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Old January 1st, 2013, 10:15 PM   #161
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there is lot ugly buildings in Belgrad IMO
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 11:45 AM   #162
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Since we have already a thread about ugly buildings, what about a thread about hated buildings. A building doesn't have to be ugly to be hated, though it can be. There are countless possibilities that can make somebody hate a building

The one building I hate the most is the new WTC PATH hub. The reason why I hate it so much is that it is essentially one huge money eating pit. It costs 3,44 billion dollars, it is an ugly, tiny and completely insignificant building and most of all it's horrible cost is the reason why the beautiful WTC towers didn't receive an impressive height, which they deserve. If they wanted to waste 3,44 billions they could have just give them away to random people. Even though there are far uglier buildings in the world, none of them makes my blood boil like this little bastard

with that money we can help a lot of people instead of using it to build this building
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 06:39 PM   #163
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Everyone says that money should be used for better causes but no-one does anything, and they never will. So just enjoy the construction because such money isn't going to any charity.
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Old January 3rd, 2013, 06:43 PM   #164
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The problem is that if that money goes to a skyscraper it will at least be used to contribute to the skyline and to make a new icon of the city. However if all that money goes to one tiny transit station it is completely wasted money Thatps why I find that station disgusting
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Old January 4th, 2013, 01:45 AM   #165
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If I was to chose between this beautiful transit hub and another bland glass box for wtc the decision would easy to me.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 07:51 AM   #166
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Do the building need to be built to be posted here?

The Penang Global City Center would make a good candidate. It was very controversial with politics and hated with residents living near the area of this mega project. It is said that it will destroy the greenery of the area and bring traffic congestion to the nearby residential which is why is has now been shelved for an eternity if not forever.

Who in the right mind builds a commercial skyscraper at a foot of a hill next to a high end residential area?



Shame because if it was built in the city center or by the coast on reclaimed land it might be completed today.
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #167
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Perth's recent Brookfield Place skyscraper, completed just last year, has been the major addition to the city skyline and it's now the tallest structure in Perth. It's now the home of BHP Billiton.
I don't particularly like it because it just doesn't blend in with the surrounding environment - the truss structure at the very top is beyond meaningless. The overall aesthetics resemble altogether to milk cartons, personally.

Another major structure is the much loathed Perth Arena, the city's newest entertainment and sporting complex. It's currently hosting the Hopman Cup as of now.
Despite the 'squashed can' nickname, I like it to be honest!
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Old January 4th, 2013, 03:59 PM   #168
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Do the building need to be built to be posted here?

The Penang Global City Center would make a good candidate. It was very controversial with politics and hated with residents living near the area of this mega project. It is said that it will destroy the greenery of the area and bring traffic congestion to the nearby residential which is why is has now been shelved for an eternity if not forever.

Who in the right mind builds a commercial skyscraper at a foot of a hill next to a high end residential area?



Shame because if it was built in the city center or by the coast on reclaimed land it might be completed today.
I personally like when skyscrapers are surrounded by nature. That makes them acceptable for me to live in (that is, if I had the horendous ammount of money which apartments in these things require ). I would never want to live in a dense city center without nature.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 06:21 AM   #169
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Easy choice in Poland.





It's eyesore AND it's symbol of 50 year of communist occupation.

It was build by Russians in the center of Warsaw, after 1989 there were plans to destroy it, but in the end Warsawians decided to keep it, but build skyscrappers all around it to hide it from view.

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Old January 17th, 2013, 06:51 AM   #170
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The people who use(d) it, in my opinion, factor in absolutely zero percent of my overall view on the building. History and location should have no effect on what a person thinks of a building and it is very unfair and stupid to judge them based on those. It looks like a nice gothic design, but it's dirty and needs a renovation.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #171
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I agree with you that all buildings should be rated fairly Though I do think that is one ugly buildings
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Old January 17th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #172
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The people who use(d) it, in my opinion, factor in absolutely zero percent of my overall view on the building. History and location should have no effect on what a person thinks of a building and it is very unfair and stupid to judge them based on those. It looks like a nice gothic design, but it's dirty and needs a renovation.
Well it's not that spectacular on close-up anyway, as some of the elements are just tacky communist add-ons. Cleaning it up won't change much, as it would have to be literally painted white or buffed to death.
I think it should be torn apart with the communism, because it is the single biggest space-waster ever. The area could be used for 8 skyscrapers that would surely serve the city better.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 02:54 PM   #173
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Easy choice in Poland.
It's eyesore AND it's symbol of 50 year of communist occupation.
It was build by Russians in the center of Warsaw, after 1989 there were plans to destroy it, but in the end Warsawians decided to keep it, but build skyscrappers all around it to hide it from view.
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Well it's not that spectacular on close-up anyway, as some of the elements are just tacky communist add-ons. Cleaning it up won't change much, as it would have to be literally painted white or buffed to death.
I think it should be torn apart with the communism, because it is the single biggest space-waster ever. The area could be used for 8 skyscrapers that would surely serve the city better.
I understand if you dislike its appearance, a matter of taste. Personaly I like it due to its stepped-back shape (resembles of Art Deco structures) and it somehow gives more character and historical backdrop to the Warsaw skyline.

