South about to secede again? - Page 2

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by papa_spaz

For Mississippi, I guess those people will just have to get jobs than depend on govt handouts. Whooops, is that anti Liberal policy.

Texas is the only state in the country that looks like it could be successful on their own. California is an economic disaster the way the rest of the United States is headed under Obama. Currently, Texas would be the 10th wealthiest nation in the world if they left the union. Why should Texas stay aboard a sinking ship?

Texas would be just like South Carolina in 1860. If they leave many others will follow. I could see the entire Southeast along with many other states such as: Missouri, West Virginia, Arizona, Kansas, Nebraska, Indiana, North and South Dakota also leaving. This would not be a third world country but a powerful one with Texas anchoring it down.

If Texas does secede, it's first order of business should be to build another fence ... this one to keep Californians out.

Evan · November 19th, 2012, 03:28 PM

I actually heard a lady say this while talking on the phone in the grocery store the other day: "This country is fucked! Not only did we elect a ****** once, we elected it twice! We would be better off if the south just broke off from the US!"

Yeah, that attempt worked out well the first time, sister. Calling Obama a "******" then referring to him as "it" without any regard of the people around her. I had to actually physically restrain myself from slapping that woman into another area code.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan

I actually heard a lady say this while talking on the phone in the grocery store the other day: "This country is fucked! Not only did we elect a ****** once, we elected it twice! We would be better off if the south just broke off from the US!"

Yeah, that attempt worked out well the first time, sister. Calling Obama a "******" then referring to him as "it" without any regard of the people around her. I had to actually physically restrain myself from slapping that woman into another area code.

I'm glad, for the woman's sake, that you refrained from that typically leftist impulse. There are always going to be people like that woman, just as there are always going to be the kind of people who tweeted, for all to see, things like, "We're going to f*** some sh** up if Romney wins."

Evan · November 19th, 2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale

I'm glad, for the woman's sake, that you refrained from that typically leftist impulse. There are always going to be people like that woman, just as there are always going to be the kind of people who tweeted, for all to see, things like, "We're going to f*** some sh** up if Romney wins."

heh. I'm not really a violent person, but you're on the right path. I can't tell you how many of my fellow liberal friends swore to GOD they were going to move to Canada if Romney won. Yeah, OK. Send me a postcard! I'm going to stick around and see this shit through, even if it kills me.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan

heh. I'm not really a violent person, but you're on the right path. I can't tell you how many of my fellow liberal friends swore to GOD they were going to move to Canada if Romney won. Yeah, OK. Send me a postcard! I'm going to stick around and see this shit through, even if it kills me.

I staged a sort of personal secession 12 years ago. I don't vote. You can opt out, to a degree, without leaving. After all, you could conceivably hop from country to country, always leaving when things 'don't work out."

Evan · November 19th, 2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale

I staged a sort of personal secession 12 years ago. I don't vote. You can opt out, to a degree, without leaving. After all, you could conceivably hop from country to country, always leaving when things 'don't work out."

Yep, yep. We have just as much of a right NOT to vote as we do to vote. I sat out both GWB elections because I couldn't in good conscience vote for anyone running. That often times confuses foreigners, and fellow citizens alike. "HOW CAN YOU NOT VOTE?!!!!" Well, just 'cause. Needless to say, living in the south, there were no limits to the number of people telling me how I should vote.

spencer114 · November 19th, 2012, 06:38 PM

Texas is a crappy place with more residents receiving Medicaid benefits than any other state. Hardly a model for anything (other than good food and some good music). Sure it can exist on it's own, so can Somalia.

diablo234 · November 19th, 2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spencer114

Texas is a crappy place with more residents receiving Medicaid benefits than any other state. Hardly a model for anything (other than good food and some good music). Sure it can exist on it's own, so can Somalia.

LSyd · November 19th, 2012, 08:36 PM

people, i'm worried we're 2 inches from a lock on this thread. and no, that's not a leftist reaction Dale. it's a centrist reaction.

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diablo234 · November 19th, 2012, 08:39 PM

Eh, It was bound to happen anyways.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LSyd

people, i'm worried we're 2 inches from a lock on this thread. and no, that's not a leftist reaction Dale. it's a centrist reaction.

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Good to know that violence is moving to the center, therefore palatable to increasing numbers of Americans. In any case, your hand-wringing about a thread lock, on the heels of your inflammatory post, are duly-noted.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by diablo234

Best me to it, notice that it's coming from a Virginian.

Of interest, California now has one-third the welfare recipients in the nation even though it comprises only one-eight the population. Small wonder Californians are fleeing to Texas at a dizzying rate. For one thing, there are jobs in Texas.

diablo234 · November 19th, 2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale

Best me to it, notice that it's coming from a Virginian.

Of interest, California now has one-third the welfare recipients in the nation even though it comprises only one-eight the population. Small wonder Californians are fleeing to Texas at a dizzying rate. For one thing, there are jobs in Texas.

I would have typed a long lengthy response about why spencer114's opinion is flat out wrong (although it is true that Texas has one of the highest percentage of people without health insurance) but I figuered it would be a waste of my time doing so.

