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Old December 8th, 2008, 05:16 PM   #41
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:32 PM   #42
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similar to our city - -"

Some politician says to built BRT instead of metro because it was cheaper and less time to built it. Goodluck that people like rail better.


But you got very impressive BRT,Xiamen
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Old April 24th, 2009, 09:36 PM   #43
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could yu post new pictures of this awesome system?
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Old April 24th, 2009, 10:21 PM   #44
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Impressive.

However, are all those overhead roads dedicated tracks? Seems like a waste if that is the case. They're better off converting it to a medium capacity light rail system.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 09:55 AM   #45
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Rather than building an elevated corridor for buses (like this one) it would have made more sense to build an elevated Metro since Metro can go faster and carries more people.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #46
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Rather than building an elevated corridor for buses (like this one) it would have made more sense to build an elevated Metro since Metro can go faster and carries more people.
Perhaps like the earlier poster said, the use of buses is to safe money.

Probably they have provision to convert to trains in the future, which are faster and have much more capacity.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 06:26 PM   #47
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How are the buses driven? Petrol? And is the whole network fully separated from the rest of the road network or is it just the core?

If the answers are yea: OMFG, how stupid is that? When investing in such a system, why not spend a little more and build rails instead of a road on top of that viaduct? A Light Rail would have been so much more efficient and ecological (as rai-on-rail needs much less energy per passenger).
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Old April 26th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #48
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From the looks of it, they probably designed the elevated guideway in a way so that rail tracks could be added in the future.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 03:23 AM   #49
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It's obvious that the local government just wants to help a locally based company, the King Long Bus Industries.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:55 AM   #50
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It looks nice, but weird for such a big city.

My city also has a system like this (70.000pop). The line runs from Amsterdam to Haarlem and through my city. It's very usefull, but there are already plans to have a lightrail running on it.
wait till you see trans jakarta busway. an ugly busway system for a megapolitan of 11 million inhabitants and none of the dedicated roads are elevated!!!

the Xiamen BRT is so much better than jakarta's busway.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #51
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It's obvious that the local government just wants to help a locally based company, the King Long Bus Industries.
I wish everyone on this forum was as smart as you urbanfan.

Not everyone can see the greater, and sometimes uglier, context.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 11:12 AM   #52
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It's obvious that the local government just wants to help a locally based company, the King Long Bus Industries.
It's obvious that it's very smart idea. To have both - good and modern transport system and jobs.
I wish every city had such ideas. Simply and effective.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #53
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Building all the infrastructure for a metro system and operating it with 12 meter diesel busses - Great idea.... NOT.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 06:34 PM   #54
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As far as i know they ve just started, give them some time, im sure they will use longer buses. Besides in fact we know very little about Xiamen and its BRT.
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It's not about longer buses...It's about the greater capacity, faster service and less use of gasoline that you get when you use trains instead of buses. It also increases safety because there is a higher chance of a bus hitting the narrow walls than a train.

If they had put rails on those corridors, they could have served upto 10 times more people and done it much faster too.

This is just a waste of money.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #56
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Well maybe they dont need to transport THAT many ppl? So in that situation a rail system would be waste of money
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Old April 26th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #57
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Apparently the system is carrying around 3,600pph.

For it's worth, It does look cool.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 11:06 PM   #58
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Well China is the world's largest country and more and more people are moving to cities like Xiamen...

And if they really didnt need to transport that many people, they could always cut the number of bogies that the metro train had...

You can always cut the bogies in a metro train if you need to lessen capacity, but you cant keep adding segments to a bus to increase capacity for future needs.
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Old April 27th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #59
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If you want to cut costs, then you don't build such a huge, enormous elevated viaduct. Obviously Xiamen is not in Europe, but over here we have lightrail systems in Cities of 100k and 200k inhabitants. So don't tell me, Xiamen, a city of 5 million inhabitants, is too small for rail transport.
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Old April 27th, 2009, 12:39 AM   #60
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Well there is no a 'must' to build rail-system in big cities.
There are plenty of over million metropoles that get by without it, building BRT. The best example would be here probably Bogota.
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