SEATTLE - Sonics Arena (18,500)

BoulderGrad · November 17th, 2012, 08:24 PM

Hedge fund manager Chris Hansen has a deal in place with the Seattle City Council to build a multipurpose arena on land he now owns in the SODO neighborhood of Seattle (just south of the Mariner's SafeCo Field):
http://seattletimes.com/html/localne..._arena17m.html

The City of Seattle will contribute $200mil towards the $490mil project which will be paid back with rent paid by arena tenants and taxes collected on admissions.

The start of construction is contingent on Chris Hansen acquiring and moving an NBA franchise to Seattle, and after completion of an environmental review. The review will take at least a year and construction will take about 2 years for an opening date some time in 2015. The arena will be configured to host NHL hockey as well.

The City of Seattle's environmental review process includes at least 2 rounds of design review (Though a project this size will likely see at least 4). The first Early Design guidance was released yesterday, but includes only basic configuration descriptions and site context anaylsis:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...rena-released/
http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID4178.pdf

***RMB2007*** · November 18th, 2012, 09:03 AM

Wasn't there a proposal for an arena in Vegas that had a similar internal bowl as the one presented above?

Edit: Found it (Silver State Arena):

Darloeye · November 18th, 2012, 11:48 PM

Looks good.

***RMB2007*** · December 1st, 2012, 02:50 PM

Option 1

***RMB2007*** · December 1st, 2012, 02:50 PM

Option 2

***RMB2007*** · December 1st, 2012, 02:51 PM

Option 3

bewilder2 · December 1st, 2012, 04:26 PM

You sure #2 and #3 aren't convention centers and not stadiums? lol

They are certainly... unusual.

Pelt · December 1st, 2012, 04:29 PM

Option three looks like the top few decks of a cruise liner.

***soup or man*** · December 1st, 2012, 05:49 PM

None of them are remarkable.

BoulderGrad · December 1st, 2012, 07:26 PM

Option 3 is their preferred option which means unless the review board seriously objects to it, it will end up looking something like that. And even if they don't approve of it (please dear god don't approve of it), they'll probably just go back to the drawing board rather than using one of the other options.

***RMB2007*** · December 1st, 2012, 07:49 PM

Option three is certainly different, but not in a good way. In fact, all of them are pretty naff, even if they're concepts.

eMKay · December 1st, 2012, 08:44 PM

Option 1, meh. Option 2 is pretty slick, something different. Option 3 has way too much going on

JJG · December 2nd, 2012, 01:30 AM

Even though it looks more like a Convention Center, I like #2.

#1 isn't ugly or even that boring, but it's just doesn't say "21st Century arena".

As for #3.... I don't even know what the hell they were going for there.

KingmanIII · December 2nd, 2012, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMB2007

Option 1

looks like somebody really likes Sprint Center

(I don't blame them)

Timothy83 · December 2nd, 2012, 05:58 AM

Speaking of sprint center, why doesn't the nba expand to 32 teams, give back Seattle it's franchise and give Kansas city a franchise of it's own to play out of sprint center?

Think about it, Seattle is one of the largest cities not to be near any major basketball team or even have a basketball team in the arena, and the Kansas city metro area is over 2 million and is not near any major metro areas, it's not like Pittsburg, Baltimore, San Diego, Tampa or Cinncinati, which are probably already taken up by other metro areas and their teams (I know if Pittsburg had it's own team, that people from the city would support the team, still, Kansas city is a fairly untapped area).

bewilder2 · December 2nd, 2012, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy83

Speaking of sprint center, why doesn't the nba expand to 32 teams, give back Seattle it's franchise and give Kansas city a franchise of it's own to play out of sprint center?

Think about it, Seattle is one of the largest cities not to be near any major basketball team or even have a basketball team in the arena, and the Kansas city metro area is over 2 million and is not near any major metro areas, it's not like Pittsburg, Baltimore, San Diego, Tampa or Cinncinati, which are probably already taken up by other metro areas and their teams (I know if Pittsburg had it's own team, that people from the city would support the team, still, Kansas city is a fairly untapped area).

I don't think any league is really interested in expansion right now (except MLS). They're finding it hard to sustain fringe markets...

Seattle will probably end up stealing an NBA franchise away from somewhere, maybe an NHL one too...

mrakbaseball · December 2nd, 2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy83

Speaking of sprint center, why doesn't the nba expand to 32 teams, give back Seattle it's franchise and give Kansas city a franchise of it's own to play out of sprint center?

