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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:04 PM   #4001
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all these rankings don't make a sense
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:11 PM   #4002
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  1. Approved
  2. Municipality Center - 340m
  3. Halkbank IFC Tower 1 - 46fl
  4. Luxist Residance - 150m
Great to see Istanbul is getting a supertall which will be even taller than the approved buildings in Paris. There will always be successors sooner or later. IMO it is more important to have the original and iconic buildings. The Shard will soon be not the tallest building in the EU, but it can always be recognized as the first supertall building in the EU. Go Istanbul, Moscow and London (Non Eurozone Megacities are booming!)
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:31 PM   #4003
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Ehem Ehem ... some people forget that "Eiffel tower" in PARIS is the first supertall building in the world (and was built 2 centuries ago)
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:37 PM   #4004
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Ehem Ehem ... some people forget that "Eiffel tower" in PARIS is the first supertall building in the world (and was built 2 centuries ago)
Not classified as a building though is it!

Paris only has 2 buildings over 200m and neither of those are what you would call world class.

Paris isn't known for skyscrapers, there are only 2!
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:39 PM   #4005
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London

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Living In The Shadows Of Giants - London City by Simon & His Camera, on Flickr

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(London can offer multiple differently designed skylines and therefore IMO the pictures are not boring to look at as they are all different)
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:39 PM   #4006
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Not classified as a building though is it!

Paris only has 2 buildings over 200m and neither of those are what you would call world class.

Paris isn't known for skyscrapers, there are only 2!
Which are?


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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:45 PM   #4007
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I was in London in August this year. Amazed to see the huge changes and developments since my last visit in April 2011. Especially when entering London with the Eurostar at St. Pancras, it was nice to see the new towers being build along the railway.

The Shard is beautiful as well, unfortunately I didn't make to the top this time. Hopefully next year or in 2 years.

London: Europe's definite number one!
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:48 PM   #4008
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Old October 21st, 2013, 08:54 PM   #4009
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Not classified as a building though is it!

Paris only has 2 buildings over 200m and neither of those are what you would call world class.

Paris isn't known for skyscrapers, there are only 2!


Yes, it's not just a building, it's a magnificient architectural creation. (and the most known supertall in the world )

You also forget that Tour Montparnasse was buit between 1969 and 1973, so maybe it's stupid to compare it with a skyscraper built in 2010 (for example)

Tour first is a world class, I really prefer it than the disfugured skyscrapers (and also "fryscraper" ) they're laying in London (Ps: good job, you have built a very nice skyscraper to cook cheese omelette in street, I will try it next time I go to London)
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Yes, it's not just a building, it's a magnificient architectural creation. (and the most known supertall in the world )

You also forget that Tour Montparnasse was buit between 1969 and 1973, so maybe it's stupid to compare it with a skyscraper built in 2010 (for example)

Tour first is a world class, I really prefer it than the disfugured skyscrapers (and also "fryscraper" ) they're laying in London (Ps: good job, you have built a very nice skyscraper to cook cheese omelette in street, I will try it next time I go to London)
Why bring up the Eiffel Tower if it is stupid to compare Montparnasse? Do you not see contradiction?

You are welcome to Tour First.

Enjoy your cheese omelette!
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:09 PM   #4011
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Europe - Number of Skyscrapers (SSC Classification - 200m+)

1. Moscow (11)
2. London (6)
3. Frankfurt (5)
4. Madrid (4)
5. Istanbul (2)
6. Paris (2)
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:17 PM   #4012
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Why bring up the Eiffel Tower then? You have contradicted yourself!
It's so simple, and you didn't get it
What I said, that comparing style (what you call world class) of 2 skyscraper builts in 2 shifted periods (40 years) is stupid
but, there are both tall
Is it clear now?

PS: "Tour Eiffel" is very unique supertall in the world.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:20 PM   #4013
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Europe - Number of Skyscrapers (SSC Classification - 200m+)

1. Moscow (11)
2. London (6)
3. Frankfurt (5)
4. Madrid (4)
5. Istanbul (2)
6. Paris (2)

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23rd - Moscow (7)
28th - London (6)
33rd - Frankfurt (5)
44th - Madrid (4)
70th - Paris (2)
So, it was not official (like the latest one), just a stupid ranking given by you
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:21 PM   #4014
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It's so simple, and you didn't get it
What I said, that comparing style (what you call world class) of 2 skyscraper builts in 2 shifted periods (40 years) is stupid
but, there are both tall
Is it clear now?

PS: "Tour Eiffel" is very unique supertall in the world.
As much as like the Eiffel Tower, and i do, i'm afraid it isn't classed as a supertall skyscraper, sorry!
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:24 PM   #4015
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So, it was not official (like the latest one), just a stupid ranking given by you
No not me, this list is taken from the SSC list in the World Forum, strange you think it is stupid, you are on a skyscraper forum?

