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Old July 23rd, 2013, 08:31 PM   #361
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Paris is amazing city!! My favorite place on earth!

I would love for NY to have it's museum city. Specifically relegated to residential neighborhoods such as the Upper East Side, Upper West Side, Greenwich Village, West Village, South Village, SoHo, NoHo and parts of the Lower East Side. These sections should be maintained and have new development staying true to their heritage aesthetically.

Best example is what Ralph Lauren did. He razed an old limestone mansion and replaced it with a modern limestone one in the Upper East Side. It is a beautiful building. I hope all developments in the upper east side can be like this and made into apartment buildings outfitted with modern technology. That is the nimby in me i guess.

Other than that, ALL business districts such as...

Midtown, Midtown South, Hudson Yards and Lower Manhattan should have the license to be free to any kind of development. Obviously the truly Iconic buildings such as the empire state building, Chrysler etc should be protected..

These sections of Manhattan should be what pushes NYC to the forefront of what a modern global city should be moving beyond the 21st century. Specifically, the more vertical the better!
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #362
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The Upper East Side has got to be one of the most boring and sterile neighborhood in the whole city. I'd rather live in Harlem or the Bronx than in the UES.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 09:54 PM   #363
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Other than that, ALL business districts such as...

Midtown, Midtown South, Hudson Yards and Lower Manhattan should have the license to be free to any kind of development. Obviously the truly Iconic buildings such as the empire state building, Chrysler etc should be protected..

These sections of Manhattan should be what pushes NYC to the forefront of what a modern global city should be moving beyond the 21st century. Specifically, the more vertical the better!
I think New York needs to finally start thinking beyond Manhattan. The borough is already far too developed. Sooner or later, there will be no more land available for new development. What then? Will the landmarks preservation commission make exceptions to allow for demolition of historic properties?

It would be wise and preferable for the city to start developing other business districts in other boroughs (Brooklyn and Queens), particularly those with good transit access like LIC, Downtown Brooklyn, Forest Hills and maybe Flushing Queens.

I'd love to see Queens Boulevard developed to its full potential and into New York's very own 'Wilshire Boulevard'. Unlike Wilshire Boulevard, Queens Boulevard has, not one, not two but FOUR subway lines running beneath it, connecting it with Manhattan, Long Island City and JFK airport. Why has New York not taken advantage of all this infrastructure yet!?
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 10:05 PM   #364
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I agree with you that the UES can be boring but that is my preference, but architecturally there is a lot of beauty in the Upper East Side.

For me, the UES is great for families and I personally enjoy the area very much. Plus I have one of the best back yards the city can offer in central park and the best museums a stone throw away. That is if a person enjoys such things, ultimately It is all a matter of taste and needs. To each its own.

If I want excitement and nightlife then I just hop on the train for a couple minutes and I got it. It does not have to be in my backyard where I'm raising my family. That is what is great about NYC.

I definitely agree with you about NY needing to look beyond Manhattan. I think the places you mentioned are starting to develop like Long Island City and Parts of Brooklyn with some exciting projects. I am looking forward towards those developments.

I envision Long Island City forming into a mini city kind of like the Jersey City Business district of the East River complete with commercial and residential high rise towers. Brooklyn has been on the up and up and there are many things going on with Brooklyn.

IMO, Queens definitely needs to step up it's game especially it has the infrastructure like you said and your idea of Queens blvd becoming the Wilshire Blvd would be amazing. I really don't know why Queens is not taking the initiative to improve itself more. Honestly, I think it could use it. I also hope the soccer stadium gets built on flushing meadows. That whole complex would be an amazing sports/entertainment venue. The stadium can do wonders for Queens.

Another thing Is I hope Queens develop it's water front along the East River. It would be a shame not to take advantage of that for development.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #365
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There is nice architecture that make for charming streets, especially more towards central park but closer to the east river it goes down hill. First and Second avenues are littered with huge tasteless buildings with terrible huge bases that make the avenues feel very unwelcoming and brutal. Many times, because the retail space is so huge in those buildings, the only type of businesses that take up shop are banks or duane reades. This repeats itself for the entire stretch of those avenues within UES. I've also noticed the UES to have much older residents. Considering that I'm quite young (very early 20's) I don't feel like I fit in. I much prefer the neighborhoods in lower manhattan and brooklyn that offer more for my age group. To each their own.

And yes, I had forgotten all about the new mls arena proposed for flushing meadows park. Although I haven't heard any recent news on it, I fear it may no longer be a serious proposal. There's also the whole Willets Point/Iron Triangle redevelopment. The whole Flushing area is booming, which is amazing considering it's completely far out there, away from Manhattan. If all is completed as planned, I could envision a street car connecting the stadiums with the new willets point neighborhood and ultimately downtown flushing.