Think about it, Seattle is one of the largest cities not to be near any major basketball team or even have a basketball team in the arena, and the Kansas city metro area is over 2 million and is not near any major metro areas, it's not like Pittsburg, Baltimore, San Diego, Tampa or Cinncinati, which are probably already taken up by other metro areas and their teams (I know if Pittsburg had it's own team, that people from the city would support the team, still, Kansas city is a fairly untapped area).

The last thing the NBA needs to do is expand. Of the 3 sports, the NBA should really look into downsizing, contracting and leaving some markets for good.

JJG · December 2nd, 2012, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

The last thing the NBA needs to do is expand. Of the 3 sports, the NBA should really look into downsizing, contracting and leaving some markets for good.

Who would you want to leave?

***RMB2007*** · December 2nd, 2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingmanIII

looks like somebody really likes Sprint Center

(I don't blame them)

Yeah, same architects involved:

http://360architects.com/portfolio/sprint

***soup or man*** · December 2nd, 2012, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJG

Who would you want to leave?

I think that if the NBA can't find a home for the Kings (be it Seattle, Anaheim, Vegas or wherever), then they should be contracted.

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November 17th, 2012, 08:24 PM	#1
BoulderGrad Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,357 Likes (Received): 39	SEATTLE - Sonics Arena (18,500) Hedge fund manager Chris Hansen has a deal in place with the Seattle City Council to build a multipurpose arena on land he now owns in the SODO neighborhood of Seattle (just south of the Mariner's SafeCo Field): http://seattletimes.com/html/localne..._arena17m.html The City of Seattle will contribute $200mil towards the $490mil project which will be paid back with rent paid by arena tenants and taxes collected on admissions. The start of construction is contingent on Chris Hansen acquiring and moving an NBA franchise to Seattle, and after completion of an environmental review. The review will take at least a year and construction will take about 2 years for an opening date some time in 2015. The arena will be configured to host NHL hockey as well. The City of Seattle's environmental review process includes at least 2 rounds of design review (Though a project this size will likely see at least 4). The first Early Design guidance was released yesterday, but includes only basic configuration descriptions and site context anaylsis: http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/...rena-released/ http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID4178.pdf __________________ My shrink once said to me: "Maybe life isn't for everyone..."

November 18th, 2012, 09:03 AM	#2
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,277 Likes (Received): 230	Wasn't there a proposal for an arena in Vegas that had a similar internal bowl as the one presented above? Edit: Found it (Silver State Arena):

November 18th, 2012, 11:48 PM	#3
Darloeye Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: County Durham, England Posts: 1,666 Likes (Received): 20	Looks good.

December 1st, 2012, 02:50 PM	#4
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,277 Likes (Received): 230	Option 1

December 1st, 2012, 02:51 PM	#6
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,277 Likes (Received): 230	Option 3

December 1st, 2012, 04:26 PM	#7
bewilder2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 165 Likes (Received): 1	You sure #2 and #3 aren't convention centers and not stadiums? lol They are certainly... unusual.

December 1st, 2012, 04:29 PM	#8
Pelt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100 Likes (Received): 6	Option three looks like the top few decks of a cruise liner.

December 1st, 2012, 07:49 PM	#11
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,277 Likes (Received): 230	Option three is certainly different, but not in a good way. In fact, all of them are pretty naff, even if they're concepts.

December 2nd, 2012, 01:30 AM	#13
JJG Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,822 Likes (Received): 26	Even though it looks more like a Convention Center, I like #2. #1 isn't ugly or even that boring, but it's just doesn't say "21st Century arena". As for #3.... I don't even know what the hell they were going for there.

December 2nd, 2012, 05:58 AM	#15
Timothy83 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 34 Likes (Received): 0	Speaking of sprint center, why doesn't the nba expand to 32 teams, give back Seattle it's franchise and give Kansas city a franchise of it's own to play out of sprint center? Think about it, Seattle is one of the largest cities not to be near any major basketball team or even have a basketball team in the arena, and the Kansas city metro area is over 2 million and is not near any major metro areas, it's not like Pittsburg, Baltimore, San Diego, Tampa or Cinncinati, which are probably already taken up by other metro areas and their teams (I know if Pittsburg had it's own team, that people from the city would support the team, still, Kansas city is a fairly untapped area).