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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:12 PM   #21
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I think people are confusing corporation limit with CMDA limit. Proposal is only to increase the CMDA limit for the purpose of planning and approvals and not to increase the corporation limit
Chennai District(collectorate) size is smaller than City of Chennai limit.

City of Chennai Limit is smaller than CMDA limit.

Chennai population of 4.6 million is reference to Chennai District not CoC limit.

That is why chennai ranks 6th in Indian cities population list (not 4th as it should be)

Chennai District limit is very small and has not been increased in many decades.

Chennai District limit should be increased at least to City of Chennai limit.

Police, CMDA,Corporation, Administration (collector) each having different city limit is stupid.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #22
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I think people are confusing corporation limit with CMDA limit. Proposal is only to increase the CMDA limit for the purpose of planning and approvals and not to increase the corporation limit
Corporation limit extends upto chennai district...i hope you know that...with the CMDA's proposal to increase its limits the chennai Corp also is planning to expand... a city has to expand with its growing population...

when we claim Mahindra info city belongs to chennai...no harm claiming chennai's CMDA's limit's as Corp's limits..

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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #23
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Hosur included in Bangalore metropolitan area? ha ha. What do u think it is National capital region comprising of Delhi, its borders with UP and Haryana?
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just 1 more thing....when did Delhi become NCR ....? i hope u understood my question..
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Old November 6th, 2012, 10:24 PM   #24
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Chennai District(collectorate) size is smaller than City of Chennai limit.

City of Chennai Limit is smaller than CMDA limit.

Chennai population of 4.6 million is reference to Chennai District not CoC limit.

That is why chennai ranks 6th in Indian cities population list (not 4th as it should be)

Chennai District limit is very small and has not been increased in many decades.

Chennai District limit should be increased at least to City of Chennai limit.

Police, CMDA,Corporation, Administration (collector) each having different city limit is stupid.

Cofee

Chennai's city limit (metro city limit ) is now 400 + SQ KM....may be the chennai district is smaller....
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Old November 7th, 2012, 06:24 AM   #25
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Corporation limit extends upto chennai district...i hope you know that...with the CMDA's proposal to increase its limits the chennai Corp also is planning to expand... a city has to expand with its growing population...

when we claim Mahindra info city belongs to chennai...no harm claiming chennai's CMDA's limit's as Corp's limits..

Harm or no harm and we claim or not are not the issues here.

Officially City corporation limit is different from CMDA limit. ( Chennai district limit is again different)

Rippon building where the corporation members are sitting is dealing with the areas within the corporation limit.

Planning to expand in the future is a hypothetical situation.

Gadkari may be planning to become PM but right now PM is Manmohan singh
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Old November 7th, 2012, 06:42 AM   #26
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Agreed....my opinion as a future Vision...

But again for those who do not know

Bangalore Metropolitan area includes Hosur...

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Old November 7th, 2012, 08:07 AM   #27
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Agreed....my opinion as a future Vision...

But again for those who do not know

Bangalore Metropolitan area includes Hosur...

Hmm

Hosur in TN and Bengaluru in Karnataka and

Hosur in Bengaluru Metro region... ??????
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Old November 7th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #28
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Hmm

Hosur in TN and Bengaluru in Karnataka and

Hosur in Bengaluru Metro region... ??????
and Bengaluru is a satellite city of TN
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Old November 7th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #29
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Agreed....my opinion as a future Vision...

