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Old August 18th, 2015, 02:07 AM   #821
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43-Between Pocinho & Barca D`Alva [deactivated section since 1988]


44-Almendra Station-Between Pocinho & Barca D`Alva [deactivated section since 1988]


45-Grincha- Bridge-Between Pocinho & Barca D`Alva [deactivated section since 1988]


46-Grincha- Bridge-Between Pocinho & Barca D`Alva [deactivated section since 1988]


47-Barca D`Alva Statin [deactivated section since 1988]

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14-Bridge over the Roncão River-Between Pinhão & Tua
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17-Between Tua & Pocinho
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Old August 18th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #823
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Thanks for posting those images. A pity that line is no longer in operation. For me Portugal is a really beautiful country with people living a relaxed healthy life style. I also aprefiate the fact that Portugal did non engage in the hyperspeculation of real estate development like Spain did. In fact, Portugal still has very long stretches of coast lines that are not fuc*** up.
Also the fact that PT did not ventured in High Speed rail in UIC gauge might be considered helpful on the long run: The cost of such infrastructure qould have drained funds for other lines, reducing the long network to nearly nothing.

I am not sure if the privatization idea is good for maintaining human-centric life and styles, but it is probably necessary in a globalized economy dictate.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 12:23 PM   #824
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Thanks for posting those images. A pity that line is no longer in operation.


The Douro Line runs from Porto to Barca D`Alva (200Km) and then to Salamanca (Spain), but nowadays only the section between (Pocinho»Barca D`Alva) is closed. 4 in 4 years (goverment elections) there is talk of reopening this section for turism reasons.

Also there is a section, in Spain (that it was paid by the portuguese) that it would be amazing to travel, it is an alpine route with minimum radius curves of 300m and 21 ‰ ramps, in only 17 km of railway line with 13 steel bridges and 20 tunnels.

And old image from the internet (probably around 1984):

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» https://rotadostuneis.wordpress.com/rota-dos-tuneis/ [images & text in poruguese & spanish]

» https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnst...de_San_Esteban


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For me Portugal is a really beautiful country with people living a relaxed healthy life style.
It is a beautiful country, but we do not exact live in a relaxed healthy life style, for almost all the people it is the opposite, it is surviving day by day.


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I also aprefiate the fact that Portugal did non engage in the hyperspeculation of real estate development like Spain did.
Well, yes we did, not in a hyperspeculation like Spain, but we also had a very high real estate development.



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In fact, Portugal still has very long stretches of coast lines that are not fuc*** up.
True, but before the crisis we were doing the early steps of destroing her. Major luxury resorts were being planned (and they still are) for the coastal Alentejo area (from Setúbal-Sines-Sagres).€€€€€€

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Also the fact that PT did not ventured in High Speed rail in UIC gauge might be considered helpful on the long run:
The portuguese 1st phase of the HSL were Lisbon-Madrid (according to studies almost profitable), Lisbon-Porto (according to studies profitable, but very expensive to build it), and Porto-Vigo [Spain] (according to studies, not so profitable).

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The cost of such infrastructure qould have drained funds for other lines, reducing the long network to nearly nothing.
It will continue to reduce the network, the portuguese railroad network is still like it was built in the XIX century and early`s XX century (except around the Porto and Lisbon metroplitan areas and some bypasses that were made).

The portuguese goverment doesn`t care about the railroads!!


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I am not sure if the privatization idea is good for maintaining human-centric life and styles, but it is probably necessary in a globalized economy dictate.
So far, the only company that was privatize was the freight company owned by the national state company (CP).

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Old August 20th, 2015, 07:37 AM   #825
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Old August 20th, 2015, 02:15 PM   #826
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So far, the only company that was privatize was the freight company owned by the national state company (CP).
Aren't there also some privatized suburban/commuter operations in the Lisbon
area ? Fertagus, the lines going over the 25th april bridge ?
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Old August 21st, 2015, 03:06 PM   #827
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This is the Oriente station in Lisbon, whose project was developed by the Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava.

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Old August 21st, 2015, 08:33 PM   #828
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Cristo Rei, nearby the 25th of April bridge

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1-Acess to 25th of April Bridge (and Fertagus train at the bottom)

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Old August 29th, 2015, 04:08 PM   #829
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Aren't there also some privatized suburban/commuter operations in the Lisbon
area ? Fertagus, the lines going over the 25th april bridge ?
Sorry for answering just now!!


Yes you are correct, it is the Fertagus and it is a suburban/commuter operation that crosses the 25th April Bridge and ends on the Roma-Areeiro Station in Lisbon.

But this company was never privatized, it is a private owned company that has the concession for suburban/commuter operations in that line/area.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 12:40 PM   #830
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 04:39 PM   #831
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Map of the portuguese railways network for passenger services between 1974 and 2015

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P.S.: on the map of 1974 it lacks a 5th international connection of Barca D`Alva to Salamanca
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I think Northern Portugal and Alentejo were the most affected.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 10:52 PM   #833
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Guimarães Line (click here)


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Old September 17th, 2015, 11:17 PM   #834
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Three years later to suppress the service, the January 1, 2012, the Train de Portugal (CP) will return the passenger to Eastern Line.

