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Old November 11th, 2012, 01:49 PM   #1
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European Championships in London?

I was thinking, with the fate of Euro's in 2020 and 2024 being decided soon, is London capable of holding the tournament in the city alone, not around the whole of England, just London? England are not going to bid for either tournament as far as we know, but even if they did it would be hard to pick 8 or 10 stadiums around the country because there are so many to choose from.

Stadiums need a minimum capacity of 30,000 and must be classified 'Elite' by UEFA. The stadium requirements for Euro 2016 were as set out below. However, Euro 2016 will now use 10 stadiums rather than the 9 initially specified, so the 2020 bidding process may adopt a new formula. They need 2 stadiums of 50,000 or morer although I think the final stadium needs to hold 60,000. Plus 3 stadiums with 40,000 seats and 4 with 30,000 seats.

London currently has 7 stadiums which hold above 30,000. Some of these may be suitable, some may not. Ideally, they need 10. Luckily, London as a city does not have the problem that most countries face in that there are several tennants around London who would fill a larger stadium with about 30k seats where their current stadium holds around 20k.

The city has more stadiums that are good enough to hold europian championship games than countries like Ukraine, Austria and Switzerland had before they held the tournament. Obviously the city itself has an infastructure good enough to hold a major tournament, as the Olympics proved.

The Stadiums:

1. Wembley Stadium
Capacity: 90,000
Location: Wembley
Year Built: 2007
Comments: The biggest stadium in London and Britain. Would hold the Final and most likely the opening match too. Obviously all stadiums would be used for Group Matches too.

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2. Twickenham Stadium
Capacity: 82,000
Location: Richmond upon Thames
Year Built: 1909
Comments: The home of Rugby in England. Possible would not allow the use of it in the championships which could be a problem. Deals could be negociated involving the use of football stadia in the Rugby WOrld Cup 2015 in return. If the FA could get permission from the RFU to use the stadium then it could be used to hold Quater or Semi final matches.

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3. Olympic Stadium
Capacity: 80,000
Location: Stratford
Year Built: 2011
Comments: Held the Olympics this year. Currently holds 80,000 but plans are for it to be reduced to 60,000. These will definatly go ahead but if this bid was to happen then they may wait until after the tournament and keep it as an 80k seater for the tournament. As it was built for athletics it offers poor sigtlines from many areas, especiallt the lower tier, but it would definately have the facilities and infastucture to hold a major tournament. If kept at 80k capacity, it would hold a quarter or semi final, but if reduced to 60k then it may only hold group games or Round of 16 games.

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4. Emirates Stadium
Capacity: 60,000
Location: Islington
Year Built: 2006
Comments: Home of Arsenal FC, great facilities and fans sit close to the pitch as it is a stadium built for football. Could hold a Quarter Final, Semi Final or 3rd Place Final match.

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5. Stamford Bridge
Capacity: 41,838
Location: Fulham
Year Built: 1877
Comments: Home of Chelsea FC. The club are looking into finding a new home and recently failed in a bid to convert the Battersea power station into a 60k seater football stadium. The club are now looking at ways to upgrade The Bridge to 60k. If it was to hold a major football tournament then that would be the perfect excuse for the club to increse the capcity or look at relocation again. For now, this would hold Round of 16 or Quarter Final matches.

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6. White Hart Lane
Capacity: 36,214
Location: Tottenham
Year Built: 1898
Comments: Historic home of Totteham Hotspur, large enough to hold at least Group Stage games at a Europian Championships, although there are some views restricted because of supporting pillars.

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New Tottenham Stadium
Capacity: 56,250
Location: Tottenham?
Year Built: Not yet built
Comments: Plans for a new stadium to replace White Hart Lane. If built, then it could hold a Quarter Final match and Round of 16 matches. A suitable location stiull hasn't been found but the club has strong intentions to move somewhere bigger.

