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Old January 1st, 2007, 07:21 PM   #201
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Old January 1st, 2007, 07:24 PM   #202
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very nice futurinstic and artistic indeed ! but one question..

Where is Portugl ?
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Old January 4th, 2007, 04:25 AM   #204
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"Location:Sete Rios - IN Lisbon"

Connections with the express buses terminal and Jardim Zoológico metro station.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:32 PM   #205
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Old January 26th, 2007, 05:33 PM   #206
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Old February 21st, 2007, 11:22 PM   #207
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Old March 5th, 2007, 08:53 PM   #209
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So how fast are the new highspeed trains going to be?

How much will a round trip Faro -> Lisbon cost? How long will it take?
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Old March 6th, 2007, 06:14 PM   #210
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So how fast are the new highspeed trains going to be?

How much will a round trip Faro -> Lisbon cost? How long will it take?
Faro-lisbon - 3 hours with the highspeed train, although the lines in this section due not permit these trains to reach maximum speed.- cost = €19.50

There are also the Intercity trains - 3 hours and a half - cost= €18.00
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Old March 7th, 2007, 04:04 AM   #211
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Old March 7th, 2007, 02:41 PM   #212
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Faro-lisbon - 3 hours with the highspeed train, although the lines in this section due not permit these trains to reach maximum speed.- cost = €19.50

There are also the Intercity trains - 3 hours and a half - cost= €18.00
Highspeed? in Portugal? If im not wrong, they are constructing first highspeed line (Madrid-lisbon) and it isnt finished yet
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Highspeed? in Portugal? If im not wrong, they are constructing first highspeed line (Madrid-lisbon) and it isnt finished yet
it's not highspeed. I hope you understand my portuguese:

1- velocidade convencional: máx 160km/h

2- velocidade elevada: from 160km/h to 250km/h max- tilting trains are the most used in this kind.

3- alta-velocidade: TGV, AVE, etc... from 250km/h to 350km/h and more...

in portugal we just have the first two. The highspeed is still in project.
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Old March 7th, 2007, 09:39 PM   #214
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good, but do you know how many locomotives portugese railways bought?
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Old March 8th, 2007, 01:32 AM   #215
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15 locomotives (it will be used on freight trains)
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Old March 9th, 2007, 06:52 PM   #216
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CP LE 4701-4725


15 locomotives ordered 01.2006, with an option for 10 more locomotives
delivery 08.2008 - 02.2009
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manufacturer - Siemens AG Transportation Systems
product name - EuroSprinter ES46F1
product description - asynchrone electric freight locomotive
top speed - 140 kph
power system - 25kV AC
axles / wheel-arrangement - 4 / Bo´Bo´
weight - 87 t
track gauge - 1668 mm (Iberian) (and 1435 mm (normal))
power rating - 4600 kW
starting traction effort - 300 kN
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Old March 9th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #217
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They look very nice
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very nice futurinstic and artistic indeed ! but one question..

Where is Portugl ?

You go straight ahead to Americas ... go all the way up until United States District ... fooloy the yellow brick road until you find the "I luv NY" sign ... and its on the other side of the road.



If you are looking from within europe ... it's the foremost left rectangle ... its the "face" of Europe (Spain being the hair). :P
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So how fast are the new highspeed trains going to be?

How much will a round trip Faro -> Lisbon cost? How long will it take?
IC is the best bang for the Buck ... you can go to the last coach when you pass over the river tajo ... and if you are usin the retun ticket I would recommend going Faro Lx on Alfa Pendular (lever quite early in the morning from faro at 6h30?) and returning on the evening IC(19h).

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Highspeed? in Portugal? If im not wrong, they are constructing first highspeed line (Madrid-lisbon) and it isnt finished yet
Finished ? not a stone droppend to mark the spot ...

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it's not highspeed. I hope you understand my portuguese:

1- velocidade convencional: máx 160km/h
2- velocidade elevada: from 160km/h to 250km/h max- tilting trains are the most used in this kind.
3- alta-velocidade: TGV, AVE, etc... from 250km/h to 350km/h and more...

in portugal we just have the first two. The highspeed is still in project.
we have 2 basic tipes of electrified tracks ...

one tipe is used on NON segregated track UIC54 rail on concrete/wooden sleepers and contact wire is finetuned for <140kmh running
the other is used on segregated track and consists of mainly heavier UIC60 rail on concrete sleepers and contact wire is finetuned to allow heavier (22.5/25ton) 100kmh freight trains and at the same time express trains at 220kmh
... and the Alfa Pendular units can go all the way up to 250km/h (or more) ... but are limited by signaling and tracks to 224km/h (220kmh line limit +4kmh of CONVEL tolerance).
there are about some 100 or 200km of double track thas could be easily changed to 250kmh or even 300kmh running ... namely the 4 tracks out of lisbon and the South line stetches from coina-p.novo-poceirao and grandola-ermidas-t.vã , and some short sections of the renewed part of north line could also permit higher speeds ...

But as in lisboa-porto some major sections of new line are needed they decided to built the HSL from scratch and stop the current upgrading program ... wich was becoming more like an urban redeveloplment plane (of all the towns and villages arround the line) than an line upgrade.

Basicaly what separates a 220kmh double track line from a 350km+100kmh 3/4 track is COST and DEMAND ... for instance North line is too saturated to alow the pendulinos to run at full speed in the middle of all the traffic and south line doen't even need to be duplicated.
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