the town centre),you had Diva, JJ's, Old Orleans, Ikon(?), Odeon, and of course the ice-rink. A sign of the times if people have less money to spend on leisure but then again, why stay in Cov, when Birmingham is up the road I guess.

I know Browns is still open (heaven knows how, after that prolonged backlash) - is the Varsity still there?.. And in Earlsdon, is that large pub still there? (The Oak?)...
The Varsity is still open, known as the Castle now.

I don't know why Coventry City Council ever let the Skydome go ahead, it's ruined Spon Street and ruined the area nearer the Cathedral.

I much preferred the Odeon in its proper position on Gosford St.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #106
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Skydome looks somewhat shabby these days and the atrocious layout and design doesn't help. The links between the car park and the Arena are almost laughable. I think the Arena was added as an afterthought, though. The whole place feels like something stuck down a dismal side street, behind service areas. The bit fronting Spon Street is horrible.

Didn't the owners go bust a few years back? Who owns it now?
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Old November 6th, 2012, 11:22 AM   #107
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There's a new mobile shop on Market Way. It's called 'fonehouse'. Just what we need in Cov, eh?
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Old November 6th, 2012, 01:20 PM   #108
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Skydome looks somewhat shabby these days and the atrocious layout and design doesn't help. The links between the car park and the Arena are almost laughable. I think the Arena was added as an afterthought, though. The whole place feels like something stuck down a dismal side street, behind service areas. The bit fronting Spon Street is horrible.

Didn't the owners go bust a few years back? Who owns it now?
I am not sure, think Luminar were either the former owners or held leases for Jumpin Jaks, Ikon & Diva (that became Lave & Ignite) units.

The design of it is woeful, would look OK on the Walsgrave Triangle but completely unsuited to its environment, the fact it's now blanketed by another blue carbuncle doesn't help. You wouldn't even know it was there!!
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Skydome is now owned by 'Mansford'.

This article last year states how they were going spend a lot of money and make it into a 'family' oriented venue:

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/20...ome-21894.html

Although since then we've seen a casino and a nightclub open up, so I guess they've given up on that plan of action, as neither of those are particularly 'family' oriented. I don't think we've seen any improvements to a 'boulevard'. I don't even know what that is!

I think Luminar went bust a few years back. Wasn't it originally owned and built by Rank?

Not a big fan of 'complexes' like this, myself.
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Skydome is now owned by 'Mansford'.

This article last year states how they were going spend a lot of money and make it into a 'family' oriented venue:

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/20...ome-21894.html

Although since then we've seen a casino and a nightclub open up, so I guess they've given up on that plan of action, as neither of those are particularly 'family' oriented. I don't think we've seen any improvements to a 'boulevard'. I don't even know what that is!

I think Luminar went bust a few years back. Wasn't it originally owned and built by Rank?

Not a big fan of 'complexes' like this, myself.
They're old hat. The Printworks in Manchester is similar (but better and at least is a reasonably attractive old building put to use - if they took the horrible neon lights down), but even that isn't that popular thesedays. I do believe that people prefer streets and a street full of bars and restaurants is always going to beat a complex full.

It's a bit more natural to wander along a street and maybe pop into somewhere, these complexes do not lend themselves to picking up passing trade.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #111
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You say that though but I know that Broad Street's been in a bit of a decline here in Brum but the complex called the Arcadian is usually always rammed on weekend- even without the students.

I think these days it's the sheer size of the complex units- each bar in the Arcadian has just enough space for a more intimate party atmosphere and in general are cheaper to run. The other difference I guess is that complex is outside-in... if that makes sense. You have to walk into an open air area and can pick an choose your club of choice, rather than have to walk around a big box to work out which queue to join.

Always felt that Cross Cheaping (is that what it's called? - that area opposite Forbidden Planet)- All them crap buildings should have come down to create units more sympathetic to the buildings opposite but to fulfil the role of being Coventry's 'Broad Street' - At least keeping it in town but a safe distance from the centre BUT contain smaller nightclub units and bar/restaurants.
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Cross Cheaping/Burges already has bars and clubs and takeaways, and pretty much a no-go area for most of us. It's also a bit small...

I'd rather see the council redevelop the streets such as Gosford Street and Corporation Street rather than continue to create these huge purpose built developments with their own car parks accessed directly from the ring road. It's creating an odd vacuum of space in which no one has much need to go and whole chunks of city centre that have been pretty much abandoned. The latest idea, a large supermarket with a large car park built in, is another example. A small supermarket on a city street is totally different to large out of town shed with its own car park.
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Cross Cheaping/Burges already has bars and clubs and takeaways, and pretty much a no-go area for most of us. It's also a bit small...

