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Old December 30th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #241
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #242
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Napoli, the most underrated skyline in Europe
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #243
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By Pattali:

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Where the cranes are ---> the Canopée U/C (the new 'Halles')

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Paris does a fantastic job (the best in Europe), to keep it's old cityscape historic and beautiful and to build one of the densest skyscraper clusters in Europe at the rim of the city. So the city has got something for every kind of architecture fan (historic and modern) and neither one is disturbed, because old and new are strictly seperated. But then you get those awesome views, where you see the old and new Paris combined. Just lovely!
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Old December 30th, 2012, 08:56 PM   #244
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Old December 30th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #245
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I agree.
Me too, absolutely underrated
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Old December 30th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #246
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Here are the most common Rotterdam, Warsaw and Milan. We need more pictures of Napoli.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:10 PM   #247
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i'm sorry guys but let's be serious one second!

The first tiers must include exclusively sperheavyweight champions like:

Paris
London
frankfurt and a new comer Moscow


Then please stop to put warsaw in that league! It has nothing to do to compete with paris & london!

Do you realize that the GDP produced by La defense or canary wharf and the city surpasses the GDP of the whole Poland?

Please stop to include this skyline in the top league.
warsaw beats perhaps vienna and rotterdam but stop to compare it with paris, london , frankfurt
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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:23 PM   #248
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i'm sorry guys but let's be serious one second!

The first tiers must include exclusively sperheavyweight champions like:

Paris
London
frankfurt and a new comer Moscow


Then please stop to put warsaw in that league! It has nothing to do to compete with paris & london!

Do you realize that the GDP produced by La defense or canary wharf and the city surpasses the GDP of the whole Poland?

Please stop to include this skyline in the top league.
warsaw beats perhaps vienna and rotterdam but stop to compare it with paris, london , frankfurt
Moscow had the skyline long before the emergence of skyscrapers in the rest of Europe; not quite correctly called a rookie, she only had a gap in the crisis years (90's)
I have little interest in assessing GDP Skyline. Warsaw is very massive and beautiful skyline, but so far for me, it does not belong to the first group, although I understand people relating it to the first group
You may notice that all the cities of the first group are very different in terms of population, so it is judged by the quality of architecture, massiveness, height, and not for economic or political indicators
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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #249
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i'm sorry guys but let's be serious one second! The first tiers must include exclusively sperheavyweight champions like: Paris London frankfurt and a new comer Moscow Then please stop to put warsaw in that league! It has nothing to do to compete with paris & london! Do you realize that the GDP produced by La defense or canary wharf and the city surpasses the GDP of the whole Poland? Please stop to include this skyline in the top league. warsaw beats perhaps vienna and rotterdam but stop to compare it with paris, london , frankfurt
We are discussing about skylines here, not GDP. Everybody has it's own tastes and ideas and I have to say that I love Warsaw and it's skyline. Maybe London and Paris have better skylines, but for sure Warsaw's skyscrapers and highrises are integrated in the city in a better way.
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Old December 30th, 2012, 11:29 PM   #250
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i'm sorry guys but let's be serious one second!

The first tiers must include exclusively sperheavyweight champions like:

Paris
London
frankfurt and a new comer Moscow


Then please stop to put warsaw in that league! It has nothing to do to compete with paris & london!

Do you realize that the GDP produced by La defense or canary wharf and the city surpasses the GDP of the whole Poland?

Please stop to include this skyline in the top league.
warsaw beats perhaps vienna and rotterdam but stop to compare it with paris, london , frankfurt
Please, stop to impose your opinion, that's just your view. Of course, you can express it here, but if somebody thinks that Warsaw is in the first tier, he can put it in the first tier, cause nobody has got allowance to stop him, OK?
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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:55 AM   #251
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i'm sorry guys but let's be serious one second!

The first tiers must include exclusively sperheavyweight champions like:

Paris
London
frankfurt and a new comer Moscow


Then please stop to put warsaw in that league! It has nothing to do to compete with paris & london!

