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Old June 1st, 2013, 02:01 PM   #2181
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The best Skylines in Europe:

Group A: Boom Towns with over 10 buildings UC or proposed.
1.Moscow
2.Istanbul
3. London

Group B: Constantly growing cities with large skylines.
1. Paris/La Defence
2. Frankfurt a.M.
3. Warsaw

Group C: Constantly growing cities with small skylines.
1. Rotterdam
2. Benidorm
3. Milan

Group D: barely growing cities with small or scattered skylines.
1. Madrid
2. Vienna
3. Barcelona
4. Manchester
5. Lyon
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Old June 1st, 2013, 03:13 PM   #2182
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Did u know that the guys hospital in london is the tallest hospital in the world. Its now being recladded by the way. There was another hideous tower situated next to it but it was knocked down. By the owner of the mighty shard which is the first supertall and the highest building in eu, plus its worth more than $4billion and its now ranked the most expensive building as well. Mate i wasnt surprised wben it defeated all the other finest towers of frankfurt, paris and many other rival cities.
1wtc is more expensive and the shard cost includes the other development around it. Plus the buildings really overrated simply because its Europe's first supertall
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Old June 1st, 2013, 04:36 PM   #2183
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That render of future istanbul skyline looks massive mate. Gotta respect the booming non eurozone cities.

Oh btw london is not only building world class skyscrapers but quality lowrise buildings too.

Proposed/Approved/UC projects can be found here folks

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=315079
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Old June 1st, 2013, 04:53 PM   #2184
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Nothing special, all major European cities have similar projects or are U/C.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 04:56 PM   #2185
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Old June 1st, 2013, 04:59 PM   #2186
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1wtc is more expensive and the shard cost includes the other development around it. Plus the buildings really overrated simply because its Europe's first supertall
The Shard is the EU's first supertall, but not Europe's first supertall (that was the Moscow Tower of the City of Capitals complex with a height of 301.8 m, completed in 2010).
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Old June 1st, 2013, 05:52 PM   #2187
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Nothing special, all major European cities have similar projects or are U/C.
I seriously doubt it, especially U/C part.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:06 PM   #2188
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So don't be ignorant and check what is being built around Europe, world doesn't revolve around London.

Warsaw

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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:06 PM   #2189
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I know this is a bit off topic but in all honesty I think Africa's best skyline(Johannesburg) is better than anything in Europe.Moscow(not EU) and Frankfurt are both just a single cluster of tall buildings with nothing major around it, while London and Paris are still growing towards being great skylines. London is too spread out for now. Johannesburg is reminiscent of a American skyline, dense over a large area rather than just a single cluster.

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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:17 PM   #2190
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I know this is a bit off topic but in all honesty I think Africa's best skyline(Johannesburg) is better than anything in Europe.Moscow(not EU) and Frankfurt are both just a single cluster of tall buildings with nothing major around it, while London and Paris are still growing towards being great skylines. London is too spread out for now. Johannesburg is reminiscent of a American skyline, dense over a large area rather than just a single cluster.

hardly skyscraper
no size

and little prospect for new projects. that you compare johannesburg with aspiring and futuristic european skylines is a shame. shame on you.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:20 PM   #2191
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lulz. on par with berlin propably (highest EU inner city skyline!!)
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:25 PM   #2192
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So don't be ignorant and check what is being built around Europe, world doesn't revolve around London.

Warsaw

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...warsaw&page=49
I do check Warsaw periodically and Warsaw has some good projects but I still straggle to see something on the same scale as Nine Elms project for example.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:35 PM   #2193
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Nothing special, all major European cities have similar projects or are U/C.
All major european cities have similar projects? Then you clearly dont know about london or you're just trying to spread lies. Tell me which other european cities have expensive projects like the ones being developed in london mate

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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:40 PM   #2194
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hardly skyscraper
no size

and little prospect for new projects. that you compare johannesburg with aspiring and futuristic european skylines is a shame. shame on you.
To roof London only has two buildings higher than Johannesburgs tallest, same as Frankfurt. Yes, the city isnt in a great growing phase(it did that in the 60s and 70s, when the tallest building in the EU was half the size of Johannesburgs tallest, and when Europe was full of 4 story buildings(which it still is).

I am talking about a skyline here, not only height. Right NOW it looks better than Europe's. Maybe it just because I like American and Asian style skylines which are fully built, rather than just one cluster (or in Londons case spread out). Also does more Modern = a better skyline, because then London must have a better skyline then Hong kong, chicago and New york? Which it does not.

Johannesburg is what a real skyline looks like (say what you want about height), not a small cluster of tall buildings. London will be much better when it starts to connect its clusters.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:45 PM   #2195
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lulz. on par with berlin propably (highest EU inner city skyline!!)
You are f*cking delusional if you think that, there are very few buildings in Europe taller than the carlton center in Johannesburg(and most of those are in Moscow), and even less that sit in a real skyline like Johannesburg.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:48 PM   #2196
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So don't be ignorant and check what is being built around Europe, world doesn't revolve around London.

Warsaw

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Haha sorry to burst your bubble buddy but london crossrail project alone cost $25 billion and london has tons of other big projects which cost $15bn, $9 bn, $7.5 bn and counless amount of over $1bn projects eg new chelsea stadium ($1.5bn), the pinnacle 288m but height will be increased and ranked 2nd tallest building in eu ($1.5bn), new american embassy ($1bn) etc wembley stadium ($1.5bn) used to be known as the most expensive stadium in the world but it was beaten by new yankee stadium in new york a few years ago. And then you have new airport.project which cost is estimated to be $70 billion mate.. London has no european competitors in this aspect mate, its on another level.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 07:55 PM   #2197
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You are f*cking delusional if you think that, there are very few buildings in Europe taller than the carlton center in Johannesburg(and most of those are in Moscow), and even less that sit in a real skyline like Johannesburg.
please go trolling in another thread and spare us f...g joburg dude!
this is an european skyline thread.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:08 PM   #2198
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The Architects' Journal reports "The Pinnacle" may get a height increase. KPF is still the official architect.

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Mate the pinnacle project is currently on hold i mean its dead cos the developers have not got sufficient amount of tenents due to unstoppable financial crisis in the eurozone but this a billion £ project will go ahead soon and its height is estimated to be 1000 feet, therefore it will become the second tallest building in eu after the shard.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:20 PM   #2199
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You are f*cking delusional if you think that, there are very few buildings in Europe taller than the carlton center in Johannesburg(and most of those are in Moscow), and even less that sit in a real skyline like Johannesburg.
The Carlton Centre is 223 Meter high, correctly?

In Europe, according to Wikipedia, there are a total of 23 completed buildings higher than Carlton Centre. which 5 are higher than 300 meters. Under Construction and approved are still twice as many times.

With Africa, let's take it easy on.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 08:38 PM   #2200
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Then you clearly dont know about london
Neither do you.

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