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Old May 30th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #2081
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Oh les jalouses! We're used to hearing this speech mainly from the Brits, how funny... The more you hate/bash us, the more we love it so keep up with the good work guys!

@ SO143: please get a life, you're SO pathetic with your childish comments...
I love Paris, amazing city, ive been many times!

La Defense is rubbish though, apart from the Arch it is a waste of time and to be avoided!

The only reason to go to a business district if you are not there on business is to see some quality skyscrapers, but i'm afraid there aren't any in La Defense!

It is massively overrated by some, what exactly is good about it?

The massing of many small-mid rise buildings might make a silhouette when seen against the backdrop of the rest of Paris, but up close and personal it is grey and miserable with some pretty crappy office blocks. There are obvious attempts to reclad many of these but it is like slapping lipstick on a pig!

This is not anti French or trolling, rather anti poor architecture!

Try being a little less defensive, this is a skyscraper forum, but for the life of me i cant seen any good ones in La Defense, which is being touted as the best in Europe??

I must be blind or boy is my finger not on the pulse of Saint Martins!
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Old May 30th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #2082
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Paris should not even have ang financial district since their newly elected and very unpopular socialist president is always against business, finance, financial centre and globalization etc.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 01:57 AM   #2083
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Old May 30th, 2013, 09:36 AM   #2084
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I love Paris, amazing city, ive been many times!

La Defense is rubbish though, apart from the Arch it is a waste of time and to be avoided!

The only reason to go to a business district if you are not there on business is to see some quality skyscrapers, but i'm afraid there aren't any in La Defense!

It is massively overrated by some, what exactly is good about it?

The massing of many small-mid rise buildings might make a silhouette when seen against the backdrop of the rest of Paris, but up close and personal it is grey and miserable with some pretty crappy office blocks. There are obvious attempts to reclad many of these but it is like slapping lipstick on a pig!

This is not anti French or trolling, rather anti poor architecture!

Try being a little less defensive, this is a skyscraper forum, but for the life of me i cant seen any good ones in La Defense, which is being touted as the best in Europe??

I must be blind or boy is my finger not on the pulse of Saint Martins!
I kind of agree... London is one of the leading skykines in Europe! So is cities like Moscow and Warsaw.

One can throw as many renderings of proposed towers as one wants! But CURRENTLY Paris does not compete on the same scale as London, Moscow and Frankfurt - it just doesn't. Its fact.

I do not understand why the pro-Paris supporters are kicking up a fuss... maybe because London is getting more mentions than Paris on here - and I do not think
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Old May 30th, 2013, 09:37 AM   #2085
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I love Paris, amazing city, ive been many times!

La Defense is rubbish though, apart from the Arch it is a waste of time and to be avoided!

The only reason to go to a business district if you are not there on business is to see some quality skyscrapers, but i'm afraid there aren't any in La Defense!

It is massively overrated by some, what exactly is good about it?

The massing of many small-mid rise buildings might make a silhouette when seen against the backdrop of the rest of Paris, but up close and personal it is grey and miserable with some pretty crappy office blocks. There are obvious attempts to reclad many of these but it is like slapping lipstick on a pig!

This is not anti French or trolling, rather anti poor architecture!

Try being a little less defensive, this is a skyscraper forum, but for the life of me i cant seen any good ones in La Defense, which is being touted as the best in Europe??

I must be blind or boy is my finger not on the pulse of Saint Martins!
I kind of agree... London is one of the leading skykines in Europe! So is cities like Moscow and Warsaw.

One can throw as many renderings of proposed towers as one wants! But CURRENTLY Paris does not compete on the same scale as London, Moscow and Frankfurt - it just doesn't. Its fact.

I do not understand why the pro-Paris supporters are kicking up a fuss... maybe because London is getting more mentions than Paris on here - and I do not think they like it the fact that London is getting more attention. :O
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Old May 30th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #2086
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Old May 30th, 2013, 10:07 AM   #2087
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And now?

The O2 - the world’s most popular music and entertainment venue for 6 consecutive years.