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7. Boleyn Ground (Upton Park)
Capacity: 35,016
Location: Upton Park
Year Built: 1904
Comments: Home of West Ham United, however could be demolished if the club complete a move to the nearby Olympic Stadium. However, there is (or was) also planning permission to increse the capacity to 40,000 by rebuilding the East stand. Would hold a Round of 16 match.

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8. The Valley
Current Capacity: 27,000
Upgraded Capacity: 40,000
Location: Charlton
Year Built: 1919
Comments: Charlton FC, who play at The Valley, are looking at upgrading the stadium to 40 thousand seats. This will be done in 3 stages, first a second tier will be put on the South Stand bringing the capacity up to 32k, secondly the south west corner will be filled in and finally a third tier could be added to the South Stand. Once upgraded, it could hold Round of 16 or Quarter final matches.

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9. Craven Cottage
Current Capacity: 25,600
Upgraded Capacity: 30,000
Location: Fulham
Year Built: 1896
Comments: Permission has been given for a new Riverside Stand to be built bringing the capcity up to 30,000. However, several views in the old main stand are obstructed by supporting pillers so it may not be good enough to be used in a major tournament. If it is, it could hold a Round of 16 game. The first picture shows the new Riverside Stand, the second shows Craven Cottage as it is now.

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10. Selhurst Park
Current Capacity: 26,300
Upgraded Capacity: 32,000
Location: Crystal Palace
Year Built: 1924
Comments: Palace's home could recieve upgrades to bring the capacity up to 32,000 in the next few years although the club are also considering relocation. Extending the current two tier Holmesdale End and filling the two corners at that end would increse the capacity to 32,000.

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New Crystal Palace Stadium
Capacity: 40,000
Location: Crystal Palace
Year Built: Not yet built
Comments: Was once a possiblility, the club are still looking at moving away from Selhurst Park. If built, it could hold Round of 16 games.

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11. New QPR Stadium
Capacity: 45,000
Location: White City
Year Built: Not yet built
Comments: The size of QPR's new stadium has not been decided but will be somewhere between 40k and 45k. Although no official plans have been released (So I dont have any pictures), it will have a retractable roof and be located in one of 2 sites the club are looking at in West London. It will not be a bowl style stadium, the chairman said, because the club want to keep the atmosphere. It could hold a Round of 16 or a Quarter final match.

12. Lionel Road Stadium
Capacity: 15,000
Location: Hounslow
Year Built: Not yet built
Comments: A planned new stadium for Brentford football club. Plans could be to extend the stadium to 30,000 temporarily for the tournment.

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There are also a few local sides who could fill a 30,000+ capacity stadium but there are no plans to build something new or upgrade their current home. Watford and Milwall are 2 teams who I beleve could play comfortably in a 30k capacity stadium, but there are no plans to increse their capacities to that or build a new stadium. As well as the two championship football teams, there is Leyton Orient, Dagenham & Redbridge and Wimbledon in Leagues 1 and 2. Plus, London Wasps rugby team are looking at moving out of their home in Wycombe to somewhere new, possibly a new stadium which could be used in this tournament. There are several cricket stadiums that could be extended to 30k fairly easily but they don't offer the best views for football. If a new stadium was built specificly for the tournament, im sure it could find tennants after, if you look at the different bids for the Olympic stadium. Prehaps a London team in the NFL (Who are looking at setting up a franchise over here) could become tennants of a new stadium somewhere in the city.



So, what do you think? Is London capable of holding the European championships alone and should they?
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Old November 11th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #2
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It's a far more sensible proposition than Doha hosting the much bigger World Cup. Could you see any politician going for it even if all the "ifs" in your scenario work out postively though?

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The hypothetical question as to whether London is capable is more intersting though.

Just a point of clarification...

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New Tottenham Stadium
Capacity: 56,250
Location: Tottenham?
Year Built: Not yet built
Comments: Plans for a new stadium to replace White Hart Lane. If built, then it could hold a Quarter Final match and Round of 16 matches. A suitable location stiull hasn't been found but the club has strong intentions to move somewhere bigger.
The location isn't in question.