I'd rather see the council redevelop the streets such as Gosford Street and Corporation Street rather than continue to create these huge purpose built developments with their own car parks accessed directly from the ring road. It's creating an odd vacuum of space in which no one has much need to go and whole chunks of city centre that have been pretty much abandoned. The latest idea, a large supermarket with a large car park built in, is another example. A small supermarket on a city street is totally different to large out of town shed with its own car park.
Far Gosford St all the way onto Gosford St and then High Street should be full of active frontages. Instead it has the usual mix of back to front buildings, surface level car parks, under passes and those bizarre post war buildings with overhanging first floors.

Corporation St should be the equivalent on the other side of town but has equal amounts of absolute shite on it.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #114
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You say that though but I know that Broad Street's been in a bit of a decline here in Brum but the complex called the Arcadian is usually always rammed on weekend- even without the students.

I think these days it's the sheer size of the complex units- each bar in the Arcadian has just enough space for a more intimate party atmosphere and in general are cheaper to run. The other difference I guess is that complex is outside-in... if that makes sense. You have to walk into an open air area and can pick an choose your club of choice, rather than have to walk around a big box to work out which queue to join.

Always felt that Cross Cheaping (is that what it's called? - that area opposite Forbidden Planet)- All them crap buildings should have come down to create units more sympathetic to the buildings opposite but to fulfil the role of being Coventry's 'Broad Street' - At least keeping it in town but a safe distance from the centre BUT contain smaller nightclub units and bar/restaurants.
The Cross Cheaping/Burges area did have quite a few pubs/clubs down it in the 90's, but was a massive troublespot and two people got murdered outside which effectively shut it all down.

The SkyDome is essentially outside-in - all the entrances (bar the cinema & JJ's) are along the front facade rather than inside. TBH it looked OK with the street level car park as it had some sort of visual connection to the street, then IKEA carpark was dumped in front of it and it just became totally isolated from all the routes. It's essentially now another back to fronter - turn it 180 degrees so the facade was facing the ring road and the service area/car park faced IKEA service area/car park and it wouldn't be so bad. Or even put a more traditional street between IKEA and the SkyDome from Croft Road to Spon St

On another note the Beer Engine has already been served with an order to turn the noise down...
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Old November 8th, 2012, 11:23 AM   #115
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Land Rovers expansion plans have been rumoured for a few years now. I think this will be the most significant thing to happen to this area in decades. South Warwickshire will benefit hugely but so will Coventry due to the higher income in the area and the supply chain being here.

Sure Tata will build some of the new models overseas but they are investing in their UK plants and I can't see them moving the HQ away from Gaydon. Manufacturers increasingly want parts more locally, especially as labour costs are going up in China.

Speaking of Gaydon, the museum there now does 'Land Rover Experiences'. For 80 quid you can drive any Landy/Rangey you want off road. I drove a Disco 4, which left me speechless. I have no words to describe how awesome that car is! :-)

Apparently the Chinese are going off luxury saloons and want 4X4s. I'm a huge Land Rover fan and drive an old Discovery with 201k miles on the clock, so I have to say I agree with them!

Land Rover is hoping to make the DC100 the worlds best selling car by pitching it to developing markets and making it easy to fix etc. If they can pull that off it would be fantastic!

The issue of higher oil prices is being addressed, the next gen of landies will be lighter and hybrids. The next disco is coming in 2014 and will be 500kg lighter, like the recently launched new Range Rover.

Jag isnt doing as well though apparently but they are still doing fairly okay.

Perhaps in the future Jag will move its HQ from those annonymous offcies in Whitley and build a new office as part of Friargate?
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Oh dear:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/new...2746-32191785/
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Given that a large portion of Warwickshire actually relies on Coventry for work, their stance puzzles me. One hopes that some agreement can be salvaged, but in today's world, glasses are very much half-empty.

One also wonders if there would have been any issue if Coventry was officially part of the Warwickshire county...
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probably not as it would have provided WCC with enough assets to sort out financing... Personally I think there's also been a bit of political posturing going on and until they come up with some sort of semi-independent working group to bring everything together I can only see gridlock to the deal.
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My understanding is that a planning application for some significant changes at the Sky Dome will be submitted in early 2013.

Much of what has been said about the Sky Dome and this type of leisure facility I agree with, however don't be fooled into thinking that one empty unit in a complex of this size suggests it is struggling. On the contrary, I've heard it is doing very well.
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Who said Skydome is struggling?
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