Europe - Number of Skyscrapers (SSC Classification - 200m+)

1. Moscow (9)
2. London (6)
3. Frankfurt (5)
4. Madrid (4)
5. Istanbul (2)
6. Paris (2)
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Roughly, I encourage Moscow, Warsaw, London, Rotterdam and Istanbul, emergent skylines in Europe. Just go ahead and try to catch Paris and Frankfurt (Which are also moving, but slowly).
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:57 PM   #4017
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Europe - List of all current and proposed skyscrapers (SSC classification - 200m+)

London

Completed & T/O (6)
1. The Shard: 310m
2. One Canada Square: 235m
3. Heron Tower: 230m
4. Leadenhall Building: 225m (T/O)
5. 8 Canada Square: 200m
6. 25 Canada Square: 200m

U/C (2)
1. The Pinnacle: 288m (On Hold)
2. Riverside South Tower 1: 237m

Approved (7)
1. Columbus Tower: 237m
2. The Pride: 233m
3. North Quay Tower 1: 221m
4. Wood Wharf W07B: 206m
5. North Quay Tower 3: 203m
6. One Nine Elms East Tower: 200m
7. Lansdowne Road Tower: 200m

Proposed (4)
1. The Three Spires: 253m
2. South Quay Plaza Tower 1: 250m
3. Diamond Tower: 212m
4. 30 Marsh Wall: 205m

Frankfurt

Completed (5)
1. Commerzbank Tower: 259m
2. Messeturm: 256m
3. Westend Tower: 208m
4. Main Tower: 200m
5. Tower 185: 200m

Proposed (4)
1. Millennium Tower: 369m
2. Frankfurter Stadthöfe: 228m
3. Tower 1: 212m
4. Bahn Tower: 200m

Madrid

Completed (4)
1. Torre Caja Madrid: 250m
2. Torre de Cristal: 250m
3. Torre PwC: 236m
4. Torre Espacio: 230m

Paris

Built: (2)
1. Tour First: 231m
2. Tour Maine Montparnasse: 210m

Approved: (4)
1. Hermitage Plaza 1: 323m (Approved)
2. Hermitage Plaza 2: 323m (Approved)
3. Tour Phare: 300m (On Hold)
4. Tour Air²: 220m (Approved)

Anyone want to add Istanbul and Moscow to this list to get the full picture?
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Old October 21st, 2013, 10:20 PM   #4018
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Europe - List of all current and proposed skyscrapers (SSC classification - 200m+)

Moscow

Completed & T/O (9)
1.Mercury City Tower: 339m
2. Eurasia Tower: 309m
3. City of Capitals (Moscow Tower): 302m
4. Naberezhnaya Tower C: 268m
5. City of Capitals (St. Petersburg Tower): 257m
6. Federation Tower (West Tower): 252m
7. Imperia Tower: 241 m
8. Triumph Palace: 218 m
9. MosFilm Tower: 213 m

Moscow State University: 240 with spire, 183 roof

U/C (4)
1. Federation Tower East: 354m (On hold)
2. OKO 1: 352m
3. Evolution tower: 255m
4. OKO 2: 245m

Approved (3)
1. Plot 17-18 MIBC Tower1: 288m (preparation)
2. Plot 17-18 MIBC Tower2: 288m (preparation)
3. Plot 15 MIBC: 283m (preparation)

Proposed (1)
1. Plot 20 MIBC: 228m
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Europe - List of all current and proposed skyscrapers (SSC classification - 200m+)

1st Moscow (World Ranking 20th)

Completed & T/O (9)
1. Mercury City Tower: 339m
2. Eurasia Tower: 309m
3. City of Capitals (Moscow Tower): 302m
4. Naberezhnaya Tower C: 268m
5. City of Capitals (St. Petersburg Tower): 257m
6. Federation Tower (West Tower): 252m
7. Imperia Tower: 241m
8. Triumph Palace: 218m
9. MosFilm Tower: 213m

Moscow State University: 240m with spire, 183m roof

U/C (4)
1. Federation Tower East: 354m (On hold)
2. OKO 1: 352m
3. Evolution tower: 255m
4. OKO 2: 245m

Approved (3)
1. Plot 17-18 MIBC Tower1: 288m
2. Plot 17-18 MIBC Tower2: 288m
3. Plot 15 MIBC: 283m

Proposed (1)
1. Plot 20 MIBC: 228m


2nd London (World Ranking 28th)

Completed & T/O (6)
1. The Shard: 310m
2. One Canada Square: 235m
3. Heron Tower: 230m
4. Leadenhall Building: 225m (T/O)
5. 8 Canada Square: 200m
6. 25 Canada Square: 200m

U/C (2)
1. The Pinnacle: 288m (On Hold)
2. Riverside South Tower 1: 237m

Approved (7)
1. Columbus Tower: 237m
2. The Pride: 233m
3. North Quay Tower 1: 221m
4. Wood Wharf W07B: 206m
5. North Quay Tower 3: 203m
6. One Nine Elms East Tower: 200m
7. Lansdowne Road Tower: 200m

Proposed (4)
1. The Three Spires: 253m
2. South Quay Plaza Tower 1: 250m
3. Diamond Tower: 212m
4. 30 Marsh Wall: 205m


3rd Frankfurt (World Ranking 33rd)

Completed (5)
1. Commerzbank Tower: 259m
2. Messeturm: 256m
3. Westend Tower: 208m
4. Main Tower: 200m
5. Tower 185: 200m

Proposed (4)
1. Millennium Tower: 369m
2. Frankfurter Stadthöfe: 228m
3. Tower 1: 212m
4. Bahn Tower: 200m


4th Madrid (World Ranking 45th)

Completed (4)
1. Torre Caja Madrid: 250m
2. Torre de Cristal: 250m
3. Torre PwC: 236m
4. Torre Espacio: 230m


5th Paris (World Ranking 71st)

Completed (2)
1. Tour First: 231m
2. Tour Maine Montparnasse: 210m

Approved (4)
1. Hermitage Plaza 1: 323m (Approved)
2. Hermitage Plaza 2: 323m (Approved)
3. Tour Phare: 300m (On Hold)
4. Tour Air²: 220m (Approved)

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^ This list gives a real insight to how the skylines of Europe will evolve over the next 10/15 years.

Would be good to put Istanbul and any other proposals on here too!
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