The service is provided only for Friday and Sunday, and the first trip is scheduled for 18h20 of 25th September. Similar to what happened before the beginning of 2012, when CP decided that due to the country's economic situation, there were no conditions to continue to ensure railway operations, the East Line will restore the transport of passengers between Portalegre to Entroncamento, passing the stations and halts of Crato, Chança (Alter), the Vargens Tower, Ponte de Sor, Abrantes Tramagal, Santa Margarida, Praia do Ribatejo, Almourol, Tancos and Barquinha.


At this time the CP and Infrastructure Portugal (IP) are to conduct interventions in the lines and in stations, many of them abandoned since the beginning of 2012, so that on the 25th are met logistic conditions to reactivate the service.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 11:56 AM   #835
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Old October 3rd, 2015, 05:12 PM   #836
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Design Contest Launch of the rail link Évora-Caia (Spanish border)

Launch of the rail link Évora- Caia design contest

01.10.2015

The Infrastructure Portugal informs that initiated the procedures for the Preparation of the Project Implementation of the New Rail Link between Évora North and Elvas / Caia (Spanish border), with the following tenders were launched:

Lot A - Project Technical Coordination and general complementary tasks based price of 2.5 M euros and execution time 15 months;

Lot D - Via, Geotechnics and services, with a base price of 2.9m euros and an execution period of 15 months;

Lot C - Art and Special Structures works with a base price of 5.1 million euros and a period of 15 months running.

Soon advance the procedures related to tenders for:

Lot E - Eastern Line and links to the new line Evora - Caia with a base price of 900 thousand euros.



Hiring procedures, restricted procedures with pre-qualification, for the various specialties, were initiated under a system of qualification service providers for preparation of studies and projects and rail facilities design review in which there were nine candidates qualified, sedo the vast majority (7) groupings of project companies:

- Grouping: Phase - Studies and Projects, SA / Prointec, SA / Inse Rail, SL

- Grouping: Sener-Engivia - Engineering Consultants, SA / Via Ponte - Projects and Engineering Consulting, SA / Sener Ingenieria y Sistemas, SA

- Grouping: GIBB Portugal, Engineering Consultants, Management and Environment, SA / Quadrant Engineering and Consulting, SA / Propectiva, SA

- Grouping: COBA - Engineering and Environmental Consultants, SA / Typsa - Technical y Proyectos, SA / Tecnofisil - Engineering Consultants, SA / GRID - Consultations, Studies and Engineering Projects, SA



- Grouping: TPF Planege, Engineering and Management Consultants, SA / Getinsa - Payma, SL / Euroestudios, SL

- Grouping: Profico, Projects, Inspection and Consulting Ltd / Fulcrum - PLANNING, Análisis y Proyecto SA / Geoarea - Geotechnical and Environmental Consultants, Lda..

- WS Atkins (Portugal) - Consultants and Designers International Ltd, Chennai (now Atlas Koechlin, Engineering and Design, Unipessoal Lda).

- Grouping: Prof. Edgar Cardoso - Engineering Structures Laboratory, Ltd. / Intecsa Inarsa, SA.

- Consulgal, S.A.



International corridor Sines / Setúbal / Lisbon-Caia (border) with investment of about EUR 700 million



The launch of these competitions is carried out in compliance with the provisions of the Strategic Plan of Transport and Infrastructure 2014-2020 (PETIT 3+), with a view to concluding link Sines - Setúbal - Lisbon / Évora / Elvas - Caia / Madrid, with the construction this international rail link is completed in 2020.


The completion of Corridor Sines / Setúbal / Lisbon-Caia (Spanish border), considered a priority project with high potential for import and export in freight transport is intended to ensure the rail link between southern Portugal and Europe in order to facilitating a railway goods efficiently, allowing articulation with the Sines Port and Setubal.


Besides the construction of the connecting sections between Evora and Caia, the implementation of which represents an investment of around EUR 500 million, the project of the international Corridor Sines-Caia / Madrid, also includes:

- The construction of service stations and / or extension for crossing freight trains with 750 m in length;

- Installation / upgrading of signaling;

- The doubling of existing track and electrification of the new route between Poceirão and Bombel;

- Construction of new line between Évora North and Elvas (single electrified route, length of 79 km);

- The modernization and electrification of the East Line between Elvas and the border (extension 9 km) through which the connection will be ensured Spain;

- Link building between the Alentejo Line and the future container terminal of Barreiro;

- The optimization of the access to the Port of Setúbal and electrification of access extensions.



This connection is part of the so-called 'Atlantic Corridor' (South Corridor) linking the Iberian Peninsula and the ports of Le Havre and Rouen to Paris and Mannheim and Strasbourg (France and Germany).

It is therefore of great importance to the implementation of current construction and modernization project of the line providing the country with real capacity in rail freight, which are currently required to a long detour to reach Spain. This huge project of strategic importance for the development of the country, represents an estimated investment of about seven hundred million euros.
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I think Northern Portugal and Alentejo were the most affected.
Almost all railway lines in Northern Portugal had narrow gauge (1000 mm). These lines weren't rebuilt and CP decided to finished the services in these regions. Nowadays, the only narrow gauge line in operation in Portugal is Vouga Line, between Espinho, Sernada e Aveiro.

Porto-Povoa de Varzim narrow gauge line was rebuilt to operate as a light rail (Metro do Porto).

Recently, CP resumed the passenger train service to Portalegre.
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Google Train View on the Norte Line, Oeste Line, Douro Line & Cascais Line

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Google Train View in the Douro Line

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P.S.: also available on the Norte Line, Oeste Line, Sintra Line and Cascais Line.
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