The Northumberland Development Project is in full swing and this stadium will almost certainly be built just to the north of the current stadium by 2016.

The first enabling development, a large Sainsbury's Supermarket is already being built, the club are looking to finance a free school and technical college as part of the development as well, and the Mayor is committed to the development as part of the regeneration of the area post-riots.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spur...-18092012.page

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Old November 11th, 2012, 03:15 PM   #3
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Exactly, I think giving the World Cup to Quatar was a ridiculous decision and im sure they will regret it when they see how bad it will be (Shit crowds, Stupid weather, 12 purpuse built stadiums with no character which will be completely wasted after the tournament). The country itself is very small, as far as I know it's smaller than London, so the tournament will be held in a veruy small area. If you look at it like that, holding a smaller tounament in just London dosen't seem so unusual. The city already has more capable stadiums and more teams that could fill a larger stadium than Quatar does.

Why does it need to be anything to do with the PM? Can't Boris Johnson or the FA choose to put it in one particular place? I know that countries bidding at the moment are only allowed 2 stadia per city maximum, so they couldnt just bid as England then put all the stadiums in London. There must be a way for a city to bid on its own.
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Some more aspects to think of:
- at least 24 top-notch training facilities, but preferably more so that teams can choose. But for facilities you can go outside of London too (same for residential facilities).
- also, how many extra tourists would this mean for London, two or three hundred thousand? Surely the hotel capacity would need improvement, same for the urban mobility capacity for certain lines.
- how would Londoners feel about an attempt to summit the largest ever number of football fans in one place, their city? Surely the chances for unpleasant scenes would be unprecedented. At least if you split a tournament in eight or ten cities you diminish the chances of having Serbian and Croatian or Russian and Polish or Turkish and Greek etc fans in one place...
- and finally, what I think it is the most important issue: it might be a tournament with low attendances. I don't have figures but I would suspect an average of 50% of a EURO or World Cup match attendances consists of locals. In the case of a city-based tournament, the offer would be much, much higher than the demand. Normally a single-stadium city gets to host a maximum of six to eight matches, but in this case London would host 52. That's too much for the Londoners' interest and money to spend, IMO. Would you go and watch Norway - Latvia when you're so spoilt for choice? Just imagine the group stage: two matches each day for eighteen consecutive days! How much money and time could you invest in going at those matches? On the positive side, if there's any place in the world where this could be done, it's London.
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Old November 11th, 2012, 07:40 PM   #5
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Ok, ill try and give you some answers. Lets break this down.

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At least 24 top-notch training facilities, but preferably more so that teams can choose. But for facilities you can go outside of London too (same for residential facilities)
This is an advantage of holding the tounament in one fairly large city, teams can locate themselves in or around the city and get to each venue they are playing at very easily.

I think there are 24 good enough facilities in or around the city. There are 10 premier league and championship training grounds in or around london, plus Reading which is probably close enough. As well as these there are plenty of rugby grounds and stadiums with under 10,00 seats that would be good ewnough for internationals to train in. England ended up with the Hutnik Municipality Stadium in Poland, i'm sure we have 24 better training facilities than that.

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How many extra tourists would this mean for London, two or three hundred thousand? Surely the hotel capacity would need improvement, same for the urban mobility capacity for certain lines.
How would Londoners feel about an attempt to summit the largest ever number of football fans in one place, their city? Surely the chances for unpleasant scenes would be unprecedented. At least if you split a tournament in eight or ten cities you diminish the chances of having Serbian and Croatian or Russian and Polish or Turkish and Greek etc fans in one place....
Ive joined up these issues as they are very similar. This year the city held the olympics. It was estimated that about 600,000 visitors from abroad visited London for the olympic games. All of these visitors were travelling to 3 places within London, the Olympic park, the Excel or the O2 arena, plus a few minor places that were either small or only held events on a couple of days.

