Airlines, Airplanes, and Airports

[absent-minded]

what's the Boeing 73G??? is that the new plane being developed by Boeing? it's done already??? good news for civil aviation in the Philippines though... this will luckily lead to a greater influx of tourists, especially from Indonesia....

[David-80]

Boeing 73G is 737-700/800 the one with winglet on it.

GreyX, yeah i also use SQ before, sometimes i use Qantas and australian airlines to indonesia.

Yup, it will increase Indonesian tourist and also Filipino tourist coming to indonesia. Again its good news.

[ryanr]

When did Garuda buy 737-700/800s? How many did they buy?

[David-80]

Grey, Garuda Ordered 18 73G back in 1999 along with Order for 6 B777-200ER, B777 expected to arrive in January 2006, while 73G on october 2004.

heres the info

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...tF=View+Report

cheers

[ryanr]

Thats great!! Garuda really needs to replace its old MDs. And its old 737s. Nice to see that Garuda is expanding its fleet.

[SunKing]

RBA Goes Into Code-Share Deal With Philippine Airlines

Manila (Dow Jones) - Philippine Airlines Inc. (PAL), the country's flag carrier, Friday said it has begun code-share services with Royal Brunei Airlines for the Manila-Bandar Seri Begawan route.

Royal Brunei will be the operating carrier under the arrangement, which allows Philippine Airlines to offer seats on Royal Brunei's flights to the two southeast Asian capitals.

Royal Brunei flies five times weekly to Manila.

The arrangement will give Philippine Airlines a presence in Brunei, albeit indirectly, for the first time since June 1998 when the Manila airlines scaled back its operations.

The flights are operated using Royal Brunei's Boeing 767 wide-body aircraft.

Royal Brunei is Philippine Airlines' 9th international code-share partner. -- Courtesy of Borneo Bulletin

[ryanr]

Nice...

PAL seems to have a lot of codeshare flights... Nearly all its mid-east routes are code share and its one and only flight to Europe is codeshare, handled by KLM.

[renell]

Originally Posted by GreyX

Nice...

PAL seems to have a lot of codeshare flights... Nearly all its mid-east routes are code share and its one and only flight to Europe is codeshare, handled by KLM.

yeah, PAL has numerous code-share flights, most of them to other parts of Asia or in Europe or Africa. but it's China, Japan, US flights are flown by them

[Skyblade]

Yeah PAL has to rely on their codeshares to get the cities that their metal can't fly to until more aircraft is acquired since the entire fleet itself is utilized heavily throughout the route network of PAL.The codeshare with Air Philippines seemed to do a good job on freeing up more aircraft for regional routes but I'm guessing that we'll be seeing them fly to Europe once they get more aircraft (with the range) into the fleet.

[SunKing]

The aircraft PAL has are too few, if one goes in for unscheduled maintenance or gets stuck somewhere, most of the time PAL just cancels the flight. But hey, if it's an overnight layover they billet the passengers at the Century Park!

[Skyblade]

Indeed, spares are pretty much nonexistant in the fleet...man if PAL can get some more planes, hopefully a few more 747-400s or A340s...

[amras]

I agree. I'm quite surprised when I learned that PAL only has 30 planes in its fleet.

[ryanr]

I agree. PAL is really lacking airplanes. They dont have back-ups so their flights get delayed or cancelled easily. I'm hoping they buy more 747s, A340s, A330s and maybe 777s.

Our flight from Cebu was a 747 and as soon as we touched down at NAIA 2, they had to prepare it quickly for a LA bound flight. More planes will lighten up their schedules and relieve some stress.

[SunKing]

I doubt if they need the 777s right now. Their longest routes, the ones serving North American cities, can be serviced by the 747s and the A340s. If they restart the European routes, the 777ERs or even the newer LRs might be quite useful especially since the LRs exclusively use GE engines. Personally though, I like the 777s over the A340s.

[Skyblade]

Indeed with another aircraft in its class (A340) already in the fleet, might as well save the money and training by buying a similar, if not, exact type. But the 777s would look nice with PAL's c/s...

[ryanr]

PAL used to fly to europe with 747s. So they might either aquire more 747s or A340s when they return to europe. Personally, i think 777 planes are the best, so i wish they get them... And if they are to get more planes, i want them brand new

[SunKing]

Yeah, they used the Boeing 747-200s extensively on the European routes along with the occasional DC-10. In the mid-90s, the 747s and the DC-10s were gradually phased out of the European routes with the arrival of the new A340s. On another note, I think they should start changing the Eurowhite scheme on the fuselage of the planes, I think it's too boring and dull. I love the tail liveries though.

[David-80]

Just quick question to aviation guys, why the registration number on PAL A330/340 are still F-number which means france registration, any plan to change the registration to RP-*** in the future or soon?

cheers

[renell]

Originally Posted by GreyX

PAL used to fly to europe with 747s. So they might either aquire more 747s or A340s when they return to europe. Personally, i think 777 planes are the best, so i wish they get them... And if they are to get more planes, i want them brand new

if you want a long-range plane, get the 747, especially if PAL wants to fit the most amount of passengers in a flight.

[ryanr]

but the 747 isnt as efficient for the number of passengers they can carry. A340 and 777 are much more efficient and can still carry quite a lot of passengers. PAL is in cost-saving mode so they might send A340s for the Europe routes.