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Persian King of Kings
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Do Iranian people support a foreign invasion to Iran?!
Unfortunately no one here thinks about the consequences of this possible invasion, they just hate this regime and it is very difficult for them to live in the current situation, most of the people have lost their jobs, the level of insecurity is very high in the country (just look at the recent news, like this one), high inflation and shortages have made numerous problems, ...
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Sorry but, the consequences are 99.95% negative.
The US doesn't care about iranians. US doesn't care about democracy in the middle east... They will just blow everything up, destroy infrastructure, allow many to be killed and then leave the country in a dire dire mess. If things are bad now, how bad will it be for 15 years after all the destruction. Afghanistan and Iraq are paradises now aren't they? What a stupid thread to be honest... Oh and once the US has toppled the regime, disbanded IRGC, destroyed all the defensive capabilities of the country, they're just going to allow a nationalist, democrat come into power and let iran pursue its own path? you gotta be delusional to think that... they will end up picking a dodgy group and put their support behind them, someone they can control, e.g MEK or a similar group. You can't let the americans handle it because americans are idiots, they think in the short term. they don't think about what happens in 5, 10 years. I don't know what the americans should do, maybe take some pages out of the eastern europe book? heavily support liberals and promote liberal values with technology and communication but negotiate with the regime to a certain extent, you need to allow conditions of openness to develop in the country. i know your type don't like the whole "reformism" thing. But think about what happened in 2009, mousavi wasn't the important thing. the important thing was that 4 weeks of openness , look at what a powerful civil movement that created... all it needed was a couple weeks of hopeful and open atmosphere... Last edited by SinaK; December 7th, 2012 at 02:17 PM. |
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I don't know one iranian inside or outside iran that supports a US invasion . I would never support such actions that would leave Iran in ruins I think
reforms would be the best in the long run. Why and how did this idea enter your mind to make a title like this??? Very misleading title for a thread ... Last edited by Irandoost; December 7th, 2012 at 02:52 PM. |
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I myself hope no one attacks Iran but let's be honest, I have travelled to Kurdistan of Iraq two times in the recent years, Erbil has really become a paradise.
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LOL at your comment Cyrus!!!!!
Iraq post-war is NOT a model for Iran AT ALL . There is massive chaos there and the country is about to fall into pieces... It's been almost 10 years after the invasion and just last week there was gonna be another massive civil war... NOT to mention daily suicide and bomb attacks.. and don't make a racist comment and say oh they are Arabs or Kurds..., Iranians are different. Almost all Iraq's chaos is imported from other places. The vultures in the south of Iran will not let Iran thrive at ALL after an Invasion. Development infrastructure will be set back 10-20 years. BTW US invasion of Iraq has claimed the lives of around 1 million people!!! I guess nice shops and malls in Erbil makes it totally worth it, doesn't it? Oh wait we already have really nice shops in Iran....we just can't afford to buy anything in these shops.lol Last edited by Irandoost; December 7th, 2012 at 02:53 PM. |
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The fact is that iran goes the same way that iraq went some years ago, first paralyzing sanctions and then an invasion, the western countries know their work, these sanctions separate the people from the government easily, you can stay and see that these people who already live miserably in Iran, will support the government, if the western countries attack Iran, or not.
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Highly doubt Iranians would ever support such actions. like I said I don't know one iranian that supports a military action on Iran. Maybe MEK people. but not ordinary iranians. I think Iran is vastly different than Iraq, Iran can become self-suffient if they play their cards right, and stay focus. Hopefully at least they will allow medical supplies to reach the sick people. I would think you would have more sympathy for this cause since your father died b.c of these sanctions.
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Irandoost, I think you don't live in Iran, everyone I know here talk about these things.
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I haved lived the vast majority of life in iran and all my family lives in Iran. I'm in contact with them almost daily. Not to mention facebook, and emails
with my friends and former classmates. NO ONE i know has ever supported military intervention by the USA in Iran. It seems odd. Infact most of them didn't want Romney to win, since it was almost guaranteed he would attack Iran. I have brought up this topic with them many times, for the past 10 years of my life and the idea of a military intervention frightens me, them and everyone I know. Sounds like a really really bad plan, specially how things are going in Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya.......sounds horrible,unpredictable, genocidal, suicidal.... I can't even bear thinking about bombs dropping on my city. Sounds like my worse nightmare. Last edited by Irandoost; December 7th, 2012 at 04:30 PM. |
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Cyrus!
Could you please let us know what is going there in Iran. When I contact to my friends and family, every body hate ISLAMIC REPUBLIC. But my family say what we can do? They will kiss us if we protest! ![]() But my family are not in Tehran. I think every thing happen only in Tehran. I think we should support this "Shoraye Melli" and need a spoke-man like Reza Pahlavi (some one who world leaders know) or some one equivalent of Reza Pahlavi. We definitely need foreign help but even every short attack should be with permission of Iranian (in this case, Shoraye Melli) and only to Basiji Paygah and Sepah Paygahs and IRIBs and not to Oil refineries, roads, or infrastructures. So, my questions are: 1. What people think there in Tehran? Are they ready to protest? (I can not understand why there is no big protest in Iran?). 2. Do people follow the politics (not discussing on taxis about Majles decisions or presidency elections and ayatollahs on friday prayers), real politics, the oppositions news? Reading articles and Balatarin these kind of stuff? 3. Do people follow e.g. Shoraye Melli, Reza Pahlavi, and other political news? (I mean do they hear from them in news? because I talked with a friend from Tabriz he said, here people do not care about Reza pahlavi and ... people are against government but all suffer from hunger. |
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dangerous thread. Please remain respectful
![]() btw, I don't support military action for personal reasons, but I've seen people who can't wait for it.
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@ FreddyB
![]() Isn't Shoraye Melli MKO people? oh gosh I think I'm gonna throw up... Last edited by Irandoost; December 7th, 2012 at 05:31 PM. |
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Ahura_Mazda, in the current situation people just talk about two major things, the first one is their economic problems (such as inflation and expensiveness) and the second one is insecurity and public crimes, as I remember the situation was so much better than today during Iran-Iraq eight-year war.
As you mentioned, People know well about the cruelty of the regime, so I doubt except some extremists, the majority of them think about public protest, but they certainly wish to get rid of this situation, I think most of them prefer a foreign intervention.
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FreddyB, the fact is that those who support a military attack in Iran can be the first victims of this attack, so that someone who jumps out of a burning apartment to save life can be among the first ones who dies.
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The idiots who can't wait for a foreign intervention are the same idiots who were able to avoid any of the day to day struggle during the Iran-Iraq war.
Very simple-minded, one thought type people. |
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WHO are these people, They got NO heart.
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I don't think generalizing in any way is correct. the friends I know who support it are not MKO. Infact, I don't think MKO is popular.
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lol MKO is done, long gone
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