There will be 52 games in the Euros, with each stadium holding 50,000 on average and there will only be 1 or 2 matches per day. Well over 2 million people use the underground per day, so there would only be a slight increse proportianly. The point i'm trying to make is, if the city can hold an Olympic's, i think it would be ok through a European championships. However as people will be going to different places rather than the same 3 or 4 places throught the entire event, some underground stations and lines would need upgraded to deal with the incresed traffic but every saturday football fans use the underground to get to their games so I doubt it would be much of a problem.

Opposing groups of fans in the same city shouldnt be too bad either, its a big city with plenty of hotels and areas. Like I said, Quatar is smaller so they are more likely to see a problem than London. Like the Olympics we could call in extra policing at it would all be fine. Fans from certain countries would all stay in one area anyway, just make sure opposing countries arent right next to each other.


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And finally, what I think it is the most important issue: it might be a tournament with low attendances. I don't have figures but I would suspect an average of 50% of a EURO or World Cup match attendances consists of locals. In the case of a city-based tournament, the offer would be much, much higher than the demand. Normally a single-stadium city gets to host a maximum of six to eight matches, but in this case London would host 52. That's too much for the Londoners' interest and money to spend, IMO. Would you go and watch Norway - Latvia when you're so spoilt for choice? Just imagine the group stage: two matches each day for eighteen consecutive days! How much money and time could you invest in going at those matches? On the positive side, if there's any place in the world where this could be done, it's London.
I doubt that would be a problem. Remember, the pool isnt just all of London, its all of Britain. I understand what you mean but at the same time would you expect womens paralympic weightlifting to be packed at the Excel in the Olympics? And it was. People would want tickets and they would take anything they can. Football fans from all around the country would flock to see matches. If you do a ticketing system similar to the olympics (Several seating catogories, best seats to worst seats ranging in price) then eventually all the tickets will go, just like the obscure events in the olympics and paraympics all sold out eventually.
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London have a tremendous number of football stadiums and sure could hold it. The problem would be english, germans, dutch, russians, poles,kroatians, greeks and turks all in the same place. You would need like a million police
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Thanks for the reply Leedsrule, all points are very valid. I was wondering what an estimate would be for the number of tourists that came in for the Olympics, I had not yet seen anything previously. The 600k figure puts my worries about crowding to rest. Still not completely convinced about the hooliganism potential; it is much easier for ultras to come from various European countries to London than it would be for them to reach Qatar, and also in world cups the assembled teams come from all over the world hence less fan rivalries. (Which is why fan violence is rare at World Cups while there have been incidents at all of the last three Euros.) I happened to cross Trafalgar square in 2009 with it invaded by Croatian fans, and while it was OK, I wouldn't have liked to have been there had, say, Serbian fans also been in the city at that same time.
The point about the demand coming from all of England / UK is valid, so leaving the practical aspect aside, wouldn't it be fairer to UK/England people to bring the tournament to them, like in a normal case, instead of forcing them to come to London? Would having it in London would add that much to the experience?

One last thing - I don't know how this applies to Londoners or if it all, but here it is: I live in Paris and thinking of Euro 2016, I would find it a poor tournament if it was to be held somehow in Paris/Ile-de-France only; instead, I want to make trips during the tournament and explore several French cities during the rare occasion of them hosting such a football festival.
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after the Olympic games, the inglish started raving...the worst, that in the more deeply of his pride they want it.

you could organize the bullfighting season world tb... and all events in the whole world...



so many stadiums and only one Uefa Champions League......tha the powerfull France...


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Old November 12th, 2012, 11:51 AM   #9
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I understand what you maen about the different fans all in one city, its a good point, thanks for bringing it up. I dont have an answer for it to be honest but im sure someone will. Good policing is a must and I guess the Euro's is more likely to have incidents or violence than the Olympics but i'm sure the polics could cope and there must be a way you can seggrigate dangerous fans into areas away from other dangerous fans, escort them to matches and put restrictions on how much alcohol they can buy or how late they can stay out. If the high speed link from London to Birmingham is built you could always locate some fans up there.