Can't argue with fact old sport!
O2 is popular, but everyone knows that it's a very misleading claim. O2 only gets the title by excluding attendance to sporting events at arenas around the world. O2 is the busiest music venue. There are a shit load of arenas in north America that attract more people each year.

Any arena hosting NHL and NBA is already at 1.5 million visitors before including all the other events they host.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #2088
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O2 is popular, but everyone knows that it's a very misleading claim. O2 only gets the title by excluding attendance to sporting events at arenas around the world. O2 is the busiest music venue. There are a shit load of arenas in north America that attract more people each year.

Any arena hosting NHL and NBA is already at 1.5 million visitors before including all the other events they host.
To be fair he did say music and entertainment venue, O2 doesnt have an anchor sports team as a tenant as you know!

Out of interest, the O2 is touted as a potential site for an NBA and NHL team and has already hosted games from both!
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Old May 30th, 2013, 10:33 AM   #2089
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Old May 30th, 2013, 11:31 AM   #2090
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Old May 30th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #2091
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Frankfurt looks great.

I only wish the buildings were closer together. Most of the best shots of the skyline are at clever angles to make it all seem dense.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #2092
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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #2093
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As I said before, I don't see any serious competition for Frankfurt and Paris skylines at the moment, Moscow has some impressive towers but its a small cluster, London.. well I see nothing spectacular there, its neither impressive nor big enough.
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Old May 30th, 2013, 01:24 PM   #2094
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He's not that young I'm afraid...he's a no-life & just misses a brain.

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I do not understand why the pro-Paris supporters are kicking up a fuss... maybe because London is getting more mentions than Paris on here - and I do not think they like it the fact that London is getting more attention. :O
You'd rather take a look at the following poll...

HERE

What can I add apart from: "it says it all..." Frankfurt & Paris definitely are in another league. It may be difficult to accept (especially for a brit), but it's just the way it is. The gap will be even deeper with the amazing skyscraperc U/C (Majunga/D2), the stunning LOUIS VUITTON Foundation & the forthcoming AIR2/ALTO/PHARE/HERMITAGE PLAZA...I'm so proud of my beloved Défense...<3
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Old May 30th, 2013, 01:54 PM   #2095
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He's not that young I'm afraid...he's a no-life & just misses a brain.

You'd rather take a look at the following poll...

HERE

What can I add apart from: "it says it all..." Frankfurt & Paris definitely are in another league. It may be difficult to accept (especially for a brit), but it's just the way it is. The gap will be even deeper with the amazing skyscraperc U/C (Majunga/D2), the stunning LOUIS VUITTON Foundation & the forthcoming AIR2/ALTO/PHARE/HERMITAGE PLAZA...I'm so proud of my beloved Défense...<3
No.... just no. Frankfurt and Paris are not in the same league. Frankfurt, London and Moscow are.

Frankfurt - The Euro-zones financial centre. Fantastic skyline!
Moscow - Growing at an amazing speed. Loads of super talls and modern designs.
London - Has TWO major skylines. Modern, growing at a very quick speed. Iconic.
Paris - impressive and great cluster. But no super talls or definitive tower (accept the arche).

And i really doubt all of those towers will built... so its an invalid argument. Dont get me wrong, those designs are beautiful, but the buildings do not exist.
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And i really doubt all of those towers will built... so its an invalid argument. Dont get me wrong, those designs are beautiful, but the buildings do not exist.
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are serious projects ! you're just afraid to see them built and destroys all the competition in europe
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I want to avoid the bitching but I have given you a private heads up relating to the Hermitage Towers which I thought was rather nice of me.

Don't get hopes just yet on those. My fingers are still crossed though.
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I don't care about this paris vs london dick contest, but please, stop this hypocrisy, no one trust you...
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Well IF these are built then they will certainly look beautiful! No doubt.

But Paris has no serious business intrest, whereas London and Moscow have demand for business. If a building cannot let its floors - it will not be built.

I am not hating on Paris, i love Paris - i simply think that at the moment, the Parisian skyline just does not contend with the likes of London, Frankfurt and Moscow.
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