But again for those who do not know

Bangalore Metropolitan area includes Hosur...

http://www.bmrda.kar.nic.in/
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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:25 PM   #30
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In that case Hosur is in Karnataka.Even the name sounds kannada as Hosa means new in Kannada.But I have been travelling to Hosur now and then where i see all the name boards in tamil.It is part of Dharmapuri dist in TN just like Nellore which sounds tamil as nell means paddy in tamil but in A.P.Chitoor,Tirupati Tirumala are tamil names but are part of A.P
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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM   #31
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In that case Hosur is in Karnataka.Even the name sounds kannada as Hosa means new in Kannada.But I have been travelling to Hosur now and then where i see all the name boards in tamil.It is part of Dharmapuri dist in TN just like Nellore which sounds tamil as nell means paddy in tamil but in A.P.Chitoor,Tirupati Tirumala are tamil names but are part of A.P
Krishnagiri dist in TN..
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Old November 7th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #32
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chebang is correct bangalore metro agglomeration consists of hosur talk of krishnagiri district in tamil nadu according to 2011 latest census read the proof here:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...areas_in_India

but however chennai consists of only1189 sq km and not the entire tiruvallur,and kanchipuram district where as bangalore includes urban,rural districts.if connectivity is taken vellore to west and kanchipuram to east as to be included in chennai along with kanchi,and tiruvallur district.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #33
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It is actually advantage for Hosur as they will be included in urban planning and investment meets of Bangalore. If Bangalore has any chance in competing in manufacture it needs to include Hosur in its planning and investments as that is a major feeder of parts supplies.

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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM   #34
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Corporation limit extends upto chennai district...i hope you know that...with the CMDA's proposal to increase its limits the chennai Corp also is planning to expand... a city has to expand with its growing population...

when we claim Mahindra info city belongs to chennai...no harm claiming chennai's CMDA's limit's as Corp's limits..

Chebang you are incorrect.

Chennai District (Collectorate) is so small it does not even include Mugaperu, Ambathur, part of Koyambedu etc.

People mistake "Chennai District"limit equal to "Chennai Corporation" limit.

Chennai District (Revenue collectorate ) is only 178.2 SQKM

It only has 5 Taluks.

Say if you want Patta for land in Mugaperu it needs to come from Thiruvalur collector. For Thorapakkam Kanchipuram collector.

In the same area you need road or garbage clearance then it is responsiblity of Chennai Corporation.

I found out Chennai Population record of 4.6 Million refers to "Chennai District" (178 sqkm)

I also found that collector post for Chennai is the least preferred by IAS officers as Chennai collector has minimal powers as most department are separated from collectorate as a stand alone departments unlike in other districts.

A school in perungudi gets audited by DEO from Kanchipuram Dt no Chennai DEO.

Strange but true

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenn...rict#section_5

http://www.chennai.tn.nic.in/
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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:44 PM   #35
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At some point in time, TN govt. should move its ass and rationalize all these things, if Chennai wants to be in the top league of cities.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #36
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On the Contrary, TN is also worried that if they announce that 8000 sq. km as Chennai limit.....people will start accumulating/buying properties all over the place....it will become far more difficult for SG to create any land banks for industrialization.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #37
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At some point in time, TN govt. should move its ass and rationalize all these things, if Chennai wants to be in the top league of cities.
Well said...there's so much confusion in the offing , if this is not done
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Old November 7th, 2012, 07:51 PM   #38
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Expansion helps in planning for bigger projects.

But administration and day to day issues it is better to have it smaller sized local bodies.

You cannot get our officials, with bigger waist sizes to travel 20Km to oversee a road patchwork or other stuff.

So there should be two planning bodies. one for bigger projects and one for smaller one.

I would like Chennai to remain the same. There is no need to expand the city limits. But we need other centers like Tambaram, Ambattur, etc.

In western countries, everything is decentralized. That helps in getting quicker response and progress. But there should be higher offices which should have authority so that major projects can be implemented.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #39
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For all the naysayers......at some point in time, Chennai and Bangalore could become part of a single UA if we follow china model.

PS > CBIC is the first step towards that and the next big reorg of states will be based on cities and UA's.


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China to create largest mega city in the world with 42 million people

China is planning to create the world's biggest mega city by merging nine cities to create a metropolis twice the size of Wales with a population of 42 million.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...on-people.html

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Old November 12th, 2012, 02:14 PM   #40
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If we are to create a mega metropolis then Chennai,Bangalore, Pondicherry, Vellore, Tirupathi, Kanchipuram, Hosur may come in the picture.
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