I'm not a resident of London, but I live in Surrey which is just out side London. I guess people, especialy in the north of England, might get frustrated that its held in just one city but transpoort links are good enough that they can still come down for games or stay down in London for a fortnight. And anyway, the only rreason I even suggested having it in just London was because there are so many stadiums around England in different cities which are good enough and so many, especially the London ones, would go to waste. There are 24 stadiums that are big enough and that dosent include the Olympic stadium, so thats 25 you'd need to cut down to 12. There are another 15 which hold more than 25k but under 30k. As well as the 25 already big enough, there are a few planned or being built and UEFA wouldn't just want the tournament to be done in ready built stadiums.

It just feels like if we held a tournament in all of England, there would be so many good stadiums wasted. If you have to cut 40 odd stadiums down to 10 or 11, why not just pick the 10 or 11 in London rather than all over the place? And anyway, maybe having it all in one city would add to the experiance and atmosphere. All the fans, all the teams, all the games in one city would create a great atmosphere I think. If you held it all around the country you wouldnt create that same experiance. In the same way, I would be happy to hold the tournament in just, say, the Liverpool and Manchester area. I would go up there for a week and see whatever games I can. Finally, If you did spread it around the country, you'd be giving cities like Ipswich or Plymouth or Sunderland shocking games like Serbia vs Norway, most of the fans from there would go somewhere else to see the good games anyway. Why not just put the bad games in the same city as the good games?

Your final point about 2016 and Paris, I understand what you mean but France is a lot more fun and diverse than England which is a bit dull and misrable. Trust me, ive been everywhere following my local team, once you've passed Luton it all gets a bit depressing. And you would only be going to other cities to watch either sit or good games anyway. If they are good, wouldnt it be better to have them in your city and if they are bad then why would you want to travel to them? Also, London is bigger than Paris so it would be slightly different.
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It's a far more sensible proposition than Doha hosting the much bigger World Cup.
Do you really want to compare the circumstances of the WC 2022 awarding to Qatar and a EURO Championship???

London is -no doubt- the world capital stadiumwise, nevertheless the UEFA will never award the competition to a single city!

What about a GB or England/Scotland bid, this would be a great idea!
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Do you really want to compare the circumstances of the WC 2022 awarding to Qatar and a EURO Championship???!
Whats wrong with that? Picking Qatar for the WC was a worse descision than awarding the euro's to London would be.

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What about a GB or England/Scotland bid, this would be a great idea!
Probably not right now, but it is certainly possible and may be an option in the future when London grows even bigger. This thread was about exploring the possibility of London holding the tournament on its own and discussing if it would be possible, if it is possible then why wouldn't they award the Euro's to a city rather than an entire nation? There are positives of just holding it in one city.

A GB or England Scotland bid would be great for the World cup but not for the euro's. In fact, I was dissapointed when England were bidding for WC 2018 alone as there are so many great stadiums in Wales and Scotland too (Millenium Stadium, Hamden Park, Murrayfield). England are easily capable of holding a European championships alone, like I said it would be difficult to cut all the potential venues down to 10 or so. Adding stadiums from Wales and Scotland to the mix would make that descision even harder, it would be pointless to do a GB bid for the Euro's when England or even London could hold it on its own.
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Old November 13th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #12
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^ Don't you think, though, that bidding for a London EURO would take away from the chances of England hosting the WC? The first WC England is eligible for is 2026 and surely there will be a bid for that - which would be too close to 2028 (I suppose 2024 will be a "normal" EURO if 2020 is indeed an all-continent tournament).

