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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #441
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my top-20 list

European "Skyscrapers" Premier League
1. Frankfurt
2. Paris
3. London
4. Moscow
League 1
5. Rotterdam
6. Warsaw
7. Istanbul
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8. Kyiv
9. Barcelona
10. Milan
11. Hague
12. Vienna
13. Naples
14. Benidorm
15. Madrid
League 3
16. Brussels
17. Liverpool
18. Vilnius
19. Dnipropetrovsk
20. Tallinn
At the first glance, I thought you were talking about the European soccer league.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #442
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Moreover most of the comparable skylines are evolving faster and going to upper level.
Most comparable skylines growing faster? There is a building boom in Warsaw at the moment and Milan is doing it well, but Milan isn't comparable to Rotterdam at the moment.
In don't forget London, but that is allready way out of Rotterdams League.
We can feel the economic crisis here in Rotterdam, but besides that they are still building some High Rises at the moment (De Rotterdam - 3x150 meters, 100 Hoog - 105 meters and First - 130 meters).
There still other plans. Perhaps in 2 or 3 years they will start with them. Some projects over 150 meters. Like The Peter Stuyvesant - 185 meters, Zalmhaventoren - 215 meters, Havanna - 150/170 meters. Don't no about the Centraal District, there were plans for a couple Buildings. Some around 160 meters and 2x200+ buildings.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 11:54 AM   #444
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I like Rotterdam more without De Rotterdam
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:24 PM   #445
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I find De Rotterdam a unique Building. It is one of a kind. You have to see it in real perhaps to get just excited about it as I am.
By the way it fills the gap between KPN tower and the Cruise Terminal perfectly!

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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #446
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It looks just oversized. It spoils a bit the nice New Orleans, which is the best tower in Rotterdam imo.

Anyways, I can't really compare Rotterdam with cities like Warsaw or Milan. Rotterdam is a dock city, a bit like Hamburg. You get that kind of feeling, water is part of the panorama.

It looks great, and it is a different concept than Milan or Warsaw. Try to imagine New York without waterfront...a completely different thing.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #447
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SASH, as I wrote, the problem of Milan's skyline is that it is "in progress", that is a good thing for the future but a limit for the present, which is normal for a city that is evolving so fast. The skyline of Rotterdam doesn't have those disturbing "holes" that Milan has, but if we make a zoom on parts of the skyline I think that the level of Milan's projects is much superior. Rotterdam gives me the feeling of a sort of "backgroud" skyline, it would be perfect with couple of iconic tall
buildings which capture the attention of the viewer. Maybe we need to mix Malmo with Rotterdam, or maybe we need to move the City Life project from Milan to Rotterdam..in this case we would have probabily the best European Skyline

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Old January 9th, 2013, 01:53 PM   #448
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #449
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1-3 London, Paris, Moscow
4 Frankfurt
5-6 Roterdam, Warsaw
7-8 Milan, Istanbul
9 Madrid
10-12 Hague, Ekaterinburg, Kiev
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #450
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Canary Wharf is Superb!
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #451
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Lyon, Sarajevo??? Never heard they can boast any decent skyline. Could you provide some panoramas to convince us? ))
Well Lyon has a poor skyline, but a 200m tower is under construction and a 220m tower is in project.
The skyline is still very poor (even though we see the alps )

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Old January 9th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #452
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The last pic of London just killed me - an absolutely stunning shot. I preferred Warsaw to London in advance yet I'm unyielding as to Frankfurt and Rotterdam's positions. As to London, the City is great but what about Canary Wharf? A simple mediocrity, you take any of the US downtowns and you have Canary - there's nothing unique, interesting or spectacular about this clot. It's too cliche to be on top spot.
Canary Wharf is a growing "Urban Sprawl" that is dictated by clever, sophisticated yet simple design's. Alot of major world cities such as Toronto, LA and Tokyo began there skylines in exactly the same manner than over time once the base is developed that's when changes in style are incorporated.

Canary Wharf IMO has the biggest potential in the whole of Europe and is already in my top 5.





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Old January 9th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #453
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Old January 9th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #454
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I not trying to bash Warsaws Skyline. I really like it, but from a distance you can clearly see it misses a lot of Buildings around 90 and 120 meters to fill the Skyline up. It's not compact/dense enough.
From certain angles it really looks massive, but I less like the distance shots of Warsaw.
It is the opposite of the Rotterdams Skyline. Which looks more impressive from a distance.

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Old January 9th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #455
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Old January 9th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #456
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Old January 9th, 2013, 07:18 PM   #457
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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #458
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Rotterdam is pretty nice, but cities like Warsaw and Milan are growing much faster. In 10 yers, or even less, i think that Warsaw will take Frankfurts place in the top 4.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:58 AM   #459
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Old January 10th, 2013, 10:51 AM   #460
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Currently the Cosmopolitan Twarda is a significant addition for a skyline like warsaw - visible from many angles, sticking out. Now look how less simular tall buildings like Cape Diem or even higher buildings like T-185 change the skylines of Paris and Frankfurt
People always forget that, when they make prognosis. Secondly they only see what in their fav city is going on totally forget about the others develeopments
At current grow rate, planned buildings and (important) placement of buildings Warsaw will probably not enter the top 4.

For myseld I think Paris, FFM, Moscow and London are equal to each other. They all are totally different concepts/Classes of skylines and each of them is with out any doubt number one in their class. Here its only a question which concept you like most. London with several high class glass clusters, Paris with its dense american style, FFM and its spread of colerfull claddings, or Moscow with is combination of a supertall cluster and spreaded commi-architecture. I can only repeat, thats makes europe unique and more interesting than the other regions of the world for me.

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