Do you realize that the GDP produced by La defense or canary wharf and the city surpasses the GDP of the whole Poland?

Please stop to include this skyline in the top league.
warsaw beats perhaps vienna and rotterdam but stop to compare it with paris, london , frankfurt
We're talking just about skyline, not GDP...
No offense taken. Actually in Poland we are used to such opinions. I mean: you can't win with me cause I'm rich and you're poor.

To be 100% clear: unfortunately for you GDP of the whole London or the whole Paris is much lower than GDP of Poland.

Nevertheless (in my personal opinion) Warsaw doesn't belong to tier 1 of this league. My personal list (in this order):

Tier 1:
1. Fankfurt
2. Paris
3. London
4. Moscow

Tier 2:
5. Rotterdam
6. Warsaw
7. Istanbul

Tier 3:
8. The Hague
9. Milan
10. Vilnius/Vienna/Napoli

I just can't put Madrid on my list with its 4 skyscrapers built at once in 2008...sorry mates.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 01:52 AM   #252
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Frankfurt by night:

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And here the future financial heart of Europe rising, the ECB:
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Old December 31st, 2012, 04:44 AM   #253
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Frankfurt is still the number one. It has nice and tall towers, the skyline is balanced and the skyscrapers are well integrated in the city. No other skyline in Europe has the same elements all together.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 06:57 AM   #254
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Frankfurt is still the number one. It has nice and tall towers, the skyline is balanced and the skyscrapers are well integrated in the city. No other skyline in Europe has the same elements all together.
Absolutely disagree


Paris Moscow and London are in a class of their own .. Mega and Massive

Frankfurt is a pretty small place in comparison and no matter how many angles and shots you give it , eventually they're exhausted ..and it just gets boring .
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Old December 31st, 2012, 08:13 AM   #255
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Frankfurt's skyline looks pretty dense to me. At least it is in the photos.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 10:34 AM   #256
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I disagree with harrypowell
For example Moscow has a very impressive skyscraper skyline but quite small (in larger views the skyline is quite avarage). Paris has a very good density (probabily only Naples and maybe London have similar highrises density into an European cluster) but for all the other parameters Frankfurt seems superior to me. In London the skyscrapers are too much spread all around the city and it makes it less impressive than it could be.
There are 2 different attitudes to build skyscrapers in Europe: the first one is dedicating to the skyscrapers an "isolated" area (Paris, Naples, Moscow..), the second one is to have skyscrapers growing as a "spontaneous" element of the city, eventually also in the city center (Frankfurt, Warsaw, Milan). I prefer the second attitude. London seems somewhere in the middle.
I wrote all this just to explain that there are many elements to judge a skyline, and everybody has it's own parameters and tastes.
I love this variety that Europe has.

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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:41 PM   #257
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I almost 100% agree with Eduardo Ramirez. But i think Naples deserves a spot in the third tier.

FIRST TIER

1) Frankfurt
2) London
3) Moscow
4) Paris

SECOND TIER:

5) Warsaw
6) Istanbul
7) Rotterdam
8) Milan

THIRD TIER:

9) Vienna
10) Naples
11) Madrid
12) Benidorm
13) The Hague
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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:44 PM   #258
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^ Since you're from Italy..
Well, I like the Naples cluster, it's decently massive, but I think it lacks a bit in quality (of course not like Benidorm, however it's far away from it regarding the size of the skyline).

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Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the colors resemble the different regions within Europe.

Western Europe (North)
Western Europe (South)
Eastern (Slavic) Europe
Baltic States
Other
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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:55 PM   #259
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Old December 31st, 2012, 12:56 PM   #260
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^ Since you're from Italy..
Well, I like the Naples cluster, it's decently massive, but I think it lacks a bit in quality (of course not like Benidorm, however it's far away from it regarding the size of the skyline).

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the colors resemble the different regions within Europe.

Western Europe (North)
Western Europe (South)
Eastern (Slavic) Europe
Baltic States
Other
Just as information: Poland is in Central-Europe, not Eastern-Europe
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