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Old June 5th, 2014, 08:21 AM   #161
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One could put a 400m tower practically anywhere in the core and it wouldn't look out of place. You'd have to go to 700m+ before a strong argument could be made for it being too tall for it's surroundings. We've had a 553m tower for 40 years already.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 04:38 AM   #162
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Toronto needs a 400m tower. A supertall is when the downtown is less dense and surrounding buildings are shorter. But a 326m tower is not going to stick out in Toronto downtown. A 450m+ building would be a nice landmark, Toronto skyline is needs another landmark other than CN Tower
They need something [anything???] that will make everyone happy, but us (canadians) complain lots/are really prudent that's why it is hard...

We are perfectionists but perfection isn't possible

But we shouldn't complain excessively or be too picky or else nothing gets done.

And we all know "nothing" sucks.

Trust me.
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Old June 6th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #163
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We are perfectionists ...
That's one thing we're definitely not. We're a nation of compromises even if it means we end up serving no one particularly well.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 05:40 AM   #164
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Toronto needs a 400m tower. A supertall is when the downtown is less dense and surrounding buildings are shorter. But a 326m tower is not going to stick out in Toronto downtown. A 450m+ building would be a nice landmark, Toronto skyline is needs another landmark other than CN Tower
I disagree with the need for a 450m tower at this stage. Toronto doesn't need to compete with the Middle East or Far East. However, if one were proposed, I'm sure I'd be excited!
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I disagree with the need for a 450m tower at this stage. Toronto doesn't need to compete with the Middle East or Far East. However, if one were proposed, I'm sure I'd be excited!
The US has 400 meter towers too

I think Toronto's skyline would look awesome with a 400+ meter building.
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Old June 15th, 2014, 04:26 AM   #166
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I think Toronto's skyline would look awesome with a 400+ meter building.
Agree and it's about time we got a ~450m building to counter balance the CN Tower.
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Old June 15th, 2014, 02:32 PM   #167
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First of all, Cities need buitldings that contribute to the urban life and that blend in good.

Since Toronto has no buildings that are supertall in roof height, It might be better to get some buildings in the 300 meter range first.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 08:15 AM   #168
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I think we can do both at the same time.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 09:22 AM   #169
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First of all, Cities need buitldings that contribute to the urban life and that blend in good.

Since Toronto has no buildings that are supertall in roof height, It might be better to get some buildings in the 300 meter range first.
FCP is 298m tall, 2 meters shorter to get the "supertall status", and with all the highrises going up on the south core is barely visible from the Islands. We need something taller, like isaidso said, in the ~450m range.
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The best proyect in Toronto!!!
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Last time I heard, this project was killed by the city.
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no, the city said they didn't want a casino in the city, so the developer cancelled the whole thing.

The whole thing was essentially a giant "look at we might do if you let us build a casino!" trying to sell it. It was never really serious. This thing is cancelled, dead, and should not have a thread in this section of the forum. Move it to "never built".
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Old June 30th, 2017, 02:47 AM   #175
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Apparently, this project is actually a thing.
After 'Ottawan', a UT contributor attended the Toronto of the Future event, he/she shared this photo that shows that the project has been re-branded as 'Union Place'. I don't think it includes a casino anymore.


http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads...16439/page-106
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Old June 30th, 2017, 03:50 AM   #176
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The developer had stated that it was a shelved project rather than a cancelled one but I am surprised that the design seems to be the same one submitted by Foster. I wonder if these are still intended at 326m each.

If so, the number of super tall proposals for Toronto would now stand at 8.
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I was under the impression that this proposal died the day when Toronto city council voted "No" to the casino. Is there any credible source that there is still life in this project?
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I was under the impression that this proposal died the day when Toronto city council voted "No" to the casino. Is there any credible source that there is still life in this project?
The financing for the proposal fell apart when the 'NO' side won. The need for the office towers and expansion of the convention centre still existed so Oxford decided to shelve rather than cancel the proposal. This was always the official position of Oxford and it seems that this is exactly what has transpired. A complicated project like this takes a long time to re-work/re-finance. I can see the hotel component getting axed or reduced in scope.

We'll have to wait for further details. If one believes what the developer said, this was never canceled despite many posters saying it was. That the office twins look to be unchanged is a little odd though.
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Hoping they stick with the office twins design that they had before. They look pretty awesome, kind of like Hermitage Plaza that should start construction soon in France. The hotel part, on the other hand, should be done differently or eliminated and reworked into something else.
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At this time, it's hard to see the vision Oxford properties anticipates for this site. Regretfully, I'm not convinced the 70 storey mixed use twin towers will be built in the original form. With city council rejecting the casino, it's very unlikely the project will proceed as originally envisioned. My guess is if an office tower gets proposed, it will be of a much smaller scale, (40 to 50 stories) and the hotels will be scrapped. I agree the original foster designed twin towers looked great. Highly unlikely those will be the end result of the project.
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