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Old December 30th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #5281
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:47 AM   #5282
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Old December 31st, 2013, 05:30 AM   #5283
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Since I have to agree completely. It is a joke to denote London as the largest skyline.

By the way, moscow is the largest city in Europe, not London.
London is bigger than Moscow .
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Old December 31st, 2013, 05:35 AM   #5284
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London is the largest/biggest city on the continent of Europe ..

It may not have the most aesthetic skyline ..

But it's the biggest ...
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Old December 31st, 2013, 10:08 AM   #5285
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London is bigger than Moscow .
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Old December 31st, 2013, 11:28 AM   #5286
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For what I see in these pictures, only four skylines really exists :

Paris / Frankfurt / Istanbul / Moscow
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Old December 31st, 2013, 11:55 AM   #5287
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Actually, what it the current official population of Moscow and Moscow Larger Urban Zone (if such term exists for Moscow or equivalent)

London 2012 data by Eurostat currently stands at 13,614,409. I believe in 2013 it should be pretty much close to 14 mln,

http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...naggr3&lang=en
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:14 PM   #5288
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Actually, what it the current official population of Moscow and Moscow Larger Urban Zone (if such term exists for Moscow or equivalent)

London 2012 data by Eurostat currently stands at 13,614,409. I believe in 2013 it should be pretty much close to 14 mln,

http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...naggr3&lang=en

Moscow - from 14.7 to 17.3 million(with illegal immigrants more than 20 million) 2010
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%...81%D0%B8%D0%B8
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:27 PM   #5289
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Moscow - from 14.7 to 17.3 million(with illegal immigrants more than 20 million) 2010
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%...81%D0%B8%D0%B8
Thanks. I was hoping for something more official but nevermind. I have a quick read. An interesting calculation methods as it just simply adds all population around the city without such consideration if the actual surrounding towns are properly linked to the main city: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%...86%D0%B8%D1%8F

If you apply the same methodology to London you will get figure of 18,868,800 in 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_commuter_belt

And this is just surrounding counties not 70 km radius as it was used for Moscow.

I don't think it would be wise to count illegal immigrants either as figures vary dramatically.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:33 PM   #5290
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London City Proper: 8,308,369 inh. (2012)
Moscow City Proper: 11,794,282 inh. (2013)

London Metropolitan Area: 14 million inh. (2013)
Moscow Metropolitan Area: 17-19 million inh. (2013)
According to Wikipedia.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:40 PM   #5291
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According to Wikipedia.
Thanks. The only thing is that my professor at university told me is not to cite wiki or either trust it. Hence my original source of information was Eurostat which is used by all EU member states. Pity they don't provide information for Istanbul and statistical department in Russia don't have data for metro areas. I would probably just go with city propers in case of London and Moscow.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 02:03 PM   #5292
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Thanks. The only thing is that my professor at university told me is not to cite wiki or either trust it. Hence my original source of information was Eurostat which is used by all EU member states. Pity they don't provide information for Istanbul and statistical department in Russia don't have data for metro areas. I would probably just go with city propers in case of London and Moscow.
There is a man in russian section who is working on PhD in the area:
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У меня в аспирантуре (МИИГАиК, картография) тема научных разработок - моделирование административного деления России. В том числе и с точки зрения гравитационно-демографической модели, так что карту в ближайшие 2 года точно составлю. А вполне возможно, что и в ближайшие месяцы, плюс подробная карта размещения и размеров агломераций и метрополитенских ареалов.
He has a couple of posts about different principles to count: 1, 2.

About Moscow Metro Area: 1, 2 - the second post with list of counties, included in that MMA.

Citing part of the first post:
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JaguarYaguarete, Почитайте на соседнем форуме 93-100 страницы, мы там обсуждали. a.e.r. делал картинку:

http://forum.nashtransport.ru/upload...2969_45642.jpg

Черным обведены границы метрополисов (по его мнению). Я бы добавил кое-где:

... ... ...

Площадь Московского метрополиса - 18 тыс.кв.км, население 17 млн.чел. Площадь комбинированного в районе 45 тыс. (соизмерим с областью), население 20 млн. - это если официально.


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Итак, население Moscow Metro Area - 16,77 млн. чел. (2012).

Площадь - около 17,1 км².
Плотность населения - около 980 чел./км².
Средний радиус - около 74 км.

Граница, наложенная на карту муниципальных образований:
http://sevabashirov.ucoz.ru/Moscow_Metro_Area.jpg
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Edited: his livejournal post about Moscow Metro Area.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 04:12 PM   #5293
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Average height of the best skylines in Europe

I have add the individual heights of 30 tallest skyscrapers (finished or topped out) in a city together and share them by 30, the total number of skyscrapers (150m of Moscow).


1. Moscow (6135m/30) = 204,5m
2. Istanbul (4958m/30) = 165m
3. London (4823m/30) = 161m
4. Paris (4689m/30) = 156m
5. Frankfurt (4601m/30) = 153m
6. Warsaw (3590m/30) = 120m
7. Rotterdam(3401m/30) = 113m
8. Milan (2926m/30) = 98m


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Sorry, I have miscalculated.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 08:04 PM   #5295
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London is the largest/biggest city on the continent of Europe ..
Being the capital of the country which has been striving so hard for centuries to not be associated with that "barbaric and warmongering continent of Europe" and as such kept telling us that it's an Island, trying to ignore the political activities in the rest of the European Union of which it is part but likes to hide that fact, and in general pretending it's an isle in the middle of the Atlantic, I found hard to accept and believe the idea that London is the largest city on the continent of Europe, while it's located on a "bloody Island" and its contestants are in fact located on that very continent itself: Paris, Moscow and Istanbul.

But I digress, this topic is supposed to focus around European skylines. So let's turn to KlausDiggy's excellent post!

To contribute: same method used for Brussels: 102,2m
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Old December 31st, 2013, 08:53 PM   #5296
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Benidorm =117m
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Old December 31st, 2013, 09:26 PM   #5297
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Vienna=108,5m
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Old December 31st, 2013, 09:43 PM   #5298
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Old January 1st, 2014, 12:42 AM   #5300
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And because we're discussing about skylines... the last one.
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