I just hope you don't perceive my comments as shooting down the idea, heh, what I think is that if we go through all the discussion points then the idea will emerge as more credible. To focus a bit on the positives now, here are some points. A city-based tournament would be a fan's dream, something that every tournament tries at least on paper to be: a football festival. It would give those who really love the game to come to one place where they can see all the football they want with the least travel and expense required. Journalists can tell how important is that - the nerves & physical endurance test that covering a tournament represents is regular business for them (here's an example). The feel-good factor could go sky-high.
Another point: a successful city-based tournament would show other cities how useful it is, for tourism, economic development, social cohesion etc. if they improve their sporting facilities and support sporting competitions. There are a few cities on the top of my head who would use some improvement in this sense, like Paris, Rome, Vienna, Copenhagen, Brussels, etc.
Finally, if a 32-teams world cup can be hosted with eight venues, then surely a 24-teams tournament could be hosted with six or a maximum of eight venues. I know the current requirements are of a minimum of nine venues, but exceptions can be made - going from a country-based tournament to a continent-based tournament is surely a much more important an exception. With eight venues, it would perfectly doable.
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I dont percive your comments as shooting down the idea at all, you are absolutely right we have to discuss all the points and posiblilities to credit it.

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To focus a bit on the positives now, here are some points. A city-based tournament would be a fan's dream, something that every tournament tries at least on paper to be: a football festival. It would give those who really love the game to come to one place where they can see all the football they want with the least travel and expense required. Journalists can tell how important is that - the nerves & physical endurance test that covering a tournament represents is regular business for them (here's an example). The feel-good factor could go sky-high.
Ha, why couldn't I put it like that :L But thats exactly what I mean.

And yeah, you are right, it could show other cities how much it could benifit a them financially. There arent any other cities that currentlty have the stadiums to hold it though or the teams to fuill them after, so this may end up being a one off thing.

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Don't you think, though, that bidding for a London EURO would take away from the chances of England hosting the WC? The first WC England is eligible for is 2026 and surely there will be a bid for that - which would be too close to 2028 (I suppose 2024 will be a "normal" EURO if 2020 is indeed an all-continent tournament).
Possibly, but not neccacarily. I always thought the WC bid was a bad idea because FIFA like to spread the stadiums out across the country, so we would end up with massive stadiums in Bristol and Plymouth, both of which average about 6,000 a game. When the WC was in Germany, they built a big stadium in Liepzig that rarely gets half full now. Either way, im sure England could bid for the World cup if only London got the euro's, only 2 or 3 satdiums would overlap and be used in both tournaments.

If they chose to do 2020 continent-wide, I cant see them going back to having it in countries. If they do it, they'll do it for good and it'll be like that for at least the next few championships.
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I love this idea! Bugger it! London to replace Qatar for 2022!
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Just bumping this thread, and putting forward the idea of a fantasy tournaments thread. I love this London fantasy idea for the Euro's or even FIFA World Cup. I reckon we should pitch a few ideas on this forum, for other fantasy tournaments.

I can think of a few:
- an Australia-New Zealand FIFA World Cup.
- a South America non-Argentina/Brazil FIFA World Cup
- a Scotland Rugby World Cup
- FIFA World Cup Malaysia-Indonesia.
- Dublin/All-Ireland Olympic Games
- A FIFA World Cup held in ONE state of the USA?

Name the stadia or venues, travel distances etc. Would be ideal for a stadium nerd like me!
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This isn't really the place fordiscussing ideas for the rugby WC, for example, so I started a new thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post101369145
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Great stuff!
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I think it should be held only in the North of England & Midlands, more footballing heritage, better stadiums, more variety, safer etc. The London idea was interesting as an 'is it possible?' question but in reality it's a shockingly poor idea!
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I think it should be held only in the North of England & Midlands, more footballing heritage, better stadiums, more variety, safer etc. The London idea was interesting as an 'is it possible?' question but in reality it's a shockingly poor idea!
What? More footballing heritage? I doubt it, and it dosen't really matter anyway, london has enough footballing heritage. Better stadiums? I doubt it. Old trafford is not as good as Wembley, and the Olympic Stadium and the Emirates are 2 of the most modern stadioums in England. More variety? I don't know what you mean by this- but it's bigger, sure. The whole point of this idea was to create a vibrant tournament atmoshere in one city, with all the fans in a small area. And Safer? How? London has better infastructure and it can cope with the visitors, as proven by the Olympics.
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London could host a world cup ffs ,theyre more capable than Qatar.Do the RFU allow football on Twickenham?
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