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Old November 7th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #21
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The Chaillot palace works better, because it allows the space to flow towards and across the river. Otherwise those sharp angle streets would "crash" into a wall. It also gives the deserved attention to the Eiffel tower allowing it to become a focal point rather then treating it as something in the backyard. It is a tribute to the landmark.
Completly agree. The Chaillot Palace is a wonderful art-deco structure that has become itself a symbol of Paris. As much as I like a lot of 19thc architecture I think the Trocadero Palace is inferior design and no loss at all.
One of the greatest losses in France, IMO is the Abbey of Cluny not least because it was one of the most important buildings in Europe during the middle ages.
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Tour Aurore, one of the first French skyscrapers, is about to be demolished.
Thats annoying When was it built?
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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:28 AM   #23
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1970, although a much nicer tower will replace it, called Air²
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Eglise Saint-Jacques d'Abbeville (2013 )



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Old June 30th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #25
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WHY DID THEY DEMOLISH THAT CHURCH!?? It could have been used for another purpose!
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REUNIFICATION PALACE (INDEPENDENCE PALACE) - HO CHI MINH CITY (SAIGON), VIETNAM

BUILT IN 1868 AS A GOVERNOR'S PALACE OF COCHINCHINA (SOUTH VIETNAM) (MOST OF THE MATERIALS WERE IMPORTED FROM FRANCE). DESIGNED BY HERMITE, WHO WAS ALSO ARCHITECT THE HONGKONG CITY HALL

DESTROYED IN VIETNAM WAR IN 1962

REBUILT BY VIETNAMESE ARCHITECTURE IN 1962 TO BECOME A HOME OF A PRESIDENT OF SOUTH VIETNAM

AFTER FRENCH AND AMERICAN ARMY LEFT VIETNAM, THIS PALACE NOW OPEN FOR TOURIST

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Old July 1st, 2013, 10:22 AM   #27
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WHY DID THEY DEMOLISH THAT CHURCH!?? It could have been used for another purpose!
Lack of maintenance during the past decades which made it too expensive to renovate.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 02:35 PM   #28
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Castle of Coucy (northern France) :

The castle was built in the 13th century by Enguerrand III, Lord of Coucy.

The donjon was 31 meters in diameter for 54 meters high, what made the most mattering of Europe until 1917.

In the Revolution, the dismantled castle is sold and becomes a stony quarry.

In April 1917, the German army dynamited the keep and the four towers using 28 tons of explosives to prevent their use by enemy artillery spotters as the Germans fell back in the region

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I understand that it was very expensive to renovate the building, but this is still very sad and alarming. I've seen many old buildings (especially churches) in France and in other countries that were in a bad state. Our historic patrimony is so vast that it is impossible to keep it all in good shape. It's just too expensive. I hope we won't see this kind of demolition again in the future, but I fear the worst.
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That church could have been cut up and chipped to another country where that style is very rare and considered special.
There could have been some profit on that.
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Destroying older buildings makes more profit than renovating, because you then have a empty plot you can sell.
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This thread is going to be moved next door to the European Classical Architecture Forum.
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I understand that it was very expensive to renovate the building, but this is still very sad and alarming. I've seen many old buildings (especially churches) in France and in other countries that were in a bad state. Our historic patrimony is so vast that it is impossible to keep it all in good shape. It's just too expensive. I hope we won't see this kind of demolition again in the future, but I fear the worst.
Many churches are destroyed at the moment in France, as well as castles, manor houses... (100 in one year at least!)

The only reason is not only the money, a lot of mayors are responsable too.

For example : HERE (post #132)
The church was destroyed while the justice forbade it... And there are a lot of other example.

There are also investment funds and companies which buy the properties, to neglect them then, without maintenance...
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SUCH A COUNTRY WITH GRAET CULTURE, DESTROING CULTURAL HERITAGE IT'S RESULT OF HOLANDS POLICY?
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Don't panic it was just a XIX century neogothic. Wasn't worth much.
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Don't panic it was just a XIX century neogothic. Wasn't worth much.
With your logic Hausmann's Paris is not worth much and there would be no need to panic if it was demolished.
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Pompidou's Policy :

- Les Halles (1852-1870 by Victor Baltard)



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After (1971-1973) :









- Montparnasse Railway Station (1840) :

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After (1969) :




- Beaubourg :

Before :



After (parking then Centre Georges Pompidou inaugurated in 1977 ) :





Thank you Mr. Pompidou, the megalomaniac
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With your logic Hausmann's Paris is not worth much and there would be no need to panic if it was demolished.
True, but he is right in that 19th century neo-Gothic churches in France are not rare, nor ancient. I am far more upset at the dynamiting of the medieval castle than this church.
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 05:43 PM   #39
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Don't panic it was just a XIX century neogothic. Wasn't worth much.
In Lithuania neo-gothic style in churches architecture is one of the most common, so we have to demolish some churches too, to make it rarer and worth more (for what)?! What a logic
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Well, although destruction of Les Halles and Montparnasse Railway Station was regretable, I'd say that Centre Pompidou is very good development. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, pulling down the old buildings to create C. Pompidou had one more advantege since it opened the view for great Eglise Saint-Merri.

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Palais du Trocadero, built for the 1878 world's fair:

replaced by the ugly Chaillot palace for the 1937 world's fair:
Frankly speaking I much prefer this totalitarian-like style Palais Chaillot

Yes, I know, officially it's art deco
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