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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #161
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So, neo-gothic and gothic revival is not welcome in this thread?
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I don't see why not. They're pretty much the same, just different time periods.
That's it, they're from a different period of time. Neo-Gothic architecture is mainly from the 19th century.

Do you regard neoclassical buldings as examples of Greek or Roman architecture?


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It's only the extreme purists making a fuss about it, as if there's so much difference at all. The main difference is that newer gothic buildings can be used for more than just churches.

Also, since there's no thread for so-called "gothic revival" buildings I don't see any reason to not post them here. It's an architecture thread, not a history thread.
We've had this discussion for several times. If you're so keen on Gothic Revival architecture, and that's fine by me, why don't open a Gothic Revival thread?
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:50 PM   #162
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I don't really know that much about neoclassical architecture, though I do know plenty about the history of the two empires, so I'd probably consider it Greek.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:57 PM   #163
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@Sandstein I wouldn't. It would be redundant. Or, just imagine the outrage if someone mixed up the two...

There's a difference between being built by the Romans and Romanesque. Architectural naming comes from traits present from the styles of the original builders, it doesn't have to be limited to buildings by the original builders themselves.

You could have called the thread 'Medieval Gothic Architecture' if you want the buildings built by the Goths (although most buildings in this style were not built by them, adding further reason to describe 'Gothic' as a building style, not as credit to a group of people)
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Old June 18th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #164
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@Sandstein I wouldn't. It would be redundant.
I don't think so.


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You could have called the thread 'Medieval Gothic Architecture' if you want the buildings built by the Goths (although most buildings in this style were not built by them, adding further reason to describe 'Gothic' as a building style, not as credit to a group of people)
I made the topic of this thread quite clear at the beginning:

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Gothic architecture is one of the main European architectural styles. It originated in the "Île-de-France" in the 12th century and quickly spreaded across Europe. Finally, it was replaced by Renaissance architecture in the 16th century.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 12:51 AM   #165
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WARNING: This is 'neo-gothic.'

St. Patrick's Cathedral, NYC


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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:23 AM   #166
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and this is Gothic. Sure there's no difference?

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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:56 AM   #167
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there is a big difference between Neo-Gothic and Gothic STYLES. Buildings like St. Patricks Cathedral that adhere strictly to the traditional medieval Gothic style are little different than their predecessors beyond the times they were built in and their structural innovations such as cast iron and steel that are kept from sight anyway.

Neo-Gothic buildings can vary wildly from traditional Gothic design and encompass everything from radios to skyscrapers. For these buildings, I would encourage a separate thread in Architecture.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 02:13 AM   #168
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and this is Gothic. Sure there's no difference?
Bit more ornament in the arches, and wider.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 02:49 AM   #169
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What you see is just one thing. The ideology is totally different, that is why you cannot put equal sign between those two styles.
I'm against posting neo-gothic here.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:28 AM   #170
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Nidaros cathedral, Trondheim, Norway. Constructed between 1070 and 1300. It was restored in the 19th century.

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This cathedral is stunning.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:36 AM   #171
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Gentlemen - I have just opened a thread on Neo-Gothic Architecture.

Perhaps some of you would like to add some of your favorite examples.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:20 PM   #172
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Gentlemen - I have just opened a thread on Neo-Gothic Architecture.
Thanks!

So, can someone move the Neo-Gothic buildings from this thred to the new one?
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #173
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Ok, I moved my post to "neo-gothic" out of here
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #174
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This cathedral is stunning.
I hope you don't mind we posted a few more details picture of it then (I didn't want to fill the whole previous page with them, but at the same time these old gothic churches are so detailed that they deserve many pictures to showcase them self with imho):

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How much of Nidarosdomen's western facade is Gothic revival and how much is original?
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How much of Nidarosdomen's western facade is Gothic revival and how much is original?
A lot of it was lost due to lack of maintaineance and damages through the years, so the majority of the western facade was rebuilt in the 19th century. However I'm not sure I would call it "gothic revival" as they tried their best to keep it how it was intended with using old text, drawings (the few they had) and input from international experts on the field.

The majority of the pictures I just posted aren't from the west front though.
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I hope you don't mind we posted a few more details picture of it then (I didn't want to fill the whole previous page with them, but at the same time these old gothic churches are so detailed that they deserve many pictures to showcase them self with imho):
I agree - church architecture is my favorite topic in architecture. I have never seen a Gothic cathedral on this scale from Norway. And with the Gothic cathedrals the details are as important as the whole structure.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 04:48 PM   #178
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"The most beautiful tower of christianity", Freiburger Münster.

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I agree - church architecture is my favorite topic in architecture. I have never seen a Gothic cathedral on this scale from Norway. And with the Gothic cathedrals the details are as important as the whole structure.
Not very surprising. We only really have two "proper" gothic cathedrals; The one above and the rather modest Stavanger Cathedral. We also have a few churches with some minor gothic features and some gothic extensions to our fortresses (one of which I have already posted), but otherwise it is very little gothic to speak of in this country.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 06:52 AM   #180
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Not very surprising. We only really have two "proper" gothic cathedrals; The one above and the rather modest Stavanger Cathedral. We also have a few churches with some minor gothic features and some gothic extensions to our fortresses (one of which I have already posted), but otherwise it is very little gothic to speak of in this country.
I do also like Norway's unique Stave church architecture. Charming and fascinating.
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