Anyways comparing a state that has the most Fortune 500 companies ranging from KBR, Schlumberger, Texas Instruments, American Airlines and Whole Foods to Dell and ExxonMobil and saying that the state would be similar to a forth world civil war torn country such as Somalia is a joke to say the least.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by diablo234

I would have typed a long lengthy response about why spencer114's opinion is flat out wrong (although it is true that Texas has one of the highest percentage of people without health insurance) but I figuered it would be a waste of my time doing so.

Anyways comparing a state that has the most Fortune 500 companies ranging from KBR, Schlumberger, Texas Instruments, American Airlines and Whole Foods to Dell and ExxonMobil and saying that the state would be similar to a forth world civil war torn country such as Somalia is a joke to say the least.

... and don't apologize for the uninsured figure. Knowing Texas, it probably just has a higher-than-national-average number of people who are too independent and feisty to get sick.

spencer114 · November 19th, 2012, 08:55 PM

VA does receive a lot of Federal dollars, but it isn't to take care of our people. It is the build weapons systems and manage data for the government. Texas receives money from the Feds to feed its people. Big difference. Adjusted for population, VA beats the hell out of TX for the number of Fortune 500 companies.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 08:56 PM

Now we're hearing that, in California, your dog might cost you $100,000 a day:

http://www.strike-the-root.com/that-...you-100000-day

If I'm Texas, I'll accept 400,000 more fleeing Californians, then I shut the door, secede, and build a wall along the Western border. Enough is enough!

spencer114 · November 19th, 2012, 08:57 PM

TX is pretty third world (well developing world) with regards to health outcomes as well.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spencer114

TX is pretty third world (well developing world) with regards to health outcomes as well.

I suppose it's possible that Exxon recently moved its Virginia workers, to Texas, so they could get sick more easily.

diablo234 · November 19th, 2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spencer114

VA does receive a lot of Federal dollars, but it isn't to take care of our people. It is the build weapons systems and manage data for the government. Texas receives money from the Feds to feed its people. Big difference. Adjusted for population, VA beats the hell out of TX for the number of Fortune 500 companies.

Texas does not recieve money from the Federal Government, it is actually one of the few states that contribute funds (unlike North Carolina, Utah, Mississippi, Wyoming, etc).

http://www.economist.com/blogs/daily...s-fiscal-union

It's fine that you don't like the state but don't make up facts to state your case, it just makes you look foolish.

Dale · November 19th, 2012, 09:12 PM

Even people who just pull stuff out their asses, to make fun of Texas, are giving up and moving to Texas.

Last I checked, Texas only got back 80 cents out of every dollar it remits to the feds. This means that Texas could secede and immediately extend a 20% tax break to its citizens. OR, it could use the savings to extend low-interest loans to distressed Virginians.

November 19th, 2012, 03:28 PM	#22
Evan Amurika! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,119 Likes (Received): 51	I actually heard a lady say this while talking on the phone in the grocery store the other day: "This country is fucked! Not only did we elect a **** once, we elected it twice! We would be better off if the south just broke off from the US!" Yeah, that attempt worked out well the first time, sister. Calling Obama a "****" then referring to him as "it" without any regard of the people around her. I had to actually physically restrain myself from slapping that woman into another area code. __________________

November 19th, 2012, 08:36 PM	#29
LSyd Megalomaniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 30	people, i'm worried we're 2 inches from a lock on this thread. and no, that's not a leftist reaction Dale. it's a centrist reaction. - __________________ "To be fair to LSyd, he does have an eye for graffiti, dereliction and stray souls." - gleegieboy

November 19th, 2012, 08:39 PM	#30
diablo234 Oh No He Didn't Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Houston-Tejas-Estados Unidos Posts: 4,220	Eh, It was bound to happen anyways. __________________ T E X A S --PHOTO COLLECTION-- Disclaimer: I am not sexist, racist, or prejudiced in any way or form. I hate everyone equally.

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November 19th, 2012, 06:38 PM	#27
spencer114 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Richmond Posts: 1,227 Likes (Received): 36	Texas is a crappy place with more residents receiving Medicaid benefits than any other state. Hardly a model for anything (other than good food and some good music). Sure it can exist on it's own, so can Somalia.

November 19th, 2012, 08:55 PM	#35
spencer114 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Richmond Posts: 1,227 Likes (Received): 36	VA does receive a lot of Federal dollars, but it isn't to take care of our people. It is the build weapons systems and manage data for the government. Texas receives money from the Feds to feed its people. Big difference. Adjusted for population, VA beats the hell out of TX for the number of Fortune 500 companies.

November 19th, 2012, 08:56 PM	#36
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Now we're hearing that, in California, your dog might cost you $100,000 a day: http://www.strike-the-root.com/that-...you-100000-day If I'm Texas, I'll accept 400,000 more fleeing Californians, then I shut the door, secede, and build a wall along the Western border. Enough is enough!

November 19th, 2012, 08:57 PM	#37
spencer114 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Richmond Posts: 1,227 Likes (Received): 36	TX is pretty third world (well developing world) with regards to health outcomes as well.

November 19th, 2012, 09:12 PM	#40
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Even people who just pull stuff out their asses, to make fun of Texas, are giving up and moving to Texas. Last I checked, Texas only got back 80 cents out of every dollar it remits to the feds. This means that Texas could secede and immediately extend a 20% tax break to its citizens. OR, it could use the savings to extend low-interest loans to distressed Virginians.