A good start for Queens Boulevard would be making it feel more like an actual boulevard than a surface highway. Widening the central medians, planting more trees, and adding bike lanes would go a long way to making it look/feel much more welcoming for pedestrians. It's not called 'The Boulevard of Death' for nothing. Who wants to live/work near a highway? As for the Queens waterfront, Gantry State Park is very popular for its amazing views of midtown. There' development coming up and down the queens waterfront with a proposal in Astoria's hallets point and in LIC's Hunter's Point.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #366
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... Another one bites the dust.

This building is planned for demolition:
https://maps.google.no/maps?q=new+yo...1.83,,0,-47.74

(The building in the middle behind the church.)

https://www.google.no/search?client=...ml%3B359%3B479

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Old July 25th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #367
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It looks like the board of Trinity Church are suffering from the sin of greed.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #368
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Shame to see such a good looking heritage building go. Why is the church doing it? Considering its location they must be pretty well off already, no?
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Old July 26th, 2013, 12:03 AM   #369
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Yay now they want to destroy one of my favorite skyscrapers.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 01:22 AM   #370
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Closer look of it (to the left).


https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/82443460

It's completely crazy that they are still taking down buildings like this.
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Is it even on the register?
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Old July 26th, 2013, 06:49 PM   #372
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It is not listed as one of the individual buildings here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ow_14th_Street

But I don't know if it belongs to one of the "historic districts" zones though. Does not seems to have done much good for it anyway if it is there.
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Old July 26th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #373
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Closer look of it (to the left).


https://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/82443460

It's completely crazy that they are still taking down buildings like this.
That is disgusting! It seems New York has not learnt from past mistakes! Too many glass and steel skyscrapers make for a totally banal and boring built environment. If they must redevelop that site for financial reasons at least they could engage a talented architect such as R.A.M. Stern who would design something to complement the church and immediate surroundings. I thought the days of the NYC losing it's unique heritage high rise buildings was over but clearly the City of Mamon is alive and well! (Unfortunately NYC is not alone in this, the city of London still continues to demolish fine old structures as well)
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Old July 26th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #374
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That is disgusting! It seems New York has not learnt from past mistakes! Too many glass and steel skyscrapers make for a totally banal and boring built environment. If they must redevelop that site for financial reasons at least they could engage a talented architect such as R.A.M. Stern who would design something to complement the church and immediate surroundings. I thought the days of the NYC losing it's unique heritage high rise buildings was over but clearly the City of Mamon is alive and well! (Unfortunately NYC is not alone in this, the city of London still continues to demolish fine old structures as well)
In this case Barcelona is the best exemple to follow!
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Old July 29th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #375
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... Another one bites the dust.

This building is planned for demolition:
https://maps.google.no/maps?q=new+yo...1.83,,0,-47.74

(The building in the middle behind the church.)

https://www.google.no/search?client=...ml%3B359%3B479

To be replaced with this:



Tread here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post105575663
they are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 04:05 AM   #376
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I'll tell you what's happening.

Arrogance and stupidity.

Modernist architects believe themselves superior to these long dead architects and their structures, though the fact of the matter is that these modern architects are talentless and incapable in comparison (they are a JOKE in comparison). The destruction of such proportion, ornamentation, and glory is the sign not only of contempt but also a fetish for destruction of everything that makes NYC a destination to begin with (and that which they could never make themselves).

People will not go to NYC to see a sea of glass shards, nor will they go to see the inflated egos of incapable fools we call architects (those who attempt to shame us into believing the ugly is beautiful.)

The destruction of these structures will be mourned by those who are still capable of thought, but those brainwashed by the modernist mantra will continue to destroy everything until they are stopped.

The modernist ideology is a cancer.
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Old August 2nd, 2013, 04:51 AM   #378
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Millionares? Anyone?

Subsequence .. I trully wish I could do that tho.

That building has a lot of empty space in the back, one tall glass tower could be built there without disturbing much of the existing building and there for regaining much of the money lost in refurbishing and restoring the old building with the sales of the office, living or watever space in the new glass tower.
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On the other hand, the Pennsylvania Hotel was about to get demolished, but - thanks God - the owners changed their minds and now it's being refurbished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Pennsylvania



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Hopefully the Trinity Church building won't be razed... if only the owners understood that old buildings are more profitable due to their historical charms...
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In this case Barcelona is the best exemple to follow!
I disagree: IMHO a lot of Barcellona's contemporary buildings haven't aged well.
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