But IMO it is wrong and obsolete thinking about demolishing it because of its history and what it used to represent. To have a critical view of those times yes, but destroying Palace of C&S would actually show the way of thinking has remained the same as then. Just think about how many old towns in the Eastern block were destroyed because Commies wanted to erase traces of the past, for them unwanted social orders. Can we surpass that mentality nowadays?

Don't get me wrong, many buildings from that period are architectural and especialy urbanist rubbish and should make place for a better, new development. But such iconic heritage buildings as Palace of C&S should stay: as a memory and a reminder!
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Don't worry it's already listed on the heritage list and such opinions are rather rare.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #175
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It is a great example of Stalinist architecture, I fail to understand how one can critice the Palace but admire the Moscow University or the Ministry.
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It is a great example of Stalinist architecture, I fail to understand how one can critice the Palace but admire the Moscow University or the Ministry.
That's the same with Dubai skyscrapers or stuff like an iPhone. They look good (Dubai structures not so much), but if you look into them in detail, things change. I can admire the skyline of Dubai Marina, but I hate them because of the numerous workers' exploits that occur on the sites.
However, since I don't know the exact history of each country, I can't really say whether I hate a building for its history.
However, I know quite a bit about my country and the events that surrounded this building make it look a bit worse. To many people it's a remainder of the rather complicated and uncertain times that came afterwards.
I even like social architecture, when it was modest and useful. My city is full of such buildings, but the Palace isn't one of them. The style isn't my cup of tea either - it looks like a gothic that wanted to be modern art deco.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #177
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The people who use(d) it, in my opinion, factor in absolutely zero percent of my overall view on the building. History and location should have no effect on what a person thinks of a building and it is very unfair and stupid to judge them based on those. It looks like a nice gothic design, but it's dirty and needs a renovation.
I wouldn't exactly call it stupid. It's easy to say outside when you have no connections that it's stupid. Why can't a building represent oppression like some symbol? I'm sure nobody would oppose taking down a big statue that was a nazi symbol. For the topic "most hated building" i actually think this kind of discussion is more than fitting.


All that said. I actually like it a lot looking it from these pictures and pics i have seen of it previously. I have always had soft spot for the high rises of that era. Be the tower build under communism or in NYC. Granted the spire is a bit wonky and cheap looking.

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The shard is one of the 10 or so buildings that are utterly flawless and perfect, IMO.

Yeah with the simplistic design and all i can't simply understand how could somebody call that building ugliest without some agenda. I'm sure some are fed up with the praises it gets, but ugliest. Just no.

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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #178
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The one building I hate the most is the new WTC PATH hub. The reason why I hate it so much is that it is essentially one huge money eating pit. It costs 3,44 billion dollars, it is an ugly, tiny and completely insignificant building and most of all it's horrible cost is the reason why the beautiful WTC towers didn't receive an impressive height, which they deserve. If they wanted to waste 3,44 billions they could have just give them away to random people. Even though there are far uglier buildings in the world, none of them makes my blood boil like this little bastard

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The problem is that if that money goes to a skyscraper it will at least be used to contribute to the skyline and to make a new icon of the city. However if all that money goes to one tiny transit station it is completely wasted money Thatps why I find that station disgusting
You need to understand that the top priority will always be functionality above aesthetics, a conception that needs to be clear particularly on you if you want to become an engineer. What good is to have a colosal building if it can't accomplish the daily needs of a neighbourhood?

About the money wasting management, more than 70% of the total cost of the project is being funded by the Federal Transit Administration ($2.87 out of a total $3.995 billion). While I agree the entire project is well over-budgeted, it is important to mention that part of this over budget relies on the nature of the site on which it is taking place, almost everything needs to be revisioned over and over again in order to avoid future problems on any scenario, you also need to take into account that due to the intervention of a large amount of subcontractors, the price to pay to workers is just too damn high. Yes, it is expensive to build in the US.

The hub is not "one tiny transit station" as you may believe, you're talking about the most complex project on the entire city -and perhaps one of the most challenging man has faced-, its complexity rely on the fact that it literally touches every single project on a over compacted 16 acre site, and even further beyond (i.e. Brookfield 9A underpass or MTA's Fulton Transit Station).



Sorry Kanto, but I'll have to defend the hub to the end, leave aesthetics to another time, this thing will easily become an engineering marvel of our century.

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Old January 17th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #179
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Easy choice in Poland.





It's eyesore AND it's symbol of 50 year of communist occupation.

It was build by Russians in the center of Warsaw, after 1989 there were plans to destroy it, but in the end Warsawians decided to keep it, but build skyscrappers all around it to hide it from view.

EDIT: both photos by me.
The building looks really nice at night!
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They should let Kristo drape that thing with something else.
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